Popular Post webfact Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 By Subhabhong Rarueysong BANGKOK (NNT) - Thailand’s Centre of Excellence in Clinical Virology, at the Faculty of Medicine of Chulalongkorn University, reports that a vaccine cocktail of Sinovac and AstraZeneca is highly effective. The centre’s head, Dr. Yong Poovorawan, said two doses of inactivated virus vaccine help immunity rise to an average level of 100 units. If two doses of the vector vaccine are given 10 weeks apart, the immune system will rise to 900 units. If the vaccines are alternated, inactivated virus followed by the vector virus type at 3-4 weeks intervals, the recipient achieved a high immunity of 700 units. However, two doses of the inactivated virus vaccine, followed by the virus vector vaccine, as front-line medical personnel are now doing, has been found to provide an average immunity boost of 10,000 units. Dr. Yong added that the center is currently conducting in-depth research into its ability to block each variant of the virus, including Delta. From past data, the Delta strain evades immunity and higher levels of immunity are needed, until a vaccine that addresses the specific strain or second-generation vaccines are available. -- © Copyright NNT 2021-07-26 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 So where is this study? Can he give us a link to the statistical side of the study showing the number of those vaccinated with both the Sinovac and Az vaccine. Was this done using animals, or in Humans. Are they following those people and checking on them daily, are they filling out an online form to show basic functions such as fever and symptoms they might have, or following them to see what side effects they may be having after the mixture. Are the stats he stated from his own views and research in a controlled environment, if so these must just be in the early stages and is his conjecture based upon a Hypothesis. Where has this been peer reviewed. Trying to see how and where he obtained this information from if they just started mixing the doses and giving them to individuals a little over two weeks ago. 8 minutes ago, webfact said: two doses of inactivated virus vaccine help immunity rise to an average level of 100 units. If two doses of the vector vaccine are given 10 weeks apart, the immune system will rise to 900 units. If the vaccines are alternated, inactivated virus followed by the vector virus type at 3-4 weeks intervals, the recipient achieved a high immunity of 700 units. 12 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 This guy's like the lass at the bar who will tell you whatever you want to hear, for a small fee. Honestly, IMO, he should keep quiet. Every other day he comes out with a pronouncement, which often contradicts yesterday's announcement. The public is already confused, Stop already. And it's not like they have an unlimited choice of cocktails. Most take what they're given. So what's the point? I know, the point is he likes hear himself speak. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobinBKK Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 Thai research... 5555555555555 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zhounan Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) By now we have reached absurd levels of madness. Anything that comes out of the mouth of this Big Pharma testimonial should be ignored. Edited July 26, 2021 by zhounan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saltire Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 I want to know what make and model of car he drives? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKTRAVELER Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I think he is now working with TAT and their magical calculator. Soon, they'll have trillions of units of immunity. All joking aside, I hope he is right and that the study is sound. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, BobinBKK said: Thai research... 5555555555555 Funny. Lots of people who were happy to repeat earlier Thai research about the 40 day antibody half life after being vaccinated with Sinovac. But when the results of Thai research don't please them, then it's not believable. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SooKee Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) In other news, approval is being sought to conduct research into the survival rates of people who fall or jump from tall buildings to see whether death or serious injury can be avoided merely by closing the eyes. The astonishing discovery arises from a prominent Thai specialist viewing a number of video trials presented by the Looney Tunes Corporation, "an organisation that provides regular video briefings and does so in a format that even children can understand" he told us. While the doctor confesses to not understanding 95% of the video content he is confident these trials will be more successful than his last experiment where two idiots subjects agreed to be fired from cannons in order to assess the potential for reductions in journey time, thereby improving road safety. Both test subjects died instantly however. In order to improve the chances of success in the new trials the doctor is particularly seeking individuals having the Thai nickname of Duck, Rabbit or Dog (the Thai name for Coyote not being in common use in Thailand) as survival rates of people with those names in the video briefings appear markedly higher than amongst those with other names. Edited July 26, 2021 by SooKee 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 The problem with this article is that the article claims this is about the effectiveness of the vaccine. In relation to Covid "effectiveness" has meant how well a vaccine actually prevents transmission of the virus or the occurrence of any symptoms in the real world (Efficacy is about the same thing but in clinical trials). So there's no way effectiveness is being measured here. And I doubt that the Dr. Yong Poovorawan made such a claim. This is probably just a misuse of the term by the reporter. "According to Gavi, a partnership between the World Health Organisation, UNICEF, the World Bank and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation which is co-leading the COVAX program to distribute COVID-19 vaccines in developing nations, "efficacy" refers to the degree to which a vaccine prevents disease in controlled circumstances such as a clinical trial, while effectiveness measures real-world results." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-09/coronacheck-vaccine-efficacy-effectiveness-whats-the-difference/100055578 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 publish the results - simple 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, Saltire said: I want to know what make and model of car he drives? he drives/says whatever Prayut and Anutin tell too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, webfact said: Dr. Yong Poovorawan, said two doses of inactivated virus vaccine help immunity rise to an average level of 100 units. If two doses of the vector vaccine are given 10 weeks apart, the immune system will rise to 900 units. If the vaccines are alternated, inactivated virus followed by the vector virus type at 3-4 weeks intervals, the recipient achieved a high immunity of 700 units. And the ramstein is connected to the mahexagorgon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fondue zoo Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 They do appear committed to ensuring the continued use of Sinovac. But any results need to be peer reviewed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Also the headline is invalid. The results neither vindicate the combination nor discredit it. Human trials are needed for that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Well I'm sure him and his loved ones will be taking a cocktail then? What's that Doctor Yong? You're all already double jabbed with the best vaccines available months ago? Oh I see, this advice is just for the serfs... Gotcha... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post realfunster Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, placeholder said: Funny. Lots of people who were happy to repeat earlier Thai research about the 40 day antibody half life after being vaccinated with Sinovac. But when the results of Thai research don't please them, then it's not believable. I am not one of the ‘lots of people’ you mention, for anything of importance in this country, I will always try to get a 2nd opinion, where possible, an international opinion. There is a reason Thailand is a developing country and it is not because they have world class scientists (or any other professions for that matter) dotted around freely. You may have seen the “questionable” VITT (blood clot)/AZ results published the other day. It is a modern day miracle that Thailand had a strike rate of 1 in 5m vs other countries of between 1 in 125k-1m. So Thailand is in the range of 5x to 40x ‘better’. So shall we praise the lord…or maybe consider that the balance of probabilities are that it was just an ineptly and incorrectly executed piece of research ? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 So an average Joe like me who is not a doctor or a scientist could easily understand(wrongly of course)that the Sinovac vaccine drags down the effectiveness of the AZ? One way of looking at it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, smedly said: he drives/says whatever Prayut and Anutin tell too So when he published results that showed a half life of 40 days for antibodies created in response to Sinovac, he was doing what he was told? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 53 minutes ago, realfunster said: I am not one of the ‘lots of people’ you mention, for anything of importance in this country, I will always try to get a 2nd opinion, where possible, an international opinion. There is a reason Thailand is a developing country and it is not because they have world class scientists (or any other professions for that matter) dotted around freely. You may have seen the “questionable” VITT (blood clot)/AZ results published the other day. It is a modern day miracle that Thailand had a strike rate of 1 in 5m vs other countries of between 1 in 125k-1m. So Thailand is in the range of 5x to 40x ‘better’. So shall we praise the lord…or maybe consider that the balance of probabilities are that it was just an ineptly and incorrectly executed piece of research ? You're confusing experimentation with gathering of statistics. And what do you actually know about scientific research in Thailand? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Bob Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 But is it more effective then two shots of AZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, Mango Bob said: But is it more effective then two shots of AZ? Good thing Thailand has enough AZ so that this research can remain merely experimental...oh wait a minute... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Saltire said: I want to know what make and model of car he drives? Here it is............... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choff56 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Yes, “that’s the ticket”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: So where is this study? Can he give us a link to the statistical side of the study showing the number of those vaccinated with both the Sinovac and Az vaccine. Was this done using animals, or in Humans. Are they following those people and checking on them daily, are they filling out an online form to show basic functions such as fever and symptoms they might have, or following them to see what side effects they may be having after the mixture. Are the stats he stated from his own views and research in a controlled environment, if so these must just be in the early stages and is his conjecture based upon a Hypothesis. Where has this been peer reviewed. Trying to see how and where he obtained this information from if they just started mixing the doses and giving them to individuals a little over two weeks ago. He'll be along with a facebook post shortly 55555 Thats the only time I've read Thai studies, around 300 words of claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jerrymahoney Posted July 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, jvs said: So an average Joe like me who is not a doctor or a scientist could easily understand(wrongly of course)that the Sinovac vaccine drags down the effectiveness of the AZ? One way of looking at it. Here is another https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003742 : Edited July 26, 2021 by jerrymahoney 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XJPSX Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 We are currently living the largest ever clinical trial of drugs that have not had long term effects determined. In this case humans are the lab rats. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Mango Bob said: But is it more effective then two shots of AZ? No of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftpjtm Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 11 hours ago, webfact said: Thai Research I'm assuming this is the name of research that isn't peer reviewed and is not published in medical journals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soikhaonoiken Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) Don't you mean the AZ vaccine is very effective..... Edited July 26, 2021 by Soikhaonoiken Wrong spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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