With correct math, one plus one equals everything and two minus one equals nothing.

2 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

Sorry, what is a serosurvey ? Never heard of it, would be grateful for an update from????????????????

Serology tests look for antibodies in blood. If antibodies are found, that means there has been a previous infection. Antibodies are proteins that can fight off infections. Investigations using serology testing are called seroprevalence surveys.

 

Not to be confused with a zerosurvey where they don't bother testing.

14 hours ago, gk10012001 said:

Flue experts estimate that in severe years, 5 to20 % of a population get the flu.  Again, just estimates because they do not test every body that had flu symptoms or of course the entire population.   10 % for a guess would mean maybe 6 million Thais may have had, have or will get the COVID, with or without symptoms?

Well, it is true that everyone will eventually be exposed to this virus, just like most of the rhino or corona viruses. Nothing unusual about that. Typical "influenza vaccines" have in the 30 - 40% range of efficacy. The other important points are, cases are not deaths, and as data from all over the world indicates, that death rate is low, unless you are at risk from other health factors. Logically, inoculating those 'at highest risk' first, and then descending in importance, would likely avoided many of the deaths. Most young, healthy people are not even suffering severe symptoms, mush less dying.  The level of panic and economic disaster seem more devastating, and out of proportion to the lowest death rate of any "pandemic" I.ve ever read about.  I'm certainly not saying that this particular virus is not dangerous, but it bothers me that "cases" are treated as deaths, and the math is ignored. Over the course of my 73 years, I've had the "flu" 2 times and recovered without hospitalization. I'm pretty sure I've already had this "virus', since the only way to be sure is going by WHO published symptoms. About 1 week or less, no hospitalization. I have friends in other countries that had similar experiences. One long-time friend was tested in Japan about two weeks ago; his doctor said "you have adequate covid antibodies to fight the disease."  My friend had not been sick for the last 2 years and had to be specifically tested for work.  The reason I relate what I know is anecdotal, is that these (IMO) are personal experiences and for me they are more "real" than the "level" of panic that has not changed the course of this virus.  

16 hours ago, ukrules said:

Of course it is, the positive tests are a reflection of the number of tests done.

 

The more you test the more you find.

 

India has done 3 national serosurveys so far, I don't remember reading about them doing these in Thailand, not yet anyway - which is kind of alarming.

 

Why would Thailand skip an essential step in measuring the extent of disease spread?

No money (in it)!

1 hour ago, pizzachang said:

Well, it is true that everyone will eventually be exposed to this virus, just like most of the rhino or corona viruses. Nothing unusual about that. Typical "influenza vaccines" have in the 30 - 40% range of efficacy. The other important points are, cases are not deaths, and as data from all over the world indicates, that death rate is low, unless you are at risk from other health factors. Logically, inoculating those 'at highest risk' first, and then descending in importance, would likely avoided many of the deaths. Most young, healthy people are not even suffering severe symptoms, mush less dying.  The level of panic and economic disaster seem more devastating, and out of proportion to the lowest death rate of any "pandemic" I.ve ever read about.  I'm certainly not saying that this particular virus is not dangerous, but it bothers me that "cases" are treated as deaths, and the math is ignored. Over the course of my 73 years, I've had the "flu" 2 times and recovered without hospitalization. I'm pretty sure I've already had this "virus', since the only way to be sure is going by WHO published symptoms. About 1 week or less, no hospitalization. I have friends in other countries that had similar experiences. One long-time friend was tested in Japan about two weeks ago; his doctor said "you have adequate covid antibodies to fight the disease."  My friend had not been sick for the last 2 years and had to be specifically tested for work.  The reason I relate what I know is anecdotal, is that these (IMO) are personal experiences and for me they are more "real" than the "level" of panic that has not changed the course of this virus.  

The Delta variant has changed everything.

 

40 Texas children newly hospitalized with COVID per day, the highest rate in a year

17 hours ago, ukrules said:

Why would Thailand skip an essential step in measuring the extent of disease spread?

So this government don't lose face and admit they have forked up big time IMHO.

On 8/13/2021 at 2:31 AM, webfact said:

Thailand’s Covid-19 infection numbers are likely much higher than those being reported by the government

Goes without saying. Only those with an agenda and dotty expats who think the place has done infinitely better than their home countries would have you believe otherwise. 

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The Delta variant has changed everything.

 

"A government report from England indicates that the fatality rate for the delta variant there is 0.1%, compared with 1.9% for the original coronavirus. The difference is a factor of 19.

But the agency cautions that it is too soon to make comparisons of the risk of death posed by variants."  Interesting, since it is the agency's own published data that indicates the current risk factor.  Like influenza, it was an expected progression in mutations, to reach a point where children are affected. 

On 8/13/2021 at 8:51 AM, Blumpie said:

I believe everything on the net as long as it fits my narrative.  

So true!  Confirmation bias is rife. Just google what you want to believe!  Not many balanced opinions anymore.