Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) from Johns Hopkins Aug. 13 COVID newsletter: "HERD IMMUNITY IMPOSSIBLE Consensus is forming among public health experts and scientists worldwide: the highly transmissible Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 changed the COVID-19 pandemic, dashing hopes of widespread vaccination creating herd immunity that could protect people from infection and guaranteeing the novel coronavirus will become endemic. While the vaccines are highly effective at preventing serious illness or death, they do not fully protect the vaccinated from infection. Additionally, people who had previous SARS-CoV-2 infections are not necessarily protected from infection from future variants. And because infected people can in turn infect others, whether vaccinated or not, the concept of herd or population immunity with COVID-19 “is not a possibility,” according to experts who recently spoke to the UK’s All-Party Parliamentary Group. However, the vaccines still work, and work well, protecting those fully vaccinated from death and keeping them out of the hospital, and vaccine doses should be urgently distributed to "where they can have the greatest impact," especially to countries in need, Professor Sir Andrew John Pollard, Director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, urged." https://myemail.constantcontact.com/COVID-19-Updates---August-13--2021.html Thailand: only about 7% of the population fully vaccinated thus far, and many of those are with the Sinovac vaccine, which has questionable effectiveness against the Delta variant. Edited August 14, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Yes, but the point is day to day life for most Japanese people has not been significantly harmed due to a lockdown. That's because they haven't had any true lockdowns for the most part, and as a result, their cases are reaching "disaster" levels and they're now considering actual lockdown measures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: from Johns Hopkins Aug. 13 COVID newsletter: "HERD IMMUNITY IMPOSSIBLE Consensus is forming among public health experts and scientists worldwide: the highly transmissible Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 changed the COVID-19 pandemic, dashing hopes of widespread vaccination creating herd immunity that could protect people from infection and guaranteeing the novel coronavirus will become endemic. While the vaccines are highly effective at preventing serious illness or death, they do not fully protect the vaccinated from infection. Additionally, people who had previous SARS-CoV-2 infections are not necessarily protected from infection from future variants. And because infected people can in turn infect others, whether vaccinated or not, the concept of herd or population immunity with COVID-19 “is not a possibility,” according to experts who recently spoke to the UK’s All-Party Parliamentary Group. However, the vaccines still work, and work well, protecting those fully vaccinated from death and keeping them out of the hospital, and vaccine doses should be urgently distributed to "where they can have the greatest impact," especially to countries in need, Professor Sir Andrew John Pollard, Director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, urged." https://myemail.constantcontact.com/COVID-19-Updates---August-13--2021.html Thailand: only about 7% of the population fully vaccinated thus far, and many of those are with the Sinovac vaccine, which has questionable effectiveness against the Delta variant. Exactly what one of the professor's at Oxford university who was involved in the AZ vaccine project said. Herd immunity is probably not attainable now but we can get herd protection, whereby you prevent serious illness and death from it. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 40 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: That's because they haven't had any true lockdowns for the most part, and as a result, their cases are reaching "disaster" levels and they're now considering actual lockdown measures. I doubt the Olympics helped much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 TIMELINE: Pattaya area informs residents who visited places in relation to the most recent Chonburi confirmed Covid –19 cases List of places here: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/08/14/timeline-pattaya-area-informs-residents-who-visited-places-in-relation-to-the-most-recent-chonburi-confirmed-covid-19-cases-2/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted August 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) Siriraj’s field ICU facility to be operational from August 30 The construction of Siriraj Hospital’s field ICU facility for treatment of Covid-19 patients with severe symptoms is expected to be completed on August 28 and the facility can treat patients from August 30, hospital director Dr Wisit Wamwanich said on Saturday. “Siriraj Hospital and two subsidiaries, namely Siriraj Piyamaharajkarun Hospital and Kanchanapisek Medical Centre, decided to build the field ICU facility after the ICU rooms at the three hospitals were quickly occupied by Covid-19 patients due to rising infections,” he said. https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40004661 Edited August 14, 2021 by Bkk Brian 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Did you know, pregnant women infected with COVID-19 have a mortality rate of 1.85% or 2.5 times compared to the general population? The Public Health Ministry recommends to get the first dose of vaccination as soon as possible. Speak to your doctor today. https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1426461472088072193 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Hagler Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, sungod said: So I would assume lots of nurses outside the public system in Thailand too in that case? Again…show the link to support your words…it’s 200,000 Its the reverse here with more nurses in private practice than public…and guess what? Private hospitals are charging a lot for vaccines that many public can’t afford!! In reality Thailand has far less than 200k nurses for this. UK had 100,000,000 vaccines in stock and the best day they could achieve was 500,000 vaccines. And Thailand with lord knows how many vaccines in stock doing 650,000 per day??? Please…spare me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungod Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Marvin Hagler said: Again…show the link to support your words…it’s 200,000 Its the reverse here with more nurses in private practice than public…and guess what? Private hospitals are charging a lot for vaccines that many public can’t afford!! In reality Thailand has far less than 200k nurses for this. UK had 100,000,000 vaccines in stock and the best day they could achieve was 500,000 vaccines. And Thailand with lord knows how many vaccines in stock doing 650,000 per day??? Please…spare me. Just using the figures you provided, 650,000 jabs among the 200,00 (can you send me a link for that number?) is 3.25 each, reckon thats doable. The lady who did mine was retired and came back to help the effort as has been many the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Off topic posts and replies about the NHS in the UK have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted August 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2021 Looks like revised or further restrictions on the way for Phuket Google translate: #Phuket provincial order no. 4627/2564 dated August 14, 2021 measures to screen for travel into Phuket according to the prevention and control measures for Coronavirus Disease 2019 . ???? Effective from 17 - 31 August 2021 https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenter/posts/365896088398907 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Recovered COVID-19 patients must be vaccinated to reduce risk of getting infected again COVID-19 patients, who have recovered from the disease after completing 14-days of treatment or isolation, may get infected again and, therefore, must be vaccinated, said the director-general of Thailand’s Disease Control Department, Dr. Opart Karnkawinpong, today (Saturday). https://www.thaipbsworld.com/recovered-covid-19-patients-must-be-vaccinated-to-reduce-risk-of-getting-infected-again/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: I believe they've literally reached their capacity and have failed to increase it, yes willful neglect. Its not going unnoticed by the rest of the world, even the Swiss donated over a million rapid tests as a hint. You won’t convince the numpty crowd, however, who can’t seem to correlate Thailand’s low numbers with the fact that they just HAVEN’T BEEN TESTING!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey11 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 3 hours ago, sungod said: Just using the figures you provided, 650,000 jabs among the 200,00 (can you send me a link for that number?) is 3.25 each, reckon thats doable. The lady who did mine was retired and came back to help the effort as has been many the case. Exactly same as UK, they recruited thousands of volunteers, retired doctors, nurses, army medics, St John's Ambulance ,etc, as well as many others carrying out roles in administration such as organising the flow of people through the vaccination centres. It is do-able and I believe the UK hit 800k one day if my memory serves me correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Phuket reported last evening, 109 new cases, 0 Sandbox and no further deaths https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenter/posts/365968991724950 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, anchadian said: Phuket reported last evening, 109 new cases, 0 Sandbox and no further deaths https://www.facebook.com/phuketinfocenter/posts/365968991724950 How much testing are they doing and how many more may be positive from an ATK rapid test. Bigger question, Does it matter in the grand scheme of things as far as the Sandbox staying open without further restrictions unlike the rest of the island. Reminds me sort of like someone having an all access backstage pass, rules don't apply. Edited August 14, 2021 by ThailandRyan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 15 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said: Yes, Japan does seem to be handling it better than Thailand, although I guess that's not altogether surprising. Although recent numbers are a concern and lockdowns looking likely. Japan still exhibits far more infections, total, and similar daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbri Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 23 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Update on Saturday: 22,086 new cases (270 from prisons) and 217 deaths. A record 23,672 released from care. Follow @ThaiNewsReports for full details. 12 Aug: 22,782 - 147 dead 13 Aug: 23,418 - 184 dead 14 Aug: 22,086 - 217 dead https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1426345995458154496 Wondering, how are they getting these numbers. How many people are actually being tested to get these numbers? And where? Are people calling in to report their own positive tests? And how many died "with" covid and how many "because of" covid? Numbers are very suspicious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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