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The idea that young people have to risk their health to protect old people is absurd.   Overweight and old people are more prone to get serious covid.   They should get vaxxed and

It isn't just about protecting the children, it is about trying to protect them as well as those around them. Vaccination won't prevent 100% of infections or spread of Covid, but may reduce them. This

Expulsion or denial the further education of your child ?   99,97 survival rate for a child   So why would you allow your child to be forced of taking a product that has unknown ef

 all I see is a paradox... 

 - if No Jab, then No Can Teach them Lesson...

 - but the vindictive nature of the act means they are still seen as teaching the kid a lesson 

 

 

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The situation is really confusing.

 

-all the thai schools are "online" since mid may (start of new year)

 

-all international schools are "online" since end of august (start of new year)... with the exception of Koh Samui.

 

Meanwhile, there is a strange program/test "school sandbox" created apparently for... boarding schools (they can reopen onsite but with many rules : vaccine for everybody, tests every 2 weeks for children etc.)

Source : https://thethaiger.com/news/national/68-schools-to-reopen-as-part-of-sandbox-safety-zone-in-school-programme

 

Meanwhile... local governors have their say.

 

So on a national level, the CCSA might say "school open normally" (for red zone for instance)... but the "local authorities" must visit the school, give their green light... That's a huge problem.

 

I give you one example : the governor of Nakhon Ratchasima closed international schools end of june (a few days before the end of school year)... At that time, the province had 20 cases per day.... Today they still have 200 cases per day...

 

So what will he do ?

 

What's the goalpost for him ? Zero case ? Or more ?

 

Meanwhile, some international schools are looking at the "sandbox programm".... their idea is to push for vaccine : all the staff + all the children... They think it's a way to reopen faster...

 

But would the governor of Nakhon Ratchasima approuve such an idea ?

 

Meanwhile, the education minister hints that the solution is massive vaccination of ALL the children... before any school reopening normally.

Link : https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2171811/4m-students-to-be-inoculated

 

So nothing is clear... Even more confusing than usual (for thai standards).

 

Last but not least... the silence around schools is defeaning... We talk about curfew time, zoning, shoppings malls, restaurants etc.... But nobody is talking about schools.

 

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There isnt any vaccines for under 12.

There talking about Sinopharm and my Wife says no way.  Theres insufficient data for under 12.

 

I understand about the worries about vaccinating children but there worried about them spreading to other people inside the cramped Thai households.

 

Delta is affecting younger children.

 

Very controversial for sure.

 

"With the delta variant, we are seeing an increased number of cases amongst children."

 

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/how-covid-19-delta-variant-is-impacting-younger-people/

 

 

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The problem is that students are in close proximity to others they play together and are involved in activities.  

 

Before the mask mandate was in place and it seemed to work.  The issue of vax is a new one but for Matayom students it makes sense.  

 

The problem with the younger crowd is that they touch things and pass them to another student.  They cough and sneeze and pass that to everyone.  Trying to have Pratom students especially in the younger crowd keep their mask on and wash their hands is insane.

 

Time will tell and we are not 100% sure how or when the schools will be opened but considering the choices that parents have getting your child vaccinated seems to be the smartest thing.  

1 they get out of the house

2. they will actually learn in school 

3. It gives mom dad and grandparents some relax time.

 

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On 9/7/2021 at 9:59 PM, 248900_1469958220 said:

Seems to be old news you have there. Here's the latest:

UK plans to offer Covid vaccines to teens later this year | Financial Times (ft.com)

Looks like they were waiting for Pfizer to complete testing and get approval.
 

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I could Inderstand your concerns.

If we old ones longing for vaccines we don't care about side effects in the future because it will not effect much......probably we'll die before.

However, our kids will have to live with those side effects for the next 70-80 years.

If there aren't any side effects....the better.😐

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Uk is for 15 years and older, primarily with underlying conditions.

None of the western vaccines are preventative for Delta and none to stop transmission. In certain countries and states more than half of hospitalizations are double vaxxed, then what good is it really. No one knows long term side effects! FDA said yes to Pfizer but there is much more to the story.

I do not know what I will do regarding my children when push comes to shove!

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I am not sure whether it's a problem with vaccinations or perhaps with trust in authorities. To me it seems that people generally don't trust, or have less faith, in those who hold positions that were once highly respected. Today everything seems to be a possible tool for political gain. a root for a conspiracy theory and so on. I think too, journalism was also more respected than it is now where today it's 'don't believe what you read in newspapers' etc.

In Thailand, dare I mention those who said early on 'Don't worry there is plenty of vaccine to go around' and similar declarations, when in fact the opposite was true. Such behaviour is bound to result in less confidence.

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1 hour ago, ClaySmc said:

Seems to be old news you have there. Here's the latest:

UK plans to offer Covid vaccines to teens later this year | Financial Times (ft.com)

Looks like they were waiting for Pfizer to complete testing and get approval.
 

And here is even more recent news (note that the article is less than 10 minutes old...)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58423152

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38 minutes ago, mrfill said:

And here is even more recent news (note that the article is less than 10 minutes old...)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58423152

And your article states:

 

For every million Pfizer second doses given to 12-17-year-old-boys, around 60 had the condition

 

She points to a recent US study which suggests that having Covid-19 could be six times more likely to trigger myocarditis in young men than the vaccine, with a rate of about 450 per million infections.

 

And then you can hope they don't get Covid, so then those numbers don't apply. That may be a crapshoot regarding the youngsters; but brings things back to protecting other members of a family or the public. You might not have an extended family living together, but many Thai people do. You have the right not to send your child to school, but do you have the right to put other people at risk??? 

 

Having said that; I don't think it is an easy decision for a parent to make. It may be a bit too early to mandate things, but we live in a society where everyone has to be taken into account. Sometimes that is not too easy.

 

 

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Just for the record all this guys post have been anti vax. Not a single one about an other topic. Looks like one of the anti vax crazies came out of the woodwork just to find topics to prove his views. 

 

Posted in the Pattaya topic too so I doubt this person has kids but just loves to moan and look for something to complain.

 

Though in the case when its about kids a lot of things are unclear so I understand it when people have reservations. 

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7 hours ago, cclub75 said:

Meanwhile, some international schools are looking at the "sandbox programm".... their idea is to push for vaccine : all the staff + all the children... They think it's a way to reopen faster...

The sandbox programme doesn't require the children to be vaccinated (especially since there's no vaccination in place for them anyway) it just requires them to have negative Covid testing.

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2 hours ago, DavidSSaville said:

In certain countries and states more than half of hospitalizations are double vaxxed, then what good is it really.

In a population where everyone has been vaccinated, the only people in hospital with Covid will be the vaccinated. This does not mean that the vaccine is not effective. The issue is how many hospitalizations had been prevented by having the population vaccinated. Vaccines are effective, at least so far.

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2 hours ago, ClaySmc said:

That may be a crapshoot regarding the youngsters; but brings things back to protecting other members of a family or the public. You might not have an extended family living together, but many Thai people do. You have the right not to send your child to school, but do you have the right to put other people at risk???

The article also states that if everyone and their dog gets vaccinated, the virus will still spread.

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