D.E.S. minister pressing ahead with plans to legalize electronic cigarettes in Thailand

[nowhereman]

4 minutes ago, Capt Rob said:

I tend to endorse your smoking solution to  60 stick a day, but like all things in life science will come to bear and it is widely acknowledged that most vape 'fuels' contain contaminants, some proven and some yet to be proven, which are harmful. Unexpectedly in a recent survey of many 'fuels' this included nicotine, six out of a hundred plus. My point here is that there is no safe way to check levels at POS.

Don't worry you'll get your 100 plus in coming burning season. Compared to that vaping is safe as it can get.

[PEE TEE]

1 minute ago, Capt Rob said:

I tend to endorse your smoking solution to  60 stick a day, but like all things in life science will come to bear and it is widely acknowledged that most vape 'fuels' contain contaminants, some proven and some yet to be proven, which are harmful. Unexpectedly in a recent survey of many 'fuels' this included nicotine, six out of a hundred plus. My point here is that there is no safe way to check levels at POS.

yes you are correct however the reports concerning dangers relates to what you vape its is quite a science. A while back in The USA people were buying black market juice containing THC and vitamin e it put  some people in hospital. The they had the report of diastole causing popcorn lung this was dismissed as fake no-one had died from this also they done a survey on popcorn factory's no-one had had popcorn lung as the drug is in abundance there. if the E-juice is conforming to the company's that make it should be no problems. mainly only 5 ingredients.     

[PEE TEE]

15 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Vaping is horrible and though legal in most countries is not allowed indoors or on transport. The stink and the volume of smoke is vile. They are a gateway to tobacco. They are not safe.

OK Is only your opinion .  We all no they are not safe nothing is but it has been proved to be 95% safer than smoking from the royal college of physicians UK. 

[Virt]

1 hour ago, Neilly said:

Get that sorted and vaping will be the best thing sliced bread...but I still don't see how he's going to get past the Thai Tobacco Monopoly ????

Those old dinosaurs could set a good example by moving some of their productions towards vaping liquid/equipment.

 

Vaping seems to be a better alternative and getting the nicotine in liquid form is way better than getting it from cigarettes.

It's still important to say vaping is not safe, but it's less harmful compared to regular cigarettes.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4110871/

 

Currently available evidence indicates that electronic cigarettes are by far a less harmful alternative to smoking and significant health benefits are expected in smokers who switch from tobacco to electronic cigarettes

 

nicotine does not contribute to smoking-related diseases. It is not classified as a carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer [WHO-IARC, 2004] and does not promote obstructive lung disease. A major misconception, commonly supported even by physicians, is that nicotine promotes cardiovascular disease. However, it has been established that nicotine itself has minimal effect in initiating and promoting atherosclerotic heart disease

 

 

 

 

[superal]

If the minister is really concerned he could try to allow nicotine patches , gum and pills  . All 3 are effective at reducing the nicotine craving but not accessible in Thailand , unless you know better .

[vandeventer]

4 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Must have a vested interest somewhere down the line .....

I smoked for over 20 years and I smoked everything even newspapers when I didn't have the money. But what made me stop was my chest x-ray. I carried it around with me and when I wanted a smoke I would look at it first. E-cigarettes are not the answer I had friends that tried then but didn't like them at all.

[nowhereman]

1 hour ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Vaping is horrible and though legal in most countries is not allowed indoors or on transport. The stink and the volume of smoke is vile. They are a gateway to tobacco. They are not safe.

There is no smoke, there is almost no smell and you have no idea what you're talking about.

[nowhereman]

7 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

I smoked for over 20 years and I smoked everything even newspapers when I didn't have the money. But what made me stop was my chest x-ray. I carried it around with me and when I wanted a smoke I would look at it first. E-cigarettes are not the answer I had friends that tried then but didn't like them at all.

You don't have many friend then. Here's something to educate yourself -----> https://ash.org.uk/media-and-news/press-releases-media-and-news/in-2019-around-half-as-many-britons-now-vape-as-smoke-and-the-majority-are-ex-smokers/

[nowhereman]

25 minutes ago, superal said:

If the minister is really concerned he could try to allow nicotine patches , gum and pills  . All 3 are effective at reducing the nicotine craving but not accessible in Thailand , unless you know better .

In Thailand you can legally buy nicotine patches, gums and all kind of pills. By the way non of the helped me to quit smoking but vaping did, instantly.

 

[fvw53]

3 hours ago, alien365 said:

What about biofuel or has this idea died out?

Biofuel got shelved after the financial crash of 2008   ....which made dirty crude oil again cheap

[superal]

10 minutes ago, nowhereman said:

In Thailand you can legally buy nicotine patches, gums and all kind of pills. By the way non of the helped me to quit smoking but vaping did, instantly.

 

Well that is a surprise , where are they for sale cos I never seen them . Are they legit or dodgy ?

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand's Digital Economy and Society minister Chaiwut Thanakamanusorn is pressing ahead with ambitious plans to try and legalize electronic cigarettes in the country, reported Sanook

Legalise it and allow those who wish to partake have some enjoyment.

[taotoo]

11 minutes ago, superal said:

Well that is a surprise , where are they for sale cos I never seen them . Are they legit or dodgy ?

I've bought them from regular chemists lots of times over the years.

[Bangkok Barry]

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

I see people very furtively smoking them for fear of arrest!!

While very furtively supping a beer from a coffee cup for fear of arrest!! Thailand is such an exciting place. Danger (of arrest) everywhere.

[rudi49jr]

You would almost be inclined to think, seeing as how this is Thailand, that this guy has some vested interest in one of these vaping companies and has a lot to gain when it’s legalized.

[nowhereman]

1 hour ago, superal said:

Well that is a surprise , where are they for sale cos I never seen them . Are they legit or dodgy ?

 

Edited October 16, 2021 by nowhereman

[zzaa09]

6 hours ago, Geoffggi said:

Must have a vested interest somewhere down the line .....

Exactly. Must be profitable for one of these insider circles.

[thailand49]

This guy is brought and pay for by the Tobacco people check his bank accounts and assets then remove him from his position! 

[cncltd1973]

8 hours ago, PEE TEE said:

Cigarettes far more harmful secondary smoke harmful smells acrid . Vapor from egigs can be very annoying to others vapers should consider others .some flavors smell nice and is only water vaper not harmful. Vaper is non ignition cigs are makes the difference between smoke and vapor.   My opinion 

Vapers annoy me by how satisfied and slightly smug they look, like blowing bubbles. Not like a real smoker where you can see their contemplation and mortality, damn smoking is still cool

[Kinnock]

11 hours ago, taotoo said:

They are two different - competing - industries.

Not really.  That's like saying cannabis, cocaine and amphetamines are different and competing industries.

 

Different, yes, but complimentary rather than competing, and all catering to addictive personalities.  One can lead to the other, same as vaping and smoking.

[Kinnock]

10 hours ago, Expat68 said:

They should do a survey of non smokers, which is more tollerable. Cigarettes or E-Cigarettes. I know what the result would be

Neither.  Both smell bad and are selfish, anti-social activities for people who need an addiction..

Edited October 16, 2021 by Kinnock

[sezze]

12 hours ago, taotoo said:

Thai farmers grow corn, and corn can be fermented to make vegetable glucosamine, one of the ingredients in e-liquid.

As far as i know the ingredients in e-liquid is

propylene glycol and vegetable glycerine , together with possible nicotine ( not needed ) , and some taste liquids , which can be made out of several substances .

Glucosamine is a solid and might be some component in some of the aroma's , but it will certainly be not in all of them and the concentration of the aromas is low .

[kiwikeith]

On 10/16/2021 at 5:26 PM, Geoffggi said:

Must have a vested interest somewhere down the line .....

It’s behind the smoke screen

[kiwikeith]

On 10/17/2021 at 7:08 AM, Kinnock said:

Neither.  Both smell bad and are selfish, anti-social activities for people who need an addiction..

The smokers I drink with will have none off this,they continue to puff away even though they are supposed to walk away from others in a shop bar