Thailand reports 7,305 new COVID-19 cases, 51 deaths and 7,900 recoveries

[Kadilo]

32 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Not cynics, the realists without the rose tinted glasses and distorting facts. I thought Thailand would be 70% fully vaccinated by December? 

 

I still didn't get a response on how many tests does Thailand do? I suppose that statistic deserves a well done too.

 

 

By December? If you are referring to me, I believe i said by the end of the year but if you have where I posted “by December” then feel free to show me and I will happily accept it  

 

As for the second part. Look for yourself it’s relatively simple, or if you’re struggling ask one of the forum Covid experts we are fortunate to have on here and I’m sure they can assist you. 
 

Once you have the numbers you can post them yourself. It’s a really easy concept whereby you post what you want and others do the same. 
 

You will get used to it. Don’t worry too much. 

Edited November 12, 2021 by Kadilo

[Bkk Brian]

8 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Yeah but at least he can go on his hols to the UK now if he chooses. Every cloud…..

I don't believe he wants to go to the UK, its full of dirty farrangs, he's only off to Switzerland for a WHO meeting

[Bkk Brian]

ooops, so much for relaxing those restrictions then

 

Reopening of bars and nightclubs pushed to mid-January 2022

 

It’s going to be at least two months until you’ll be able to legally drink a beer at a bar in Thailand… The long-awaited reopening of bars and nightlife venues has been pushed to January 15, 2022.  The CCSA held a general meeting chaired by PM Prayut Chan-o-cha today and decided to push back the reopening date for entertainment venues. Alcohol sales at restaurants is now only allowed in areas classified as “blue zones” including Bangkok and Phuket.

 

https://thethaiger.com/?p=431127

[brewsterbudgen]

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

ooops, so much for relaxing those restrictions then

 

Reopening of bars and nightclubs pushed to mid-January 2022

 

It’s going to be at least two months until you’ll be able to legally drink a beer at a bar in Thailand… The long-awaited reopening of bars and nightlife venues has been pushed to January 15, 2022.  The CCSA held a general meeting chaired by PM Prayut Chan-o-cha today and decided to push back the reopening date for entertainment venues. Alcohol sales at restaurants is now only allowed in areas classified as “blue zones” including Bangkok and Phuket.

 

https://thethaiger.com/?p=431127

Crazy.  At least we can have wine with our hotel Christmas buffet lunch but why it can't be extended to places like Pattaya and Hua Hin, I have no idea.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Crazy.  At least we can have wine with our hotel Christmas buffet lunch but why it can't be extended to places like Pattaya and Hua Hin, I have no idea.

And with no financial aid given yet again for all those business owners, staff and dependents

 

[Kadilo]

8 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Crazy.  At least we can have wine with our hotel Christmas buffet lunch but why it can't be extended to places like Pattaya and Hua Hin, I have no idea.

Plenty of time for wriggle room yet. 

Edited November 12, 2021 by Kadilo

[brewsterbudgen]

Just now, Kadilo said:

Plenty of time for wriggle room yet. 

True.  All they need to do is change provinces to 'blue'!  I suspect they'll see what the reaction is like, and then give an early Christmas present to the entertainment industry.

[ThailandRyan]

3 hours ago, Kadilo said:

That’s your perspective. 
 

Clearly everyone’s differ. 
 

Some may take a wider look at the overall number of infections/deaths and compare that to the detrimental effect on people’s lives and livelihoods and decided it’s time to move on. 
 

That’s what the UK did and decided it was time to learn to live with it and give people those lives back. 
 

Seems Thailand is looking to follow suit. 

 

More will be revealed at the upcoming meetings as to whether they will further relax restrictions to allow people to get those lives back on track and boost the economy, or they will continue to restrict it. 
 

The data suggests the former should happen in time for the busy period. 
 

 

Thailand may be looking to move forward, but the rising cases in Areas like Chiang Mai, and others have definitely put a kibosh on the opening of entertainment venues and bars, which many people do travel for as part of their vacation time, and as someone has been saying all along it will be just a matter of time.  Yet it is not happening until possibly 2022 sometime.  Thailand's looking to reduce the entry PCR test to possibly an ATK test would definitely assist in bringing tourists in on the Test N Go scheme.  Hopeful as one can be that the High season will be salvaged it does not look truly promising at this juncture in time.  

 

Bad pressers on the quarantine of Test N Go arrivals has caused a concern for those that would come for only a Two week holiday over the Christmas and New Year period.  I wonder if this New Years will be a dry one like last year with no alcohol being served.  Luckily last year our New Years outing was saved by being refunded half the price in vouchers for the location at Icon Siam.

 

As far as reaching the Milestone of 100 million jabs that will still be shy of the 70% mark of the entire Thai population and includes the booster jabs and even 4th jabs some have gotten, while others who need them like the elderly still have not had the 1st jab given.  

[ThailandRyan]

9 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

True.  All they need to do is change provinces to 'blue'!  I suspect they'll see what the reaction is like, and then give an early Christmas present to the entertainment industry.

Changing the colors will not change the issue of the children younger than 11 still doing on-line classes, which will take it's toll I fear.  Covid has sure created an issue and I have been told that a few of the private schools are going under.  There was an OP running on that last week.

 

14 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Plenty of time for wriggle room yet. 

That is your perspective and friends in the entertainment industry are very concerned that this will be the 2nd year of poor Christmas tidings.

[Kadilo]

33 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

True.  All they need to do is change provinces to 'blue'!  I suspect they'll see what the reaction is like, and then give an early Christmas present to the entertainment industry.

Good thinking. ????

[coolcarer]

3 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Seems Thailand is looking to follow suit. 

 

More will be revealed at the upcoming meetings as to whether they will further relax restrictions to allow people to get those lives back on track and boost the economy, or they will continue to restrict it. 
 

The data suggests the former should happen in time for the busy period. 

CCSA must have a different dataset to you, only took them about an hour to prove you wrong.

[Kadilo]

40 minutes ago, coolcarer said:

CCSA must have a different dataset to you, only took them about an hour to prove you wrong.

You are struggling with the difference between the words  “should” and “will” so nobody proved anybody wrong. 
 

Appreciate you’re trying really hard to be part of the like group, but maybe trying a little too hard. 

 

[coolcarer]

8 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

You are struggling with the difference between the words  “should” and “will” so nobody proved anybody wrong. 
 

Appreciate you’re trying really hard to be part of the like group, but maybe trying a little too hard. 

 

That’s cool coz I didn’t expect you to acknowledge you were wrong that would never do, your post stands as is.

[ThailandRyan]

15 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

You are struggling with the difference between the words  “should” and “will” so nobody proved anybody wrong. 
 

Appreciate you’re trying really hard to be part of the like group, but maybe trying a little too hard. 

 

How wrong you can be. Mid January at the earliest for booze and entertainment venues opening up, and that is still a Wipeout for High Season for the most part as the Christmas and New Years holidays will be finished...but hey maybe by Chinese new years......

[anchadian]

The government announced that starting in December, unvaccinated foreigners will now only receive the free mixed-dose model with one dose of Sinovac, then AstraZeneca as a second dose. Thais in outbreak areas and students will be given two Pfizer jabs. (1/2)

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1459105628824084483

 

Locals in other provinces will have the choice of receiving a first dose of AstraZeneca, then Pfizer for their second dose or two doses of AstraZeneca. 2/2)

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

The government announced that starting in December, unvaccinated foreigners will now only receive the free mixed-dose model with one dose of Sinovac, then AstraZeneca as a second dose. Thais in outbreak areas and students will be given two Pfizer jabs. (1/2)

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1459105628824084483

 

Locals in other provinces will have the choice of receiving a first dose of AstraZeneca, then Pfizer for their second dose or two doses of AstraZeneca. 2/2)

Wow that's a shocker.  I thought they were done with the Sinovac, did they happen to acquire more in light of saying they would not, or did it just arrive under cover of darkness from China with a group of tourists. The Pfizer they have was donated if I remember and they have yet to receive the doses they supposedly bought.  Maybe I am completely wrong with the way I remember this, but I am pretty sure they said they would not purchase anymore Sinovac.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

The government announced that starting in December, unvaccinated foreigners will now only receive the free mixed-dose model with one dose of Sinovac, then AstraZeneca as a second dose. Thais in outbreak areas and students will be given two Pfizer jabs. (1/2)

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiEnquirer/status/1459105628824084483

 

Locals in other provinces will have the choice of receiving a first dose of AstraZeneca, then Pfizer for their second dose or two doses of AstraZeneca. 2/2)

Why the blatant discrimination here? A choice for local Thai's of the more efficient vaccines and no choice for foreigners with the only option the less efficient vaccine as first dose? 

 

I'm pretty sure when the US and UK and any other countries will have a rethink to any further free donations that have not already been committed to based on this inequality and clear xenophobia.

 

Shooting themselves in the foot yet again at a time when Thailand is desperate for foreign tourists and expats to spend money over here.

Edited November 12, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[Laughing Gravy]

5 hours ago, Kadilo said:

By December? If you are referring to me, I believe i said by the end of the year but if you have where I posted “by December” then feel free to show me and I will happily accept it  

 

As for the second part. Look for yourself it’s relatively simple, or if you’re struggling ask one of the forum Covid experts we are fortunate to have on here and I’m sure they can assist you. 
 

Once you have the numbers you can post them yourself. It’s a really easy concept whereby you post what you want and others do the same. 
 

You will get used to it. Don’t worry too much. 

I think I know you now. You must be the PM or his advisor. You talk like him, throw statistics around like him and are as popular on here, as he is in the country.

 

Maybe you should get a job with the TAT. We all could do with the continuing comedy show they produce.

 

I don't worry. However I do feel sorry for those disillusioned and self consumed who really have no concept of reality and sprout their nonsense on a daily basis.

 

Thank you for your continual drivel. I appreciate the comedy value.

 

[Laughing Gravy]

5 hours ago, Kadilo said:

By December? If you are referring to me, I believe i said by the end of the year

I always knew you are a second language learner which is not derogatory by any means. But it explains a lot and especially your posts.

 

What job do you do in Isaan, I truly wonder!????.

 

Why not just be honest and explain your motives!

 

Edited November 12, 2021 by Laughing Gravy

[anchadian]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Wow that's a shocker.  I thought they were done with the Sinovac, did they happen to acquire more in light of saying they would not, or did it just arrive under cover of darkness from China with a group of tourists. The Pfizer they have was donated if I remember and they have yet to receive the doses they supposedly bought.  Maybe I am completely wrong with the way I remember this, but I am pretty sure they said they would not purchase anymore Sinovac.

BANGKOK — The government said it will not place orders for further shipments of Sinovac vaccines once the current supply runs out later this month, since health authorities will now switch to a combination of AstraZeneca and Pfizer doses instead

 

Report dated 19 October 2021

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2021/10/19/no-more-sinovac-orders-after-current-batch-runs-out-govt-says/

[Bkk Brian]

4 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Plenty of time for wriggle room yet. 

Really, wriggle room?  Is that your positive spin on this disastrous news for 1000's of people out of work with no support from the government for over a year. 

 

They were expecting easing of measures as outlined before when they said by the 1st Dec.

 

For those of us actually living in Thailand we know the situation on the ground, what makes you think you know better?

 

For me personally I live in one of the Provinces that was hardest hit in terms of the impact it had on the locals and 1000's of expats here. I know how many people have suffered and lost their business, I can still to this day drive through streets and streets of bordered up shops, bars and restaurants despite it getting busier in Bangla. 

 

These places used to belong to locals who as a consequence have lost their livelihood, have struggled for basic necessities, sometimes even their next meal.

 

It has touched me many times personally and though friends/acquaintances here. Wriggle room is not needed, financial aid is needed.

[ThailandRyan]

10 minutes ago, anchadian said:

BANGKOK — The government said it will not place orders for further shipments of Sinovac vaccines once the current supply runs out later this month, since health authorities will now switch to a combination of AstraZeneca and Pfizer doses instead

 

Report dated 19 October 2021

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2021/10/19/no-more-sinovac-orders-after-current-batch-runs-out-govt-says/

Yes that was it. The supplies are supposed to be done but alas someone has told a big porkie....

[Daithi85]

44 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why the blatant discrimination here? A choice for local Thai's of the more efficient vaccines and no choice for foreigners with the only option the less efficient vaccine as first dose? 

 

I'm pretty sure when the US and UK and any other countries will have a rethink to any further free donations that have not already been committed to based on this inequality and clear xenophobia.

 

Shooting themselves in the foot yet again at a time when Thailand is desperate for foreign tourists and expats to spend money over here.

In all fairness up until now it was the other way around  foreigners could choose what vaccine they  wanted and the Thais were given no choice, just take what was given to them. Any foreigner who wanted a vaccine should of gotten one long before now.foreigners in the Pattaya area got to sit in a nice air-con shopping mall while Thais were sent over to a football stadium to be vaccinated. The vaccine roll-out for farang was very well done in Pattaya. 

[Bkk Brian]

11 minutes ago, Daithi85 said:

In all fairness up until now it was the other way around  foreigners could choose what vaccine they  wanted and the Thais were given no choice, just take what was given to them. Any foreigner who wanted a vaccine should of gotten one long before now.foreigners in the Pattaya area got to sit in a nice air-con shopping mall while Thais were sent over to a football stadium to be vaccinated. The vaccine roll-out for farang was very well done in Pattaya. 

Not the case in Phuket, foreigners were never given a choice, the majority here including all international teachers had Sinovac. 

 

When I got AZ there were also plenty of Thai's and Burmese in the queue that was in Patong, Jungceylon a car park.

Edited November 12, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[brewsterbudgen]

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Changing the colors will not change the issue of the children younger than 11 still doing on-line classes, which will take it's toll I fear.  Covid has sure created an issue and I have been told that a few of the private schools are going under.  There was an OP running on that last week.

 

My 6-year-old goes back to school on Monday as do most schools in Bangkok.  I had assumed that, thankfully and belatedly, all schools were reopening for all ages?

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

My 6-year-old goes back to school on Monday as do most schools in Bangkok.  I had assumed that, thankfully and belatedly, all schools were reopening for all ages?

Unfortunately not the school the 7 year old daughter goes to. Still online.  A travesty is what it is. Covid has destroyed the education system. Today's school work dumped online took us over 8 hours to get the daughter through it. Guess they wanted them to work on it over the weekend.....

[brewsterbudgen]

7 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Unfortunately not the school the 7 year old daughter goes to. Still online.  A travesty is what it is. Covid has destroyed the education system. Today's school work dumped online took us over 8 hours to get the daughter through it. Guess they wanted them to work on it over the weekend.....

I'm gutted for you.  I had assumed that all schools (in Bangkok anyway) were reopening from Monday, with some having opened last week.

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I'm gutted for you.  I had assumed that all schools (in Bangkok anyway) were reopening from Monday, with some having opened last week.

Just the upper grades who have been vaccinated for now at her school....sucks

[Albert Zweistein]

15 hours ago, mtraveler said:

I'm not sure if anyone has noted this before, but on the graph for the 7 day rolling average of cases, it says:

 

"Due to limited testing, the number of confirmed cases is lower than the true number of infections."  

 

To all those who call us doomsayers, perhaps we're not so "doomy" after all.  

Not doomy but gloomy.

[Albert Zweistein]

12 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Excellent news. 
 

The cynics doubted it would be possible and they have been proved wrong once again. 
 

Well done to all those involved on the front line in helping reach this milestone after a sluggish start. 

Still only 49 % double jabbed so could be still doubtfull and besides Prayut is saying this but he said many things during this pandemic that didn't come true.