CIA deputy chief meets with Thai PM, DPM Prawit and security council chief

[webfact]

 

Deputy director of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) David Cohen had about 45 minutes of closed door discussions with Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha during an unscheduled meeting at Government House on Friday.

 

The discussion ranged from regional security and military and security cooperation between the United States and Thailand, to the situation in and humanitarian assistance for Myanmar.

 

The CIA deputy director also assured US support for Thailand’s role as chair of Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation (Apec) forum for 2022 and the US’s understanding of the situation in Thailand.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/cia-deputy-chief-meets-with-thai-pm-dpm-prawit-and-security-council-chief/

 

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[bkk6060]

I am sure there was no mention of the CCP.

[Lucky Bones]

PM smiled and nodded. No grasp of the English language.

Dep PM didn't hear a word.....asleep again (puts my cat to shame).

Press release propaganda followed.

[tonray]

I guess my time is up....can I hire that driver who ferried Ms. Shinawatra across the border ?

[ezzra]

They sent the Jewish guy to clear things up with the head honcho of this regime with the appointed for life PM... also in today news it was said that president Biden has averted 3rd world war by telling China boss bluntly that the US will not like it if China will invade Taiwan, to which Xi Jinping seems to cop it sweet and got the message...

[metisdead]

A post with a trolling reference to the PM's name has been removed.  If you do not want your post to be removed, use people's correct names when posting. 

[Pedrogaz]

CIA has got to be the world's most immoral, untrustworthy and criminal organisation. Why anyone from Thailand would meet with them is beyond my comprehension.

[worgeordie]

Looking to obtain more black sites ,that they don't have in Thailand.

regards worgordie

[John Drake]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

the US’s understanding of the situation in Thailand.

Exactly what does this mean?

[Tarteso]

No mention to he’s coming with his partner? ????

[Walker88]

2 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

CIA has got to be the world's most immoral, untrustworthy and criminal organisation. Why anyone from Thailand would meet with them is beyond my comprehension.

Ah, no. Reality is quite different from pulp fiction and Hollywood B-fare. Most people would be almost embarrassed by the restrictions put on case officers and the agency on the whole.

 

The one real negative over the last 40 or so years is the rendition program just after 9-11. Sadly, most of that was outsourced, using either other 'friendly' nations or else contractors who seem to have read the aforementioned pulp fiction or watched Hollywood B-fare. That doesn't absolve the agency of responsibility, but the vast majority of case officers were firmly against EIT, as was the DCI who came in after Petraeus (Brennan).

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

CIA has got to be the world's most immoral, untrustworthy and criminal organisation. Why anyone from Thailand would meet with them is beyond my comprehension.

Some similarities?

[GreasyFingers]

I hope that the Thai PM is not as gullible as the Australian PM that believes their BS. A better description of them would be the Non Intelligent Agency.

[fondue zoo]

2 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Looking to obtain more black sites ,that they don't have in Thailand.

 

No way, they closed it in 2002  ????

[rudi49jr]

7 hours ago, Lucky Bones said:

PM smiled and nodded. No grasp of the English language.

Dep PM didn't hear a word.....asleep again (puts my cat to shame).

Press release propaganda followed.

Yeah, somehow I don’t think the deputy chief of the CIA is going to share anything even remotely worthwhile or sensitive with anyone in this Thai cabinet.

[zzaa09]

3 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

CIA has got to be the world's most immoral, untrustworthy and criminal organisation. Why anyone from Thailand would meet with them is beyond my comprehension.

Some sort of financial compensation?

[herfiehandbag]

"Now that's all sorted, let's all go for a beer or two, I hear there are some choice places..."

 

Prayut and Prawit look awkward and shuffle their feet.

 

"Oh well, never mind, off to Cambodia tomorrow, that will be better!"

[Walker88]

4 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

I hope that the Thai PM is not as gullible as the Australian PM that believes their BS. A better description of them would be the Non Intelligent Agency.

And you know that how?

 

I'm guessing you have no clue what the agency has done over the last 40 or so years, but are convinced you're an expert, because you read something online.

 

One of the 'jobs' of the agency has always been to be the sitting Administration's fallguy. In a way that serves the agency, as it keeps adversaries confused as to whether the agency is omnipotent or incompetent. The reality is in the middle, closer to omnipotent.

 

I always laugh when I see folks say the agency got WMD in Iraq wrong. Not true. Because a negative cannot be proven, the agency had WMD at a low probability, but not zero. Cheney decided he wanted war, so ignored what the agency said, and got Tenet on board, against the advice of the agency folks who do the actual work.

[zzaa09]

3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

"Now that's all sorted, let's all go for a beer or two, I hear there are some choice places..."

 

Prayut and Prawit look awkward and shuffle their feet.

 

"Oh well, never mind, off to Cambodia tomorrow, that will be better!"

Well.....it wouldn't be Cambodia, as it's already been taken. 

[Danderman123]

13 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

And you know that how?

 

I'm guessing you have no clue what the agency has done over the last 40 or so years, but are convinced you're an expert, because you read something online.

 

One of the 'jobs' of the agency has always been to be the sitting Administration's fallguy. In a way that serves the agency, as it keeps adversaries confused as to whether the agency is omnipotent or incompetent. The reality is in the middle, closer to omnipotent.

 

I always laugh when I see folks say the agency got WMD in Iraq wrong. Not true. Because a negative cannot be proven, the agency had WMD at a low probability, but not zero. Cheney decided he wanted war, so ignored what the agency said, and got Tenet on board, against the advice of the agency folks who do the actual work.

Yep, the intelligence estimates in Iraq were fairly accurate. What Tenet gave Colin Powell was not.

 

i would say that the CIA is cleaning up their act a bit, not so many dirty deals these days, except in the Middle East.

 

Since the meeting was unscheduled, something must be up.

Edited November 20, 2021 by Danderman123

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Yep, the intelligence estimates in Iraq were fairly accurate. What Tenet gave Colin Powell was not.

 

i would say that the CIA is cleaning up their act a bit, not so many dirty deals these days, except in the Middle East.

 

Since the meeting was unscheduled, something must be up.

Unlikely anything was 'up'. David might have wanted to pass along the Admin's thoughts on Myanmar or China/Russia's efforts to make Myanmar a vassal state, by coopting the coup plotters. David probably wanted to ferret out Thailand's views on China's tacit takeover of Myanmar.

 

For some reason, Biden's FP team all seem to wish they were something other than what they are. The DCI wanted to be Sec State, and has acted as if he's SecState rather than DCI. David wanted to be DCI, but only got his second shot at DDCI. The main 3-4 (SecState, DCI, DNI and NatSecAdv) are all cut from the same cloth and are in danger of operating via groupthink. The only non-clique member of the FP team is SecDef Austin. My opinion is Biden erred in his selections and will suffer the consequences in terms of missing opposing views. He should have picked a career spook for DCI, or at least as DDCI. The COs and analysts of the agency are free thinkers and not beholden to one view. They will come to a conclusion and refuse to budge, unless new intel convinces them, while the DCI will want to go along with what DNI, SecState and NatSecAdv already believe (and think they know best). That is not the way it should work.

Edited November 20, 2021 by Walker88

[Dumbfounded]

9 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

CIA has got to be the world's most immoral, untrustworthy and criminal organisation. Why anyone from Thailand would meet with them is beyond my comprehension.

Birds of a feather

[worgeordie]

6 hours ago, fondue zoo said:

No way, they closed it in 2002  ????

and there are no others ............

regards worgeordie

[arithai12]

I really can't imagine the CIA sending a deputy director to discuss humanitarian assistance.

More likely, the CIA is trying to illustrate the advantages of embracing the US as a master rather than China. A bit late perhaps.

[asiasurfer]

16 hours ago, tonray said:

I guess my time is up....can I hire that driver who ferried Ms. Shinawatra across the border ?

She is not Mrs yet??? ????

[asiasurfer]

13 hours ago, Pedrogaz said:

CIA has got to be the world's most immoral, untrustworthy and criminal organisation. Why anyone from Thailand would meet with them is beyond my comprehension.

Exactly because of these negative reasons, you mentioned above. Lol

[asiasurfer]

17 hours ago, Lucky Bones said:

PM smiled and nodded. No grasp of the English language.

Dep PM didn't hear a word.....asleep again (puts my cat to shame).

Press release propaganda followed.

I'm sure, they were discussing the porn production low in TIT. Or was it TaT? I'm confused. Never mind... ????

[bendejo]

Perhaps the central premise of the visit is "whatever China is giving you, we'll outbid it."

 

US Federal law enforcement, particularly the CIA and FBI, are now mere shadows of what they used to be.  We got to witness it first hand when Comey admitted there were certain things he would/wouldn't do because he didn't want to face the wrath of certain political party.  A few weeks ago I heard a news story that there was a certain criminal the FBI couldn't find and gave up on, and handed the file over to a reporter; the reporter started out by calling the telephone number of the perp listed in the FBI file, and guess who answered the phone.  It took the US Postal Service Police (yes, there is such a thing) to catch a felon (with strong political connections) running a political donation scam not long ago.  I get the impression those who seek to dismantle the gov't are influencing all Federal LE agencies.

 

A few years back saw an action movie involving a CIA operation.  All set up, they are ready to execute the plan and a civilian asks "do you think it'll work?"  The agent answers "It's the CIA, they always f___ it up."

 

[scorecard]

9 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Yep, the intelligence estimates in Iraq were fairly accurate. What Tenet gave Colin Powell was not.

 

i would say that the CIA is cleaning up their act a bit, not so many dirty deals these days, except in the Middle East.

 

Since the meeting was unscheduled, something must be up.

And not polite... not enough time to get thousands of flowers arranged and get the venue decorated.

[Walker88]

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Yep, the intelligence estimates in Iraq were fairly accurate. What Tenet gave Colin Powell was not.

 

i would say that the CIA is cleaning up their act a bit, not so many dirty deals these days, except in the Middle East.

 

Since the meeting was unscheduled, something must be up.

The paper given to Gen Powell was edited and re-edited many times. The late Tyler Drumheller kept writing the truth, and before Gen Powell ever saw it, Cheney had it re-written. Tyler edited it again, Cheney changed it back to the BS. It made Gen Powell look like a dupe and an idiot, when he was only the former, not the latter.

 

When the UN inspection teams were still in Iraq, the agency gave them 'the best' intel on WMD sites, all provided by a single source (Curveball). The reason was because the agency did not believe the sites were real and wanted it proven so as to avoid war. Also, when the agency gives an asset a name like Curveball, it is for a reason. The inspection team found nothing. The agency folks hoped that could avoid war, but the Neocons were just dead set on war, saying it would be easy, the Iraqis would welcome us with rose petals, and a place that in its 5 thousand year history had had exactly zero seconds of democracy would instantly embrace the Western ideology.

 

History proved otherwise, as well as proving the case officers and analysts of the agency got things as right as the filed of espionage allows. $3 trillion and a million dead could have been avoided.