BANGKOK, Dec 1 (TNA) – The director-general of the Pollution Control Department discussed cross-border smoke haze solutions with representatives of four nearby countries.

 

Director-general Attapol Charoenchansa led a Thai delegation in the Twenty Second Meeting of Sub-Regional Ministerial Steering Committee on Transboundary Haze Pollution (22nd MSC) which was organized as a teleconference. The meeting also saw participants from Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore.

 

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I keep hearing this argument about smog, that it comes from other countries.  I'm sure that it's true, to some extent, but it's not the only smog that people are suffering with in this country.  

 

I just wish the government would focus on the pollution problems that exist on this side of the border.  Perhaps if they set the example in the region, others would follow their lead.  And if not, if nothing else, the air would be at least 50% better.  

"Sweep in front of your own doorstep first" I was told by my parents from little feet. As I noticed in Thailand there is a lack of upbringing hence many problems.

Cross-border solution sounds like "it is not me, the others do also"... how many subcommittees will they need?

Build a great big beautiful wall.

They can't even agree on a cross rice paddy solution............let alone borders...............

All these cross boarder agreement are a positive step on the right direction. but no significant change will be made until Thailand changes it's culture of corruption. 

Driving yesterday on the ring road around Khon Kaen, I notice the highway middle divider is all charred black , I tell the wife. look at that there was a big fire here. She says

"They just burned the grass, a lot easier and less expensive  than cutting it" 

Oh, that time of the year is it? Yes...let's add to the pollution with a load of hot air! Blah blah blah.

When you're one of the major producers of smoke from burning, and it isn't mostly smallholder farmers just trying to survive but instead is massive agricultural conglomerates, many of whom are well represented both within leadership and as funders of the Thai government, and who similarly undertake these sorts of investments and operations IN those neighbouring countries, the level of hypocrisy rises well above the toxic threshold. Give me a break. 

Looking forward to these committees pontificating meaninglessly as Chiang Mai chokes their way through March, April and May.

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The director-general of the Pollution Control Department discussed cross-border smoke haze solutions with representatives of four nearby countries.

I wonder if this guy has ever been to Chiang Mai in January, February or March?

28 minutes ago, JCauto said:

Oh, that time of the year is it? Yes...let's add to the pollution with a load of hot air! Blah blah blah.

When you're one of the major producers of smoke from burning, and it isn't mostly smallholder farmers just trying to survive but instead is massive agricultural conglomerates, many of whom are well represented both within leadership and as funders of the Thai government, and who similarly undertake these sorts of investments and operations IN those neighbouring countries, the level of hypocrisy rises well above the toxic threshold. Give me a break. 

Looking forward to these committees pontificating meaninglessly as Chiang Mai chokes their way through March, April and May.

Sorry about that, we must have been typing at the same time.

"Haze" , not what I would call it, They are not really taking this serious , 

Its been going on for years , and the Government's response has been

none existence to the farcical , spraying water machines in Chiang Mai

City center, Chinese leaf blowers.... they need to have Police, Army and

any volunteers up in the hills and forests ,to catch the arsonists , take

them to court , and they need prison sentences to deter others from

burning and causing suffering for the majority of the population.

 

Will the North be choking in a few weeks , Hell ,yes it never changes.

 

regards Worgeordie

 

1 hour ago, Gsxrnz said:

Build a great big beautiful wall.

Better yet a wall of giant fans.  It will keep thiers out and suck yours to them.

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The director-general of the Pollution Control Department discussed cross-border smoke haze solutions with representatives of four nearby countries.

Sort out your own back garden first.

5 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:

Cross-border solution sounds like "it is not me, the others do also"... how many subcommittees will they need?

Not to mention a probe or two.

11 hours ago, nowhereman said:

"Sweep in front of your own doorstep first" I was told by my parents from little feet. As I noticed in Thailand there is a lack of upbringing hence many problems.

 
 

Two years ago… and waiting; ????????

I'm in Pattaya, no borders for a long way, we get the "haze".  They can't blame other countries for here.

While it is certainly true that neighboring countries like Myanmar and Laos are contributing to the problem, I fear this will be just another excuse for Thai authorities to do absolutely nothing domestically. 

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

representatives of four nearby countries.

 

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

also saw participants from Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore.

Brunei and Indonesia hardly "nearby"!! When it comes to haze/smoke, IMO the conference should have included neighbours Burma, Laos and Cambodia. 

37 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

 

Brunei and Indonesia hardly "nearby"!! When it comes to haze/smoke, IMO the conference should have included neighbours Burma, Laos and Cambodia. 

True, I have lived in both Cambodia and Indonesia, couple years each - Thailand has nothing on Indonesia when it comes to smoke - was so bad, many evacuated to Singapore one year - couldn't breath.  Cambodia burns everything, you name it, goes up in flames, smokes everyone out.    Peace

Sounds like a ploy to avoid having to do anything now. Sort your own mess out first, Thailand. Get your police working to arrest farmers who start fires.

On 12/2/2021 at 12:01 PM, DefaultName said:

I'm in Pattaya, no borders for a long way, we get the "haze".  They can't blame other countries for here.

I can smell the burning from when the sun sets...... dusk to dawn.

On 12/2/2021 at 5:49 PM, Pedrogaz said:

Get your police working to arrest farmers who start fires

That is not the solution to the problem even though many would like it to be.

 

 

How about starting on your own side of the border?

On 12/2/2021 at 2:00 PM, Burma Bill said:

Indonesia hardly "nearby"!!

It is for us in the south. During July to September, on bad years, we get the smoke from fires in Sumatra and Kalimantan.