Masks with exhalation valves officially banned while traveling by aircraft in Thailand, CAAT reports

[snoop1130]

 

The Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) has now officially banned wearing facial masks with exhalation valves on board to potentially prevent the spread of Covid-19 Coronavirus, which technically became effective earlier this month on December 1st, although was only revealed to the press yesterday.

 

CAAT Director-General Suttipong Kongpool revealed yesterday, December 9th, that the order was approved under the regulations of the CAAT regarding the guidelines for passenger services during the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (Covid-19) Outbreak Situation.

 

The restriction of wearing masks with exhalation valves was issued in accordance with the recommendation of The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) and the international standards of the World Health Organization (WHO) as the exhalation valves would allow unfiltered breath to escape the mask.

 

Full Story: https://thepattayanews.com/2021/12/10/masks-with-exhalation-valves-officially-banned-while-traveling-by-aircraft-in-thailand-caat-reports/

 

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[bdenner]

I use quality masks BUT now we are approaching the cooler season my glasses are fogged up.

Although I have not flown for 2 years I'm sure it could be a problem.

What's the solution?

 

[hamleknoi]

Yes, because exhaling the majority of your breath up towards your eyes, out the side of your face, and in the chin area is so much safer.

Have they checked the CO2 levels in crowded planes (as if that matters)?

Complete and utter stupidity at work.

 

Edited December 10, 2021 by hamleknoi

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3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Is your post just being sarcastic, or do you believe what you posted?  Masks do work at reducing the contact one has with the droplets of others.

For a while it was believed that masks primarily protect others from the wearer, but not so much the wearer from others. But actual studies now show that mask wearing also has a strongly protective effect for the wearer

 

Masks Protect Wearers and Others from COVID-19

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20201111/masks-protect-wearers-and-others-from-covid-19

 

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, bdenner said:

I use quality masks BUT now we are approaching the cooler season my glasses are fogged up.

Although I have not flown for 2 years I'm sure it could be a problem.

What's the solution?

 

Let the pilot do the flying? ????

Edited December 10, 2021 by herfiehandbag

[Phuketshrew]

7 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Let the pilot do the flying? ????

maybe he IS the pilot?

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Surgical masks reduce COVID-19 spread, large-scale study shows   

Researchers found that surgical masks impede the spread of COVID-19 and that just a few, low-cost interventions increase mask-wearing compliance.

A large, randomized trial led by researchers at  Stanford Medicine and Yale University has found that wearing a surgical face mask over the mouth and nose is an effective way to reduce the occurrence of COVID-19 in community settings.

It also showed that relatively low-cost, targeted interventions to promote mask-wearing can significantly increase the use of face coverings in rural, low-income countries. Based on the results, the interventional model is being scaled up to reach tens of millions of people in Southeast Asia and Latin America over the next few months.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

Edited December 11, 2021 by Scott

[freedomnow]

Yes, it was a bit daft with the whole "gaping hole in the mask" idea, wasn't it ?

[Card]

13 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Is your post just being sarcastic, or do you believe what you posted?  Masks do work at reducing the contact one has with the droplets of others.

Sorry but the idea of masks is to protect others not yourself. It disperses droplets from your breath so there is a lower inoculum potential going to others. It does not protect your eyes which is an entry point for the virus.

[ThailandRyan]

22 minutes ago, Card said:

Sorry but the idea of masks is to protect others not yourself. It disperses droplets from your breath so there is a lower inoculum potential going to others. It does not protect your eyes which is an entry point for the virus.

Try and read my post and not interpret is as wearing it to protect others but both protecting the wearer from others droplets and being a responsible individual to protect others from you spreading droplets. It works both ways.

[ThailandRyan]

5 hours ago, freedomnow said:

Yes, it was a bit daft with the whole "gaping hole in the mask" idea, wasn't it ?

The masks with valves are not gaping holes. Read a little and learn. Those masks are not appropriate for Covid 19 but are designed for PM 2.5 and dust particle in construction zones and protect only the wearer from those particles. They were never designed to protect others from you. That's why surgical masks work more appropriately when worn correctly.

 

https://www.nist.gov/news-events/news/2020/11/new-airflow-videos-show-why-masks-exhalation-valves-do-not-slow-spread

 

Exhalation valves, which make masks easier to breathe through and more comfortable, are appropriate when the mask is meant to protect the wearer. For instance, valved masks can protect workers from dust at a construction site or hospital workers from infected patients.  

[SiSePuede419]

11 hours ago, hamleknoi said:

Have they checked the CO2 levels in crowded planes (as if that matters)?

Why would the CO2 levels be any different in airplanes without masks?

 

Where did you get your Science education?

 

At a Manchester United beer party?

 

Don't you realize beer kegs use CO2 as a propellant? ????

Edited December 11, 2021 by SiSePuede419

[Benmart]

11 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Yeh right. Masks don't work. Love to see your rationality and evidence for this. Anti-maskers? I just don't get it.

Research reveals conflicting results. Closed minds often don't get it.

[The Deerhunter]

14 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Is your post just being sarcastic, or do you believe what you posted?  Masks do work at reducing the contact one has with the droplets of others.

All agreed but I have been waiting months for that. So obvious ( but so convenient to wear with a separate filter pad inside)  Sigh!!!!     Alibaba adverts always seem to say "not appropriate for viral protection," or something like that.  

[Retfed50]

13 hours ago, bdenner said:

I use quality masks BUT now we are approaching the cooler season my glasses are fogged up.

Although I have not flown for 2 years I'm sure it could be a problem.

What's the solution?

 

Try pulling your glasses away from your face a bit. Your breath won't go directly up to your glasses.

[Virt]

13 hours ago, bdenner said:

I use quality masks BUT now we are approaching the cooler season my glasses are fogged up.

Although I have not flown for 2 years I'm sure it could be a problem.

What's the solution?

 

Surgical tape.

Put a bit of tape over the top of your mask/nose and it will stop your glasses from fogging.

Not ideal but helps a bit.

Not practical in normal day use, but if you are on a plane for several hours where it is required to wear a mask, it can be handy.

[billsmart]

Masks with exhalation valves defeat the main purpose of masks. ????

 

The PRIMARY purpose of masks is to prevent the spread of COVID-19 by reducing the DISTRIBUTION of the virus via your exhales. Masks also protect you somewhat from inhaling the virus, but that is not their primary purpose.

 

 

[billsmart]

13 hours ago, bdenner said:

I use quality masks BUT now we are approaching the cooler season my glasses are fogged up.

Although I have not flown for 2 years I'm sure it could be a problem.

What's the solution?

 

I tuck the top of my mask in under my glasses. This helps a lot.

[vandeventer]

45 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Your opinion about masks not working is laughable.  I do agree people do not change and discard them as they should, calling mask wearing virtue signaling is also anti masker talk.  

I think mask wearing is great, but I have seen this too often when people wear the mask when they have to cough or sneeze they lift the mask. Waiting in the check out line in Tesco I was slimed by a very young beautiful girl behind me that lifted her mask and sneezed all this liquid on my arm. She did say sorry and the check out girl did have a towel to wipe it off. So my point is when the masks are use correctly their great but I see a lot of people misuse them or wear them on their chin.

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1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

Grumpy as in how? You mean when correcting the facts posted by others that are incorrect, well that's not being grumpy that is called correcting misinformation.  

Posters who resort to  personal comments use this tactic because the facts are against them.

[jacko45k]

They have just got round to doing this?

I know it was a job to get people into masks in the first place, but of course this type are not suitable. 

[IAMHERE]

I don't believe much, if any ,of the droplets goes out those Exhalation valves. It's the droplets that the mask are supposed to prevent. 

Twenty years and they haven't imiproved the elctronics enough that you can still keep your radio or phone on in their planes.

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1 minute ago, IAMHERE said:

I don't believe much, if any ,of the droplets goes out those Exhalation valves. It's the droplets that the mask are supposed to prevent. 

Twenty years and they haven't imiproved the elctronics enough that you can still keep your radio or phone on in their planes.

Radio? What's a radio? Is that some exciting new piece of technology?

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, bdenner said:

I use quality masks BUT now we are approaching the cooler season my glasses are fogged up.

Although I have not flown for 2 years I'm sure it could be a problem.

What's the solution?

 

As long as your not the pilot... it shouldn't be a problem.????

[Bert got kinky]

32 minutes ago, Retfed50 said:

Try pulling your glasses away from your face a bit. Your breath won't go directly up to your glasses.

Or clean your glasses with liquid soap, don't wash the soap off, wipe it off with a tissue or soft cloth and then clean the lenses as usual.

 

 

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, IAMHERE said:

I don't believe much, if any ,of the droplets goes out those Exhalation valves. It's the droplets that the mask are supposed to prevent. 

Twenty years and they haven't imiproved the elctronics enough that you can still keep your radio or phone on in their planes.

Sometimes people cough or sneeze and I am certain droplets would be exhaled in numbers through these valves. As to aircraft, it is similar to why they use conventional heat ovens for the meals and not microwaves.... fear of how it might impact the multitudes of wiring and electronics.....

[tandor]

14 hours ago, bdenner said:

I use quality masks BUT now we are approaching the cooler season my glasses are fogged up.

Although I have not flown for 2 years I'm sure it could be a problem.

What's the solution?

 

...a better seal over your nose and under your eyes.

[tandor]

...maybe the Airlines and public transport services should be handing out approved masks.

[jacko45k]

14 hours ago, bdenner said:

I use quality masks BUT now we are approaching the cooler season my glasses are fogged up.

Although I have not flown for 2 years I'm sure it could be a problem.

What's the solution?

 

Drink from the bottle?

[Bert got kinky]

9 minutes ago, IAMHERE said:

I don't believe much, if any ,of the droplets goes out those Exhalation valves. It's the droplets that the mask are supposed to prevent. 

Twenty years and they haven't imiproved the elctronics enough that you can still keep your radio or phone on in their planes.

 

Twenty years and they haven't imiproved the elctronics enough that you can still keep your radio or phone on in their planes.

 

Maybe they don't want to, Imagine trying to get some kip when the loud <deleted> sitting next to you a on an 11 hour flight insists on calling his friends and family to tell them 'loudly' that he is on a plane, for the entirety of the flight.

Imagine that scenario being played out multiple times on the same plane.

By the end of the flight I would get a flight ban for air rage.