Russian invasion creates a multitude of problems for tourism

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13 hours ago, Stygge said:

Yes, and some nazi officers in ww2 were poetry lovers and cuddled puppies.
Hitler himself had a soft spot for his german shepard Blondie. But still they were ruthlessly condemnd by an incomprehensive and judgemental surrounding world

Clearly, you don't understand that there's a salient difference between people who volunteered to be Nazis , and people who happen to be born citizens of a certain country. Or do you believes that the citizen of Russians had to volunteer to gain that status?

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On 3/7/2022 at 6:17 AM, RichardColeman said:

Very telling that Thailand does not see the events in Ukraine as a humanitarian disaster, but as a tourism disaster !

Because they are self centred people........hence their claims to being the hub of everything.

 

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3 hours ago, placeholder said:

Clearly, you don't understand that there's a salient difference between people who volunteered to be Nazis , and people who happen to be born citizens of a certain country. Or do you believes that the citizen of Russians had to volunteer to gain that status?

All germans shared, rightfully, the blame. The allied forced them to visit the concentration camps. After the fall of Paris and France I think it´s estimated more than 90 % of the german population supported Hitler. Near the end not so many. But if you belonged to the 90 % you share the blame even if you jump ship later when things begins to go sour for the strongman. Same with the russians. More than 90 % applauded the takeover of Crimea. Then you can´t declare innocence later when Putin fail in the next takeover, Ukraine.

 

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9 hours ago, Stygge said:

All germans shared, rightfully, the blame. The allied forced them to visit the concentration camps. After the fall of Paris and France I think it´s estimated more than 90 % of the german population supported Hitler. Near the end not so many. But if you belonged to the 90 % you share the blame even if you jump ship later when things begins to go sour for the strongman. Same with the russians. More than 90 % applauded the takeover of Crimea. Then you can´t declare innocence later when Putin fail in the next takeover, Ukraine.

 

Keep in mind that your original comparison assigned guilt to those who committed atrocities and those who turn a blind eye to them.

And by your logic all Americans and Britons and citizens of any other nations that supported the Iraq war are also just as guilty as the worst of its government agens and with even less excuse, since they did have unfettered access to media and they didn't face the kind of harsh consequences Russians face if they oppose the war. 

 

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19 hours ago, sezze said:

It's a :and + and + and story . The war created a huge disruption of the market , especially on energy prices , which is needed for everything . Also for the food , with Ukraine being a huge grain producer around the world . The market was already shaking by covid and indeed let's not forget 2008 . All the things combined makes a perfect storm .

 you are right ,since start the war or ,take a date before the war like 1.2 , prices until now increase only modest, us gas 10% , oil aprox 15% ,Soya 10% ..wheat ,yes ukraine is top producer  20%  and specialised product comes fom ukraine  neongas for ex 1000 and dryed egg base product

 

but the SUPERCYCLE in commoditys was already in place before, and was excelerating already in 2021 ,so the gains since a month before the war and during the war are very modest compare to 2021

 

but it still could much escalating futher if conflict extends

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12 hours ago, placeholder said:

Keep in mind that your original comparison assigned guilt to those who committed atrocities and those who turn a blind eye to them.

And by your logic all Americans and Britons and citizens of any other nations that supported the Iraq war are also just as guilty as the worst of its government agens and with even less excuse, since they did have unfettered access to media and they didn't face the kind of harsh consequences Russians face if they oppose the war. 

 

Yes, of course. But I think the supporters of the Iraq wars still can keep their heads high. Most think the war was justified anyway to get rid of Saddam and the rest can say they were informed Saddam was developing nuclerar arms.
I can see a difference between Ukraine and Iraq.

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Off-topic posts and replies removed.   The discussion isn't about the Iraq war.