Phuket Retirement Visa Agent Recommendation

[TropicalGuy]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Please stop as your statements are incorrect.

Most posters cut slack and do not pick folk up on incorrect terms, however for some reason you continue.

 

Visas cannot be extended PERIOD.

Your thread concerns a non O visa  based on retirement. 

That is a single entry visa (can be obtained inside Thailand from tv or visa exempt entry)

The permission of stay granted from that visa can be extended.

Those extensions can be ongoing.

Here is a pic of a non O based on retirement.

You will notice the word "used".

Your stamp obtained inside Thailand will look different but still the same. 

 

 

All Quite Different Advice to that from Agent Today. Never Mind. 

[rott]

On 4/4/2022 at 9:02 PM, skatewash said:

Some people think there are two kinds of people in the world::  lumpers and splitters.

Lumpers like to focus on what things have in common, while splitters like to focus on what makes things different.

If you're a lumper anything relating to an endorsement in a passport that allows one to enter, leave, or stay in a country for a specified period of time could be called a visa.   The neat thing with this is that you only have to remember one word:  visa.  Everything is a visa,  Of course, visas are not all the same, but we can use one word and cover the whole waterfront.

If you're a splitter you recognize that there are significant differences between visas. 

Some visas can only be obtained outside of the country at embassies or consulates from the ministry of foreign affairs.  These visas allow one to enter the country and get a permission to stay in the country for a specified period of time.  These visas are good during their period of validity.  They only allow one to enter a country during that period of validity.

Other visas are purchased from the immigration offices in the country from the Royal Thai Police division that handles immigration matters.  These visas don't allow you to enter the country which makes sense because you're already in the country.  What these visas do is allow you to stay in the country by granting to you permission to stay in the country for a specified period of time.   If you want to leave the country you need to purchase another visa that is sold by the immigration offices that allows you to re-enter the country and resume your current permission to stay.

Now, splitters when they see a situation like this have a strong desire to call these two different kinds of visas by two different names.  Lets call the first category "visas."  Let's call the second category "extensions of stay."

If you're talking to a splitter and they say they have a visa you know they have something that was obtained outside the country, that has a validity period, and that when you enter the country with one results in you being given a certain permission to stay.  If the splitter says that they instead have an extension of stay, you know they have something that was obtained within the country, that comes with a permission of stay, and that if you leave the country with another kind of visa (which splitters will call a "re-entry permit") you will be allowed to re-enter the country and resume your existing permission to stay.

Both lumpers and splitters exist in the world.  However, if you are trying to get an accurate answer to a specific immigration related question you are going to find it easier to use the terms of art used by the splitters rather than the all-inclusive term favored by the lumpers.  Or you can just use the general term "visa' and then spend some time getting everyone to understand what sort of "visa" you are talking about.  The choice is up to you.  But I suspect you will find that the people answering your questions will tend to use the different names "visas" have when describing how you can do what you want to do in precise and unambiguous terms.  I hope that would be an understandable tendency.  The alternative is to give answers that may or may not fit the questioner's situation, may in fact be the wrong answer, because of misunderstanding what the questioner has in his passport.

It's the stamp in the passport that refers to an extension of permission to stay. The word visa does not appear. 

[TropicalGuy]

2 minutes ago, rott said:

It's the stamp in the passport that refers to an extension of permission to stay. The word visa does not appear. 

Check definition of “visa”

[rott]

1 minute ago, TropicalGuy said:

Check definition of “visa”

This is Thailand. Outside opinions do not apply. If you like their opinions so much go and live where they come from. 

[rott]

For ubonjoe/Dr Jack a technical question. When applying for a new retirement extension is this a simple renewal or a fresh application each time. As we are straying into pedantry it seemed an apposite time to ask. 

[TropicalGuy]

51 minutes ago, rott said:

This is Thailand. Outside opinions do not apply. If you like their opinions so much go and live where they come from. 

Surely one of the most strange, puzzling & absurd comments ever made…..????

May I use it when wanting to present as completely uneducated & ill- mannered? That staggering mental leap from “opinions” to “where to live” is I believe A First ! Are you perhaps a Professor of Philosophy ?????
 

Thailand Immigration follow the universal definition of “visa” ….and probably also….. “moron”.
 

All modern systems, practices & terms here come from “outside”.
Or did you think they just themselves invented Medicine, Law, Commerce, Insurance, Immigration, Motor Vehicles, Airplanes, etc. Consider Carefully Now …….????

[skatewash]

1 hour ago, rott said:

For ubonjoe/Dr Jack a technical question. When applying for a new retirement extension is this a simple renewal or a fresh application each time. As we are straying into pedantry it seemed an apposite time to ask. 

Seens to me the word renewal is appropriate in that there is a difference between the requirements for the first applicaion for an extension of stay and subsequent extensions of stay.

 

Namely, the first only requires that you have a balance sbove 800k for two months before your application.  While the second requires that you have maintained a balance above 800k for three months after your previous ectension of stay and then a minimum balance above 400k until two months before your current application during which latter period you have to maintain a balance above 800k.

 

In other words, renewing an extension of has more stringent financial balance requirements than the initial extension of stay.

 

The term renewing captures the distinction between the initual and subsequent extensions of stay.

[ubonjoe]

Topic closed at OP's request via message.