Multiple Entry Tv Recommendations For New Entry Stamp?

[BCMike]

I am 30 years old, and have a triple entry tourist visa that I obtained from my home country of Canada shortly before arriving here in Bangkok at the end of April. My first 60 days expires next week on June 25. My return ticket back to Canada is October 25, or 182 days after my arrival date (according to the calculator on the main page). I have spent the last couple hours reading this forum trying to find out as much info as I can but still have a few questions that I hope someone could answer...

1. If I cross a border and re-enter for my 2nd of 3 entries before June 25 (say tomorrow), do my next 60 days start from that same day (tomorrow) or do they start after my first 60 day 'admitted until' stamp date of June 25? (I suspect it's the former). Since I would like to be in LOS a full 180 days total, I want to stretch my 3 tourist visa entries as long as possible so am I correct in my assumption that to maximize my number of days allowed I need to wait till the 'admitted until' date each time I leave and re-enter?
   
2. If I were to leave LOS on the 25th and re-enter the same day, do the next 60 days count from the 25th as well? If so, would this not effectively make my first 2 visas add up to 119 days instead of 120 days? If this is the case I suspose I need to stay overnight on the other side of the border to get 120 days from 2 consecutive TV visa entries?
   
3. I am also planning to stay at least a couple nights in another boardering country which will be necessary anyway to legally be here 182 days after my arrival with my three 60 day visas (I would rather not have to pay extra to get a tourist visa extension since I only need an extra couple days). I assume if I do this then this will work to delay the effective start date of the following 60-day entry visa?
   
4. Finally I just want to verify a few things about a multiple entry tourist visa: I Don't need any onward travel docs, don't need 20,000 baht, and don't need any additional photos to re-enter Thailand (but do to enter other countries with visa requirements like Cambodia), and I can re-enter at any international border - correct?
   

I haven't decided where to stay and if I will stay somewhere this time or the next time I need to re-enter. Any suggestions for someone on a backpackers budget (maybe this part should be another post)? I was thinking it might simplify things if I took a visa run service from Bangkok to Ban Laem, stay in Cambodia for a couple nights, then come back to Bangkok with another bus from the same company. Do you know of any of the visa run companies that would be able to accomodate an itenerary like this, and more importantly, would it be worthwhile to stay in that part of Cambodia? I also see there is an option with Jack's golf to see Angkor Wat for 2 nights/3 days - any experiences with that trip or other options/suggestions for someone new to Southeast Asia and would like to spend a few days outside Thailand?

Edited June 19, 2007 by BCMike

[AZwanderer]

u can get a 30 extension for 1900 baht at an immigration office on each of those TV... Why not do that and plan your trip next month plus ud get an extra 3 months out of thos TV??? Just a thought

[Maestro]

I’ve got good news for you: you don’t have to spend even a single night outside Thailand if you don’t want to, because you can get any or all of the three 60-day entries into Thailand extended by 30 days with a simple application at a local Immigration office. The important thing is that the third and last of your entries is made no later than the expiration date stamped on your visa. You have not mentioned that date except to say that the visa was issued shortly before your departure for Thailand, and we know that it is valid for 6 months. So let’s say it was issued on 20 April and expires 19 October.

This is one example how you can work it:

Entry 1: 27 April

Admitted until: 25 June

Extend until: 25 July (Cost 1,900 Baht)

Entry 2: 23 July

Admitted until: 20 September

Entry 3: 18 September

Admitted until: 16 November

Departure: 25 October

Why does my list not give your subsequent entries on the last day of your permitted stay? You don’t need to squeeze every last day out of your visa, and to allow for any emergency (visa bus breaks down, etc) it is best not to leave the visa run to the last day. In fact, you have so many days to spare that you can make your runs even earlier.

You can choose which of the three entries you prefer to extend. With your itinerary, you need to extend only once. You can apply for your 30-day extension up to three weeks before your permitted stay expires. Again, best no leave it until the last day. Regardless of the application date, the 30 days are added on to the existing permission to stay.

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Maestro

[BCMike]

u can get a 30 extension for 1900 baht at an immigration office on each of those TV... Why not do that and plan your trip next month plus ud get an extra 3 months out of thos TV??? Just a thought

Thanks for the suggestion. I thought about doing that but I'd like to see another bordering country anyway so I figure why pay extra for an extention that I don't really need (my return date to Canada is definate and fixed so I don't need any extra months on top of the 180 days I should be able to get with my triple entry TV). So I'd rather put the 1900 baht into a cheap short trip to Cambodia or Laos or ?

[BCMike]

You have not mentioned that date except to say that the visa was issued shortly before your departure for Thailand, and we know that it is valid for 6 months. So let's say it was issued on 20 April and expires 19 October.

Right, I meant to mention the expiration date of the visa. Your guess was very close . It was issued April 17 and expires Oct. 16. This shouldn't be a problem since I will be leaving only 9 days after the expiration date, and my last entry into Thailand will be well before this.

This is one example how you can work it:

Entry 1: 27 April

Admitted until: 25 June

Extend until: 25 July (Cost 1,900 Baht)

[...]

Why does my list not give your subsequent entries on the last day of your permitted stay? You don't need to squeeze every last day out of your visa, and to allow for any emergency (via bus breaks down, etc) it is best not to leave the visa run to the last day. In fact, you have so many days to spare that you can make your runs even earlier.

You can choose which of the three entries you prefer to extend. With your itinerary, you need to extend only once. You can apply for your 30-day extension up to three weeks before your permitted stay expires. Again, best no leave it until the last day. Regardless of the application date, the 30 days are added on to the existing permission to stay.

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Thanks for the example. Like I said above though, I would like to do a short side trip outside Thailand anyway so why not stretch out my 180 allowed days on my current Visa and avoid paying extra for an extension? Maybe I'll spend 4 or 5 days outside thailand to allow an extra day or 2 for any emergency (good suggestion).

Edited June 19, 2007 by BCMike

[Maestro]

... I'd rather put the 1900 baht into a cheap short trip to Cambodia or Laos or ?

That’s a splendid idea.

When calculating your dates, simply remember that for the 60-day entries both the date of arrival and the date of departure are counted, but you probably already know this, not least from the first entry stamp you already have.

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Maestro

[BCMike]

... I'd rather put the 1900 baht into a cheap short trip to Cambodia or Laos or ?

That's a splendid idea.

When calculating your dates, simply remember that for the 60-day entries both the date of arrival and the date of departure are counted, but you probably already know this, not least from the first entry stamp you already have.

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Maestro

Thanks again, that's really the main thing that I wanted to verify (I guess I should have figured it out myself from the first stamp ). Now I just have to figure out where I should go.

[lopburi3]

1. 60 days start the day you enter Thailand.

2. Yes you will lose a day with entry/exit the same day. Also it is advisable to plan to leave the day before the permitted to stay until date just to be safe.

3. Same answer as one - entry date is day one of visa entry.

4. You should not require tickets or photos but you do require 20,000 baht on every entry. It may not be checked but it is required. You can enter at all normal border checkpoints that process foreigners.

We are assuming your visa will remain valid for the time until your last entry into Thailand. Normal is six months but you need to check that.

[BCMike]

1. 60 days start the day you enter Thailand.

2. Yes you will lose a day with entry/exit the same day. Also it is advisable to plan to leave the day before the permitted to stay until date just to be safe.

3. Same answer as one - entry date is day one of visa entry.

4. You should not require tickets or photos but you do require 20,000 baht on every entry. It may not be checked but it is required. You can enter at all normal border checkpoints that process foreigners.

We are assuming your visa will remain valid for the time until your last entry into Thailand. Normal is six months but you need to check that.

Thanks for the answers. I've decided to do a trip to Siem Reap later this week, and return on June 30th or so (anyone want to join me?). That would mean my second visa will expire Aug 27th, at which point I'll do a single day visa run, then my 3rd visa will last till October 26th which is one day more than I need - perfect .