2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

What does Mayor Pete bring to the table, other than he could check the box of "first openly gay President?". Let's be honest, if he were straight he would still be trying to get potholes filled in South Bend.

I believe what we have seen with this hopeless administration is exactly that. Box ticking with no thought whatsoever for competence or suitability for the role.

 Ms Harris, first black VP

 Ms Jackson, first black female SC judge

 Karine Jean-Pierre,  first gay black immigrant spokesperson. Lots of boxes ticked - and a complete joke. 

 

I'm just looking forward to the adults getting back in control. This woke admin is a dangerous failure.

A post with a video from a late night comedy show has been removed as it was not a credible news media source.

31 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I believe what we have seen with this hopeless administration is exactly that. Box ticking with no thought whatsoever for competence or suitability for the role.

 Ms Harris, first black VP

 Ms Jackson, first black female SC judge

 Karine Jean-Pierre,  first gay black immigrant spokesperson. Lots of boxes ticked - and a complete joke. 

 

I'm just looking forward to the adults getting back in control. This woke admin is a dangerous failure.

As is Biden Himself. Overall approval rating now at 30%

 

"Biden’s 30% overall approval was far below the 39% that Civiqs registered in 2017 as President Donald Trump’s lowest-ever number — and not even in shouting distance of the 44% approval rating Trump notched at the same point in his presidency."

 

https://civiqs.com/results/approve_president_biden?annotations=true&uncertainty=true&zoomIn=true

 

It isn't going to get much better either. The WHite House is trying desperately to keep Biden out of the public eye as much as possible. He has done far fewer press conferences or interviews than any of his recent predecessors- the numbers are shocking. Obama did nearly 200 interviews in his first two years, Biden has done less than 40. 

 

Joking aside, his cognitive decline is obvious and somewhat sad.  It is a natural part of aging. A 79 year old goes through it. That is why pilots have to retire at 65, doctors the same, etc. Yet somehow politicians are allowed to stagger along with their snouts in the public trough until they are carried out feet first. It is a farce, ad one that both parties should be ashamed about participating in.

On 7/6/2022 at 5:07 AM, Scott said:

With pressures mounting, Biden thinks GOP will make his midterm case for him

Keep dreamin' Joe (while trying not to trip on those White House extension cords) and keep your chin up...39% of your own party still want you to run in '24 ????????????????????????  (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/11/us/politics/biden-approval-polling-2024.html?smid=url-share)

 

Source: Politico

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4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

What does Mayor Pete bring to the table, other than he could check the box of "first openly gay President?". Let's be honest, if he were straight he would still be trying to get potholes filled in South Bend.

That was a very bigoted comment.

He's very skilled at  debating and giving speeches  He has charisma and youthful appeal. He had much higher numbers than Harris in the nomination fight and actually had a real shot at winning. He's up for going on Fox News and directly facing the trumpists there. As he's ambitious he wisely passed on running for Indiana Senator or Governor because Indiana is a very right wing republican state so he had no chance. So it was go national or nothing. Being a Midwesterner like Klobuchar is always a plus. It's hard to pigeonhole his politics. Not really progressive wing but something more moderate of his own creation. Definitely high appeal to independents and the key suburban women demographic  He has trouble getting support of blacks though and the perception that he's highly intelligent even nerdy is probably a negative in anti intellectual America.

 

Of course hard core homophobes would never vote for him but they are mostly Republicans anyway.

 

I think he's an option but there is probably a better option out there. It's early. May well be a much less well known person.

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41 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

That was a very bigoted comment.

He's very skilled at  debating and giving speeches  He has charisma and youthful appeal. He had much higher numbers than Harris in the nomination fight and actually had a real shot at winning. He's up for going on Fox News and directly facing the trumpists there. As he's ambitious he wisely passed on running for Indiana Senator or Governor because Indiana is a very right wing republican state so he had no chance. So it was go national or nothing. Being a Midwesterner like Klobuchar is always a plus. It's hard to pigeonhole his politics. Not really progressive wing but something more moderate of his own creation. Definitely high appeal to independents and the key suburban women demographic  He has trouble getting support of blacks though and the perception that he's highly intelligent even nerdy is probably a negative in anti intellectual America.

 

Of course hard core homophobes would never vote for him but they are mostly Republicans anyway.

 

I think he's an option but there is probably a better option out there. It's early. May well be a much less well known person.

In what way is it bigoted? I would rather say "accurate". If Pete were straight, he would still be an ambitious nobody.  At his age, he might be toiling his way up the ranks of the state government.  Not saying he isn't a sharp young guy, but his defining characteristic definitely isn't his intellect or his experience.

6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

In what way is it bigoted? I would rather say "accurate". If Pete were straight, he would still be an ambitious nobody.  At his age, he might be toiling his way up the ranks of the state government.  Not saying he isn't a sharp young guy, but his defining characteristic definitely isn't his intellect or his experience.

I'll let you have the last (insulting, intolerant) word.

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'll let you have the last (insulting, intolerant) word.

That's probably a good idea my friend. Although I can't see anything insulting or intolerant that I wrote. 

23 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

In what way is it bigoted? I would rather say "accurate". If Pete were straight, he would still be an ambitious nobody.  At his age, he might be toiling his way up the ranks of the state government.  Not saying he isn't a sharp young guy, but his defining characteristic definitely isn't his intellect or his experience.

He graduated Harvard magna cum laude, won a Rhodes scholarship and graduated Oxford with first class honours.

 

It is ridiculous to claim his intellect is not his defining characteristic.

 

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He graduated Harvard magna cum laude, won a Rhodes scholarship and graduated Oxford with first class honours.

 

It is ridiculous to claim his intellect is not his defining characteristic.

 

Sure. Keep telling yourself that. 

3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Sure. Keep telling yourself that. 

I don’t need to keep telling myself anything.

 

Pete Buttigeig’s excellent academic achievements are a matter of public record, his intellect clearly displayed when he speaks.

 

And that’s a thing, we can very reasonably come to judgement of others on the basis of what they say.

 

Like I said before, no doubt the Secretary is a sharp guy.  And I agree we can judge others on the basis of what they say. Like the current occupant of the White House, for example...

 

 

8 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Like I said before, no doubt the Secretary is a sharp guy.  And I agree we can judge others on the basis of what they say. Like the current occupant of the White House, for example...

 

 

Here’s the take away:

 

More women than men register to vote.

 

More women than men vote.

 

Now who’s rights are being curtailed and who is it doing the curtailing?

 

https://cawp.rutgers.edu/facts/voters/gender-differences-voter-turnout

 

 

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Here’s the take away:

 

More women than men register to vote.

 

More women than men vote.

 

Now who’s rights are being curtailed and who is it doing the curtailing?

 

https://cawp.rutgers.edu/facts/voters/gender-differences-voter-turnout

 

 

Nice shift from your original premise there.... Joe doesn't even know not to read the actual "prompts" on a teleprompter.  He is really mailing it in at this point.   Mrs. Biden isn't much better, she couldn't even pronounce "bodega" at a Latino meeting in Texas.

24 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Nice shift from your original premise there.... Joe doesn't even know not to read the actual "prompts" on a teleprompter.  He is really mailing it in at this point.   Mrs. Biden isn't much better, she couldn't even pronounce "bodega" at a Latino meeting in Texas.

It’s a nice switch back from your trolling ripped videos to the topic of this thread, GOP making mid term case for Biden.

 

Keep stamping on women’s rights, they are the majority of voters.

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s a nice switch back from your trolling ripped videos to the topic of this thread, GOP making mid term case for Biden.

 

Keep stamping on women’s rights, they are the majority of voters.

Really? According to Gallup, only 38% of women are in favour of abortion being completely unrestricted.  Most agree that some limits are needed, generally setting the limit at 15 weeks or thereabouts.  More critically, women see inflation and gas prices and the economy in general as more important issues.  

 

There is no "stamping on women's rights" happening at all. Unless you think most European countries also "stamp on women's rights"...

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

More critically, women see inflation and gas prices and the economy in general as more important issues

Ah, but those on the left can't/won't even define what a woman is ????

26 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Really? According to Gallup, only 38% of women are in favour of abortion being completely unrestricted.  Most agree that some limits are needed, generally setting the limit at 15 weeks or thereabouts.  More critically, women see inflation and gas prices and the economy in general as more important issues.  

 

There is no "stamping on women's rights" happening at all. Unless you think most European countries also "stamp on women's rights"...

Yes there most certainly is.

Stop gaslighting. 

 

 

19 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes there most certainly is.

Stop gaslighting. 

 

 

Since when is quoting polling data "gaslighting"?  

 

Here is more "gaslighting". The GOP is up by 8 points on the generic Congressional ballot. Doomsday for the Democrats. 

48 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Since when is quoting polling data "gaslighting"?

Just about anything and everything a conservative (or any non-liberal) says/posts in this forum is mostly deemed hateful, rude, and yes, even gaslighting, if you have any opinion counter to some....you will gets those type of responses.

1 hour ago, howlee101 said:

Just about anything and everything a conservative (or any non-liberal) says/posts in this forum is mostly deemed hateful, rude, and yes, even gaslighting, if you have any opinion counter to some....you will gets those type of responses.

No!

Each case is different.

 

He said 

 

 

There is no "stamping on women's rights" happening at all. 

 

We all know for a fact that is not true.

 

This isn't a matter of opinion.

Its a matter of FACT.

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2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Since when is quoting polling data "gaslighting"?  

 

Here is more "gaslighting". The GOP is up by 8 points on the generic Congressional ballot. Doomsday for the Democrats. 

No.

Not this slithering game.

Polls aren't reality.

You know that.

Roe vs Wade was struck down.

You know that.

 

You said:

 

There is no "stamping on women's rights" happening at all. 

 

That's wrong. We're not morons. Of course it's happening. FACT.

 

 

 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-overturns-abortion-rights-landmark-2022-06-24/

 

U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, ends constitutional right to abortion

 

WASHINGTON, June 24 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Friday overturned the landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling that recognized women's constitutional right to abortion, a decision condemned by President Joe Biden that will dramatically change life for millions of women in America and exacerbate growing tensions in a deeply polarized country.

The court, in a 6-3 ruling powered by its conservative majority, upheld a Republican-backed Mississippi law that bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. The vote was 5-4 to overturn Roe, with conservative Chief Justice John Roberts writing separately to say he would have upheld the Mississippi law without taking the additional step of erasing the Roe precedent altogether.

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25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

This isn't a matter of opinion.

But it's his opinion, or is he not allowed to have one in your world?

Just now, howlee101 said:

But it's his opinion, or is he not allowed to have one in your world?

It's not an opinion. Its gaslighting. To say women's rights have not been trampled when its a fully verifiable fact that they have that everyone can see.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

It's not an opinion. Its gaslighting. To say women's rights have not been trampled when its a fully verifiable fact that they have that everyone can see.

So your earlier statement "Of course hard core homophobes would never vote for him but they are mostly Republicans anyway."....that's not gaslighting, it's just your opinion.  As Dr. Evil would say "Right".

2 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

So your earlier statement "Of course hard core homophobes would never vote for him but they are mostly Republicans anyway."....that's not gaslighting, it's just your opinion.  As Dr. Evil would say "Right".

That is opinion based on basic logic. If a person hates gays they are obviously not likely to support a gay man for president. Anti gay politics is part of the republican brand. I see I erred using the word never. Some would of course.

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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

That is opinion based on basic logic. If a person hates gays they are obviously not likely to support a gay man for president. Anti gay politics is part of the republican brand. I see I erred using the word never. Some would of course.

That's right. Trump and the GOP are anti-gay. So anti gay in fact that they appointed the first ever openly gay cabinet member in US history!

 

And as you know, overturning Roe did not end abortion in the US. It is still possible to get an abortion from sea to sea.  It just gave the power back to the people. You ARE for democracy, aren't you?  

1 hour ago, howlee101 said:

But it's his opinion, or is he not allowed to have one in your world?

Exactly! In the World of Jingthing, you are either with him or gaslighting. Deviation is not accepted. Nor are uncomfortable truths. 

15 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

That's right. Trump and the GOP are anti-gay. So anti gay in fact that they appointed the first ever openly gay cabinet member in US history!

 

And as you know, overturning Roe did not end abortion in the US. It is still possible to get an abortion from sea to sea.  It just gave the power back to the people. You ARE for democracy, aren't you?  

Yes the Republicans are anti gay!

 

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/04/22/overview-of-over-300-anti-lgbtq-bills-in-2022/

 

 

POLITICS

Overview of over 300 anti-LGBTQ+ bills in 2022

As Republican politicians continue to push for limits to LGBTQ+ rights, many LGBTQ+ people & their allies promise to continue fighting

 

 

https://slate.com/podcasts/what-next/2022/07/the-trevor-project-on-anti-trans-legislation

 

 

The War on LGBTQ+ Rights

How The Trevor Project sees the impact of the GOP’s newly-introduced, anti-LGBTQ+ laws on American youth.

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Abortion is already banned in many states.

 

Why do you insist on doubling down on insipid gaslighting?

 

 

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