Rudy Giuliani, Lindsey Graham subpoenaed by grand jury in Trump election probe

 

The Georgia special grand jury hearing evidence in an investigation into possible 2020 election interference by former President Donald Trump and others has issued subpoenas to Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and key members of Trump's legal team, including Rudy Giuliani and John Eastman, NBC News has confirmed.

The Fulton County special grand jury also subpoenaed lawyers Jenna Ellis, Cleta Mitchell and Kenneth Chesebro, all of whom worked with Trump as he contested the election results.

The subpoenas were first reported by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution and obtained by NBC News.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/rudy-giuliani-lindsey-graham-subpoenaed-grand-jury-trump-election-prob-rcna36749

This tells us the Fulton County investigation is DEAD serious. It would be very surprising at this point if this doesn't lead to an indictment against Donald John Trump.

 

While indicting a former president is unprecedented and the historical significance of this happening can't be discounted, the environment is now ready for it to happen. The house select hearings led mostly by traditional right wing republicans has been BRILLIANT and recent polls show a strong majority of Americans support that Trump should be prosecuted.

 

He's very worried and he should be. 

 

Perhaps it would be better if he fled the country. I like the "America First" irony of that.

Edited July 5, 20224 yr by Jingthing

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

This tells us the Fulton County investigation is DEAD serious. It would be very surprising at this point if this doesn't lead to an indictment against Donald John Trump.

 

While indicting a former president is unprecedented and the historical significance of this happening can't be discounted, the environment is now ready for it to happen. The house select hearings led mostly by traditional right wing republicans has been BRILLIANT and recent polls show a strong majority of Americans support that Trump should be prosecuted.

 

He's very worried and he should be. 

 

Perhaps it would be better if he fled the country. I like the "America First" irony of that.

While I agree that this GA case is more likely to yield an indictment--very narrow scope, evidence clear, laws violated clear--it's just so painstakingly slow going.  When it comes to an ex-president, justice is clearly not swift.  And if Trump were to announce his run for the presidency, not sure if that would put a wrench into things.  Anyways, they need to get this thing moving towards closure and right soon. 

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

While I agree that this GA case is more likely to yield an indictment--very narrow scope, evidence clear, laws violated clear--it's just so painstakingly slow going.  When it comes to an ex-president, justice is clearly not swift.  And if Trump were to announce his run for the presidency, not sure if that would put a wrench into things.  Anyways, they need to get this thing moving towards closure and right soon. 

Well running for president doesn't change anything legally but it does change the optics. He probably will announce concurrent to indictments  I expect he will use his rallies as a bully pulpit to incite violence towards any prosecutors. That's how he rolls. He can't be brought to justice soon enough.

Edited July 6, 20224 yr by Jingthing

As usual they won't to find anything on Trump, as the Dems, really don't want Trump to run again as they know he will win in a landslide. Now if you are really looking for dirt look no further than Sleepy Joe and his family of thieves. But don't ask China to help as they just love Joe.

39 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

As usual they won't to find anything on Trump, as the Dems, really don't want Trump to run again as they know he will win in a landslide. Now if you are really looking for dirt look no further than Sleepy Joe and his family of thieves. But don't ask China to help as they just love Joe.

"They" won't find anything on Trump ?

Not unless they discover some incriminating evidence such as, hmmm, a phone call from Trump trying to coerce Raffensperger to change the election result without any legal basis.
Could such a call exist ? Would Orangutan man be so stupid as to be recorded saying “I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break.”  ?
Cos if they did find such self incriminating evidence, that could result in the violation of at least three Georgia statutes. Two of which are felonies and one a misdemeanor. Possibly he also violated Federal statutes as well.

He couldn't be that stupid could he  ?

52 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

As usual they won't to find anything on Trump, as the Dems, really don't want Trump to run again as they know he will win in a landslide. Now if you are really looking for dirt look no further than Sleepy Joe and his family of thieves. But don't ask China to help as they just love Joe.

Let your imagination run wild and assume that he would really win. What would that tell you ? That Trump is a good president ? Try to think hard about that to find the truth for yourself.

Trump will use this to grift hundreds of millions of dollars from his cult followers. Money is the only thing he cares about. He has a lot of debts to pay off.

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

As usual they won't to find anything on Trump, as the Dems, really don't want Trump to run again as they know he will win in a landslide. Now if you are really looking for dirt look no further than Sleepy Joe and his family of thieves. But don't ask China to help as they just love Joe.

Come on! The best thing which could happen to the Dems is Trump candidating in 2024.

6 minutes ago, Luuk Chaai said:

PROBE ?  let's see,, what could they possibly find ..   vote harvesting?  .. ballots being changed in the middle of the night ? you really thing sleepy basement Joe,, and cackling word salad kamel got more legit votes than Trump ?   They can't even buy a lie that works ( Clinton Dirty Dossier )

Keep paying $6 for gas,  and the 8.6 inflation rate check out your grocery bill,  a Southern border that lets any fentanyl carrying mule waltz right in, hey we will even give you health benefits and send you to school.  don't forget Billy Gates buying up thousands of acres of farmland ( food shortage )

and note that a Chinese firm  just purchased a chunk of land near Gates that sits near a US  Drone technology site

and..  where's Hunter ?  you know..  the  son of the  Big Guy ?

You forgot pizzagate! ????

12 minutes ago, Luuk Chaai said:

PROBE ?  let's see,, what could they possibly find ..   vote harvesting?  .. ballots being changed in the middle of the night ? you really thing sleepy basement Joe,, and cackling word salad kamel got more legit votes than Trump ?   They can't even buy a lie that works ( Clinton Dirty Dossier )

Keep paying $6 for gas,  and the 8.6 inflation rate check out your grocery bill,  a Southern border that lets any fentanyl carrying mule waltz right in, hey we will even give you health benefits and send you to school.  don't forget Billy Gates buying up thousands of acres of farmland ( food shortage )

and note that a Chinese firm  just purchased a chunk of land near Gates that sits near a US  Drone technology site

and..  where's Hunter ?  you know..  the  son of the  Big Guy ?

Wow, you managed to cover all the nutty conspiracies cooked up by the nuttiest right wing crazies.  Do you actually believe this stuff?  With zero evidence?  I do hope you manage to return to the real world one day.  An alternate reality world can be rather unsatisfying.

13 minutes ago, Luuk Chaai said:

PROBE ?  let's see,, what could they possibly find ..   vote harvesting?  .. ballots being changed in the middle of the night ? you really thing sleepy basement Joe,, and cackling word salad kamel got more legit votes than Trump ?   They can't even buy a lie that works ( Clinton Dirty Dossier )

Keep paying $6 for gas,  and the 8.6 inflation rate check out your grocery bill,  a Southern border that lets any fentanyl carrying mule waltz right in, hey we will even give you health benefits and send you to school.  don't forget Billy Gates buying up thousands of acres of farmland ( food shortage )

and note that a Chinese firm  just purchased a chunk of land near Gates that sits near a US  Drone technology site

and..  where's Hunter ?  you know..  the  son of the  Big Guy ?

Appears someone watched the mockumentary "2000 Fools" and believed it.
Just keep donating to his "Official Election Defense Fund", so the grifter can continue to syphon off the money for his own use, before he announces his candidacy and then comes under financial scrutiny.

Get that parasite Giuliani in jail where he belongs.

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

As usual they won't to find anything on Trump, as the Dems, really don't want Trump to run again as they know he will win in a landslide. Now if you are really looking for dirt look no further than Sleepy Joe and his family of thieves. But don't ask China to help as they just love Joe.

They same Joe that just told China it would support Taiwan militarily? The Chinese love him?

3 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

Get that parasite Giuliani in jail where he belongs.

You forgotten to add craven Lindsey and crazy Eastman.

1 hour ago, Luuk Chaai said:

PROBE ?  let's see,, what could they possibly find ..   vote harvesting?  .. ballots being changed in the middle of the night ? you really thing sleepy basement Joe,, and cackling word salad kamel got more legit votes than Trump ?   They can't even buy a lie that works ( Clinton Dirty Dossier )

Keep paying $6 for gas,  and the 8.6 inflation rate check out your grocery bill,  a Southern border that lets any fentanyl carrying mule waltz right in, hey we will even give you health benefits and send you to school.  don't forget Billy Gates buying up thousands of acres of farmland ( food shortage )

and note that a Chinese firm  just purchased a chunk of land near Gates that sits near a US  Drone technology site

and..  where's Hunter ?  you know..  the  son of the  Big Guy ?

I hope you have not taken a full plunge into that Trump's rabbit hole like Stacy Blatt who was in hospice care and went online and chipped in everything he could after listening to Rush Limbaugh's grift for donation to Trump's campaign. That small donation of $500 quickly multiplied every week until he cant even pay for his utility and rent payment and he has to called his brother for help.  

Let me guess…… 5th amendment, lots of 5th amendment.

 

‘Bump stocks’ on the 5th amendment:

3 hours ago, vandeventer said:

As usual they won't to find anything on Trump, as the Dems, really don't want Trump to run again as they know he will win in a landslide. Now if you are really looking for dirt look no further than Sleepy Joe and his family of thieves. But don't ask China to help as they just love Joe.

Ham sandwich will beat Trump into another bigly loss. He will tease and keep the donations for himself as long as he doesn't formally announce. He could not accept another humiliating loss. Best you send another 500 dollars sir.  I made a bet with Cryingdick here and notice she has never been back since the Biden win

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

They same Joe that just told China it would support Taiwan militarily? The Chinese love him?

Words with no meaning! I am sure the WH corrected him as they usually do when he talks this BS. 

3 hours ago, moogradod said:

Let your imagination run wild and assume that he would really win. What would that tell you ? That Trump is a good president ? Try to think hard about that to find the truth for yourself.

My retirement savings says Trump was a far superior president than groping Joe. The economy, our border security and more than all our health as a democratic republic was much better under Trump.

8 minutes ago, rgraham said:

My retirement savings says Trump was a far superior president than groping Joe. The economy, our border security and more than all our health as a democratic republic was much better under Trump.

"......and more than all our health as a democratic republic was much better under Trump."

He say about the criminal traitor that, due to his overblown ego, tried to instigate a coup!

????????????

Someday this series of kangaroo courts has to wind things up. The allowance of hearsay testimony is sad to no end. There is a faction that just hates the arrogance of Donald Trump, and they just keep up the stabbing at him with charges that are never backed up with facts. The Russia connection they accused him of ended up being with Obama/Hillary and really backfired. All of the impeachment proceedings failed to return a conviction simply because they found no proof of wrongdoing except for the opposing party. Looking back, I would much preferred DJT to the catastrophe we are in now. My retirement savings, which are invested mainly in core domestic industries, have lost over 45% of their value since February 2021. During the four years that DJT was leader of the USA my investments had appreciated 38%. I am no admirer of DJT personally, but he was a much better leader than Biden or Obama.

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

As usual they won't to find anything on Trump, as the Dems, really don't want Trump to run again as they know he will win in a landslide. Now if you are really looking for dirt look no further than Sleepy Joe and his family of thieves. But don't ask China to help as they just love Joe.

Ahem.... China seem to disagree with you

Beijing accuses United States of creating 'anti-China' alliance as it lashes New Zealand and US for 'hype-up' over Pacific

https://www.skynews.com.au/world-news/china/beijing-accuses-united-states-of-creating-antichina-alliance-as-it-lashes-new-zealand-and-us-for-hypeup-over-pacific/news-story/57a23c3bd704a0c533a2e73e43245136

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

As usual they won't to find anything on Trump, as the Dems, really don't want Trump to run again as they know he will win in a landslide. Now if you are really looking for dirt look no further than Sleepy Joe and his family of thieves. But don't ask China to help as they just love Joe.

Already found a long time ago.

It's hard to help people that live in alternative facts landia.

Trump would be the easiest republican to beat. He's deeply damaged goods.

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Already found a long time ago.

It's hard to help people that live in alternative facts landia.

Trump would be the easiest republican to beat. He's deeply damaged goods.

You must be talking about Biden As 89% of Americans and 78% of Democrats thinks America is going down the drain with Biden and his party of reprobates

47 minutes ago, rgraham said:

Someday this series of kangaroo courts has to wind things up. The allowance of hearsay testimony is sad to no end. There is a faction that just hates the arrogance of Donald Trump, and they just keep up the stabbing at him with charges that are never backed up with facts. The Russia connection they accused him of ended up being with Obama/Hillary and really backfired. All of the impeachment proceedings failed to return a conviction simply because they found no proof of wrongdoing except for the opposing party. Looking back, I would much preferred DJT to the catastrophe we are in now. My retirement savings, which are invested mainly in core domestic industries, have lost over 45% of their value since February 2021. During the four years that DJT was leader of the USA my investments had appreciated 38%. I am no admirer of DJT personally, but he was a much better leader than Biden or Obama.

You have much in common with Trump. All about himself and your investment that matters. 

5 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

You must be talking about Biden As 89% of Americans and 78% of Democrats thinks America is going down the drain with Biden and his party of reprobates

I was not. Biden probably won't be running. Trump probably won't be nominated. 

1 hour ago, rgraham said:

Someday this series of kangaroo courts has to wind things up. The allowance of hearsay testimony is sad to no end. There is a faction that just hates the arrogance of Donald Trump, and they just keep up the stabbing at him with charges that are never backed up with facts. The Russia connection they accused him of ended up being with Obama/Hillary and really backfired. All of the impeachment proceedings failed to return a conviction simply because they found no proof of wrongdoing except for the opposing party. Looking back, I would much preferred DJT to the catastrophe we are in now. My retirement savings, which are invested mainly in core domestic industries, have lost over 45% of their value since February 2021. During the four years that DJT was leader of the USA my investments had appreciated 38%. I am no admirer of DJT personally, but he was a much better leader than Biden or Obama.

I suggest some reading:

 

1. Read the OP, this isn’t a ‘kangaroo court’ it’s a grand jury.

 

Grand Juries have only one purpose.

 

2. Read the Constitution, you’ll find there the purpose of Grand Juries.

1 hour ago, rgraham said:

My retirement savings says Trump was a far superior president than groping Joe. The economy, our border security and more than all our health as a democratic republic was much better under Trump.

Really. How was the economy in 2020?

8 hours ago, vandeventer said:

As usual they won't to find anything on Trump, as the Dems, really don't want Trump to run again as they know he will win in a landslide. Now if you are really looking for dirt look no further than Sleepy Joe and his family of thieves. But don't ask China to help as they just love Joe.

They've already found that Trump did nothing to call off his mob when the Capitol was under attack.  Don't you think that's something?

 

BTW, judging by China's reaction to the Quad 4, Biden's commitments to defend Taiwan, his improving relations with Japan and South Korea, etc, I don't think they love Joe.