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I have to agree that there is a difference. Mooham's incident was malaicious intent, whereas this although very reclkess, appears to havce been a genuine mistake. However, it does perturb me somewhat, that he chose to flee the scene of the accident initially. Either way, both have resulted in deaths of inocent people. One, would probably be classed as manslaughter, whilst the other (mooham's) is clearly murder.

Sad storeis, both of them and unlikely to be any significant penalties for either.

Why use the word 'accident'? This implies that no person is to blame, clearly the blame lies squarely on the drivers shoulders.

Okay, if you want to be pedantic then fine. I think that the use of the word "accident" is more than satisfactory. Go and wind up neeranam about snakes. :o

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No accident doesnt imply that at all. If I get rear ended by the driver behind me it is his fault, however "I was just in a car accident" is how I would describe the incident. I would not label it as "I was just the vicitm of a vehicle assault". Not trying to be difficult, just the use of the word accident is often used to describe things like this and it never implies that someone wasn't at fault, someones almost ALWAYS at fault heh.

Damian Mavis

Not trying to be difficult either, but it would be a traffic collision not accident.

Pointing the finger is so easy. Should you one day be the perpetrator of a traffic collision non accident, I surely hope you are not also unlucky enough to be a manslaughter perpetrator also whatever you are really trying to say, it's pointless. Having been a long time friend of Noom's I know that he has a pure heart and is doing all that is humanly possible to amend for the loss he has created for this family. If this was to be 50 yrs in solitary confinement judge Acquience would decree in his wisdom, believe me, Noom would do it........ I dare say more than you would!

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Maybe it's time to reopen the Coliseum. Or perhaps build a few more as I can see a strong demand for it.

I wonder if these people have made mistakes in their lives? Do they have children? I am quite sure they don't.

It seems to me that these people don't quite have the idea how easy it is to make mistakes in life. They'd better pray they don't.

And I have learnt something, traffic collisions are different from traffic accidents. :o

Traffic collision involves cars colliding without drivers whilst traffic accidents involves human beings.

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What's more dissapointing, is that this thread is being debated so much, whereby the defendent has shown remorse and some responsibility. Whereas that sack of <deleted> Mooham and his cretinous family are not being debated on the other thread.

Maybe, it's time that one was bumped back up to the top.

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Having been a long time friend of Noom's I know that he has a pure heart and is doing all that is humanly possible to amend for the loss he has created for this family.

Are we to presume then that he intends to plead guilty to the criminal charges of reckless driving causing death, property damage, and fleeing the scene of an accident in order to spare the family the trauma of attending and testifying in court?

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Doesn't matter to me how well he behaved following his wreckless driving incident. His original story showed the man is simply full of sh!t, plus he fled the scene.

Noom and Mooham should still both go to Jail, but they should also be made to pay significant damages as well, and by significant I mean something that would actually hurt them financially, not some little bit of pocket change.

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Having been a long time friend of Noom's I know that he has a pure heart and is doing all that is humanly possible to amend for the loss he has created for this family.

Are we to presume then that he intends to plead guilty to the criminal charges of reckless driving causing death, property damage, and fleeing the scene of an accident in order to spare the family the trauma of attending and testifying in court?

I would wager a bet that it is at this point Noons definition of 'humanly possible' and 'financialy possible' become some what blurred.

I hope i'm wrong, let's wait and see.

jayjayjayjay as you are such a close friend maybe you can advise? :o

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Having been a long time friend of Noom's I know that he has a pure heart and is doing all that is humanly possible to amend for the loss he has created for this family.

Are we to presume then that he intends to plead guilty to the criminal charges of reckless driving causing death, property damage, and fleeing the scene of an accident in order to spare the family the trauma of attending and testifying in court?

I would wager a bet that it is at this point Noons definition of 'humanly possible' and 'financialy possible' become some what blurred.

I hope i'm wrong, let's wait and see.

jayjayjayjay as you are such a close friend maybe you can advise? :o

Visit the family concerned yourself and I will not have to answer this question. They are still saddened by the loss but are not willing to raise a civil case against Noom because of his continued contact and contribution to the husband and family members.

As for pleading guilty to police charges, this is not a mater of conscience and (I) believe you are all smart enough to understand why!

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Having been a long time friend of Noom's I know that he has a pure heart and is doing all that is humanly possible to amend for the loss he has created for this family.

Are we to presume then that he intends to plead guilty to the criminal charges of reckless driving causing death, property damage, and fleeing the scene of an accident in order to spare the family the trauma of attending and testifying in court?

Visit the family concerned yourself and I will not have to answer this question. They are still saddened by the loss but are not willing to raise a civil case against Noom because of his continued contact and contribution to the husband and family members.

As for pleading guilty to police charges, this is not a mater of conscience and (I) believe you are all smart enough to understand why!

Are we to presume then that he DOES NOT intend to plead guilty to the criminal charges of reckless driving causing death, property damage, and fleeing the scene of an accident in order to spare the family the trauma of attending and testifying in court?

Oh well, so much for his "pure heart"...

My continued condolences to the bereaved family at the loss of their family member killed by Noom.

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I have cleaned out a large number of off-topic posts from this thread.

For everyone's information this is a thread about "actor kills garbage collector in car crash" it is not debate about using actual names, football stands, toads or anything else.

If any of those topics are of such fascination that you feel would benefit from discussed - feel free to create another thread specifically for them.

Secondly - calling people names such as "stupid" is not acceptable under TV rules and will be dealt with accordingly

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Crow Boy

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That is a terrible thing to happen!! But I guess Thailand works as United States, if you are rich and famous, you will get away with it. Can just hope though, that justice will be made.

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Having been a long time friend of Noom's I know that he has a pure heart and is doing all that is humanly possible to amend for the loss he has created for this family.

Are we to presume then that he intends to plead guilty to the criminal charges of reckless driving causing death, property damage, and fleeing the scene of an accident in order to spare the family the trauma of attending and testifying in court?

I would wager a bet that it is at this point Noons definition of 'humanly possible' and 'financialy possible' become some what blurred.

I hope i'm wrong, let's wait and see.

jayjayjayjay as you are such a close friend maybe you can advise? :o

Visit the family concerned yourself and I will not have to answer this question. They are still saddened by the loss but are not willing to raise a civil case against Noom because of his continued contact and contribution to the husband and family members.

As for pleading guilty to police charges, this is not a mater of conscience and (I) believe you are all smart enough to understand why!

I think you have to accept that there are very very bad people in this world and there are also the very very good like sacred people.

I don't think they even know themselves that they are creating as much pain as the very very bad people. Really sad.

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I doubt he will be charged with anything. He'll probably get away with paying some pocket money to the family of the woman killed. They'll be happy and he will be too. The judge's wife would kill him for jailing her favorite soap opera star. Besides that, he's a movie star. Movie stars can't be jailed!!

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Having been a long time friend of Noom's I know that he has a pure heart and is doing all that is humanly possible to amend for the loss he has created for this family.

Are we to presume then that he intends to plead guilty to the criminal charges of reckless driving causing death, property damage, and fleeing the scene of an accident in order to spare the family the trauma of attending and testifying in court?

I would wager a bet that it is at this point Noons definition of 'humanly possible' and 'financialy possible' become some what blurred.

I hope i'm wrong, let's wait and see.

jayjayjayjay as you are such a close friend maybe you can advise? :o

Visit the family concerned yourself and I will not have to answer this question. They are still saddened by the loss but are not willing to raise a civil case against Noom because of his continued contact and contribution to the husband and family members.

As for pleading guilty to police charges, this is not a mater of conscience and (I) believe you are all smart enough to understand why!

I think you have to accept that there are very very bad people in this world and there are also the very very good like sacred people.

I don't think they even know themselves that they are creating as much pain as the very very bad people. Really sad.

Point taken Meemiathai :D

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UPDATE

Actor to be sentenced on Dec 11

The Criminal Court set December 11 for the sentencing of actor Sornram Theppitak after the Office of the Attorney General filed a lawsuit against him yesterday for reckless driving causing death and damage to property.

The lawsuit states that Sornram drove recklessly and then crashed his BMW car, killing garbage collector Pitploen Takoma, 58, in Soi Sena Nikhom in Bangkok's Lat Phrao district on the night of June 20.

Sornram has confessed to the incident and paid compensation to the deceased's family.

A doctor at Wichaiyuth Hospital who treated the actor for a nosebleed after the accident reported that Sornram was exhausted from lack of sleep and had taken a flu medicine prior to the accident, but there was no trace of alcohol in his body.

The court assigned probation officers to submit a report on the actor's background and character within 15 days that will be considered along with his confession.

Sornram was granted bail at Bt120,000, for which his mother, Mayuree, put up title deeds to land worth 1.4 million baht as a guarantee.

The actor, who was accompanied to court yesterday by his mother and lawyer, said he was not worried.

Lawyer Manas Nakrak said he believed the court would show leniency and let Sornram off lightly as he had confessed and paid 500,000 baht to Pitploen's family, who gave him a signed statement that they were satisfied. Sornram also paid the expenses for the ordination of Pitploen's husband and for a Buddha statue engraved with her name at Wat Sa Ket, he said.

- The Nation

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The value of the human life he killed = 8,620 baht per year or 23 baht per day.

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The actor, who was accompanied to court yesterday by his mother and lawyer, said he was not worried.

Lawyer Manas Nakrak said he believed the court would show leniency and let Sornram off lightly

The arrogance of this 'man' is sickening. :o

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Yet again the Thai justice system loses what credibility it already has.

He killed someone! An accident or not he must be punished with a minimum jail sentence for reckless driving, driving under the influence of an intoxicating substance, driving when tired and fleeing the scene!

This is a nation of children with no idea of the concept of responsibility.

:D

:o

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The value of the human life he killed = 8,620 baht per year or 23 baht per day.

What should this value be? What do you think a life should be worth?

Don't forget it was an accident. There was no malicious intent here.

In actual fact the family is lucky she was killed by someone with money. It could have been much worse.

It reminds me of a tragedy in a small town in the Philippines last year.

My GF's mother was riding in a trike when a wheel buckled resulting in a young girl (13) falling out and being run over and killed by a passing jeep. The girl's family received compensation of $2,000 and were more than satisfied. My GF's mother received a minor head injury and had to pay her own hospital bill.

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Don't forget it was an accident. There was no malicious intent here.

Yes, an accident which could have been avoided, he was suffering from sleep deprevation and had taken a flu medicine prior to driving. He might as well have downed a bottle of whisky.

In actual fact the family is lucky she was killed by someone with money. It could have been much worse.

Yeh, real lucky. :o

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Don't forget it was an accident. There was no malicious intent here.

Yes, an accident which could have been avoided, he was suffering from sleep deprevation and had taken a flu medicine prior to driving. He might as well have downed a bottle of whisky.

In actual fact the family is lucky she was killed by someone with money. It could have been much worse.

Yeh, real lucky. :o

Yes, very lucky indeed.

What are the chances of being killed by someone with money in Thailand? How many people are killed everyday on Bangkok's roads? How many families receive suitable compensation?

Sleep deprivation? Are you joking? How many tired people drive everday? How many people take flu medicine and drive.

It was an accident. Get over it.

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It was a very avoidable accident, he was reckless in his actions, and did he flee the scene by accident also?

All accidents can be avoided with hind-sight.

Fortunately Thais can usually get on with their lives without disecting a tradegy forever after.

I think this has ended up well and he's made peace with the family.

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It was a very avoidable accident, he was reckless in his actions, and did he flee the scene by accident also?

All accidents can be avoided with hind-sight.

Fortunately Thais can usually get on with their lives without disecting a tradegy forever after.

I think this has ended up well and he's made peace with the family.

Which accident are you people talking about there?

I thought this thread was about a collision?

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Discusting

Can someone explain the meaning of this post for me?

The last time i responded to you in this thread i was suspended for 3 days therfore i will not be responding to the moderators pet anymore.

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Let's imagine if this actor were in our hands, let's suggest some ways of how to torture him! What can we think about?

But remember we not use our own hands to do the job. We get someone else to do it coz we are good people and we do not want to make our hands dirty.

I am so glad that there are these kind people in this world. They have such great sense of justice! Well done! The world is getting more beautiful each day! Just because of you! :o

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