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Former President Donald Trump said in a statement Wednesday that he invoked the Fifth Amendment during his deposition under oath as part of the New York attorney general's civil investigation into the Trump Organization's finances.

In the lengthy statement, Trump blasted New York Attorney General Letitia James as politically motivated and alleged he "did nothing wrong."

"I once asked, 'If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?' Now I know the answer to that question," Trump wrote in announcing his decision to invoke his right against self-incrimination. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/08/10/trump-deposition-new-york-investigation/10284763002/

Lock him up!

Former President Donald Trump may lose the "crown jewels" of the heir's corporate empire if New York Attorney General Letitia James moves to invoke New York's "corporate death penalty" against the Trump Organization, according to a new report.

 

"This is a civil case — so the court can draw an inference of liability. This is exactly what the AG was hoping to achieve. The case is now even stronger," he wrote.

"In a civil case, pleading the Fifth is effectively a confession," Snell claimed.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/crown-jewels-ny-ag-may-seek-corporate-death-penalty-for-trump-tower-and-all-his-golf-courses/

In an earlier case, Donald's WH attorney Dowd warned the habitual liar Donald Trump against testifying,

“Don’t testify. It’s either that or an orange jumpsuit.”

 

When Trump replied that he would be a good witness, Dowd replied, “I’m afraid I just can’t help you,” and resigned the next day.

"The mob takes the fifth."

 

 

 

2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

"The mob takes the fifth."

 

 

He makes a fool of himself every time he speaks and he never shuts up.

 

If Trump has a scintilla of principle I guess he's going to apologize to Clinton any day now, since he has had an epiphany about the 5th.

There is an upside, he didn't shoot anyone on Fifth Avenue during his visit to Manhattan for this deposition.

 

Trump also appears to have lost his tax release battle with the IRS/Congress.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-09/trump-s-tax-returns-can-be-released-to-congress-court-rules

 

So a tough week, legally, for the ex-president.

 

Trump citing the 5th hands the NY AG the ammunition to dismantle Trump’s business interests in and connected through NY.

 

Trump has chosen that over criminal prosecution.

 

But that’s no guarantee that criminal prosecution will not follow.

Trump is a clown, a disrupted clown at it, Lock him up

35 minutes ago, vinci said:

Trump is a clown, a disrupted clown at it, Lock him up

Can we wait until he commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first? I realize that the sheer hatred against Donald Trump is such that most of the left just want him locked up without reason, or just because "they know" he is guilty of unspecified crimes, but without due process just locking him up would be a sign the USA is in fact a banana republic(which some of us realize after this fishing expedition and storming of Trumps home on flimsy excuses).

 

 What stands out to me most, is that this visceral hatred of Trump is for such reasons that he cheated Mrs Clinton out of her win because he colluded with Vladimir Putin to cheat in the 2016 election, he got peed on by hookers in a bed that Barack Obama slept in when he was on a Russian trip, he called the military "suckers and losers", he forced his way on to Stormy Daniels, his supporters put a noose around the neck of and sprayed bleach onto a young LGBT black actor, and on and on. Sounds like such a terrible guy. Yet all these reasons for hatred were all hoaxes. All big fat lies ginned up to smear Donald Trump and cause those without well developed critical thinking skills to blindly hate the man.

 

And here we are. Good luck Mr Trump.

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can we wait until he commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first? I realize that the sheer hatred against Donald Trump is such that most of the left just want him locked up without reason, or just because "they know" he is guilty of unspecified crimes, but without due process just locking him up would be a sign the USA is in fact a banana republic(which some of us realize after this fishing expedition and storming of Trumps home on flimsy excuses).

 

 What stands out to me most, is that this visceral hatred of Trump is for such reasons that he cheated Mrs Clinton out of her win because he colluded with Vladimir Putin to cheat in the 2016 election, he got peed on by hookers in a bed that Barack Obama slept in when he was on a Russian trip, he called the military "suckers and losers", he forced his way on to Stormy Daniels, his supporters put a noose around the neck of and sprayed bleach onto a young LGBT black actor, and on and on. Sounds like such a terrible guy. Yet all these reasons for hatred were all hoaxes. All big fat lies ginned up to smear Donald Trump and cause those without well developed critical thinking skills to blindly hate the man.

 

And here we are. Good luck Mr Trump.

He has committed many crimes as a citizen and has been sentenced for that.

...........................and I thought Richard Nixon was really bad!

5 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can we wait until he commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first?

He got his chance for a fair trial in the NY civil case but yet he plead the Fifth. By doing that, he admitted guilt. His own admission that " ïf you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment". 

2 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can we wait until he commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first? I realize that the sheer hatred against Donald Trump is such that most of the left just want him locked up without reason, or just because "they know" he is guilty of unspecified crimes, but without due process just locking him up would be a sign the USA is in fact a banana republic(which some of us realize after this fishing expedition and storming of Trumps home on flimsy excuses).

 

 What stands out to me most, is that this visceral hatred of Trump is for such reasons that he cheated Mrs Clinton out of her win because he colluded with Vladimir Putin to cheat in the 2016 election, he got peed on by hookers in a bed that Barack Obama slept in when he was on a Russian trip, he called the military "suckers and losers", he forced his way on to Stormy Daniels, his supporters put a noose around the neck of and sprayed bleach onto a young LGBT black actor, and on and on. Sounds like such a terrible guy. Yet all these reasons for hatred were all hoaxes. All big fat lies ginned up to smear Donald Trump and cause those without well developed critical thinking skills to blindly hate the man.

 

And here we are. Good luck Mr Trump.

 And speaking of waiting until someone "commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first..."

 

Where are all of the arrests?’: Trump demands Barr lock up his foes

Donald Trump mounted an overnight Twitter blitz demanding to jail his political enemies and call out allies he says are failing to arrest his rivals swiftly enough.

Trump twice amplified supporters’ criticisms of Attorney General William Barr, including one featuring a meme calling on him to “arrest somebody!”

“DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, THE BIGGEST OF ALL POLITICAL SCANDALS (IN HISTORY)!!! BIDEN, OBAMA AND CROOKED HILLARY LED THIS TREASONOUS PLOT!!! BIDEN SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO RUN - GOT CAUGHT!!!” Trump tweeted.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/07/trump-demands-barr-arrest-foes-427389

 

Trump refuses to apologize to Central Park Five: ‘They admitted their guilt’

Trump in 1989 took out full-page ads in New York newspapers calling for the death penalty against the five boys, aged 14 to 16, who were later convicted of raping and assaulting a young woman jogging in Central Park in what became a high-profile case.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/449181-trump-refuses-to-apologize-to-central-park-five-they-admitted-their/

A smart move. Anyone with decent legal advice would do the same thing.

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can we wait until he commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first?

Did Trump wait until Hilary was sentenced for crime first before firing up the base with his chants of "Lock Her Up"?

 

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

I realize that the sheer hatred against Donald Trump is such that most of the left just want him locked up without reason, or just because "they know" he is guilty of unspecified crimes, but without due process just locking him up would be a sign the USA is in fact a banana republic(which some of us realize after this fishing expedition and storming of Trumps home on flimsy excuses).

 

 What stands out to me most, is that this visceral hatred of Trump is for such reasons that he cheated Mrs Clinton out of her win because he colluded with Vladimir Putin to cheat in the 2016 election, he got peed on by hookers in a bed that Barack Obama slept in when he was on a Russian trip, he called the military "suckers and losers", he forced his way on to Stormy Daniels, his supporters put a noose around the neck of and sprayed bleach onto a young LGBT black actor, and on and on. Sounds like such a terrible guy. Yet all these reasons for hatred were all hoaxes. All big fat lies ginned up to smear Donald Trump and cause those without well developed critical thinking skills to blindly hate the man.

 

And here we are. Good luck Mr Trump.

 

17 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

A smart move. Anyone with decent legal advice would do the same thing.

For a criminal case, certainly.  Especially if you're guilty.  But for a civil case, the jury can assume "adverse inferences" if the defendant takes the 5th.  Meaning, the jury can assume that the reason Trump didn't answer a certain question is because his answer would be unfavorable for him. 

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Can we wait until he commits a crime, has a fair trial, and gets sentenced first? I realize that the sheer hatred against Donald Trump is such that most of the left just want him locked up without reason, or just because "they know" he is guilty of unspecified crimes, but without due process just locking him up would be a sign the USA is in fact a banana republic(which some of us realize after this fishing expedition and storming of Trumps home on flimsy excuses).

 

 What stands out to me most, is that this visceral hatred of Trump is for such reasons that he cheated Mrs Clinton out of her win because he colluded with Vladimir Putin to cheat in the 2016 election, he got peed on by hookers in a bed that Barack Obama slept in when he was on a Russian trip, he called the military "suckers and losers", he forced his way on to Stormy Daniels, his supporters put a noose around the neck of and sprayed bleach onto a young LGBT black actor, and on and on. Sounds like such a terrible guy. Yet all these reasons for hatred were all hoaxes. All big fat lies ginned up to smear Donald Trump and cause those without well developed critical thinking skills to blindly hate the man.

 

And here we are. Good luck Mr Trump.

And of course it wasn't him in the video about taking the 5th. Alex Baldwin's portrayal of Trump is really good isn't it?

30 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

For a criminal case, certainly.  Especially if you're guilty.  But for a civil case, the jury can assume "adverse inferences" if the defendant takes the 5th.  Meaning, the jury can assume that the reason Trump didn't answer a certain question is because his answer would be unfavorable for him. 

Especially when he himself has said that those taking the 5th are guilty! ????

A post baiting another member has been reported and removed. 

 

Also off topic posts and replies about Joe Biden

2 minutes ago, Thailand said:

Apparently a whistleblower  told the FBi where the skeletons were hidden. Guess they will be on display soon.

Yes, there have been suggestions that the safe was empty , so I expect the FBI will soon make an announcement showing they found something as soon as they can .

  I keep checking the news stations for an update of what they have found  . Nothing there yet

39 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

For a criminal case, certainly.  Especially if you're guilty.  But for a civil case, the jury can assume "adverse inferences" if the defendant takes the 5th.  Meaning, the jury can assume that the reason Trump didn't answer a certain question is because his answer would be unfavorable for him. 

I’m sure Trump’s lawyers legal qualifications exceed your own.

 

If they have advised him to take the 5th, they have probably considered the points you raised ????

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

I’m sure Trump’s lawyers legal qualifications exceed your own.

 

If they have advised him to take the 5th, they have probably considered the points you raised ????

You're right, his lawyers probably did advice him, after all they know how many times he lies everyday so taking the 5th was probably a better bet

10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, there have been suggestions that the safe was empty , so I expect the FBI will soon make an announcement showing they found something as soon as they can .

  I keep checking the news stations for an update of what they have found  . Nothing there yet

Where? I haven't read that. How very Trumpian, implying a fact without evidence.

 

What's the liklihood that a billionaire in a hundred room mansion has an empty safe?

Edited August 11, 20223 yr by ozimoron

Just now, ozimoron said:

where? I haven't read that. How very Trumpian, implying a fact without evidence.

Havent you been following the news ?

Trumps Son Eric has claimed the safe was empty .

Wasn't that story reported in the Guardian ?

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Havent you been following the news ?

Trumps Son Eric has claimed the safe was empty .

Wasn't that story reported in the Guardian ?

I don't know. I asked you for a link which you are required to do under the rules of this forum.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

A smart move. Anyone with decent legal advice would do the same thing.

Ahhhh... the famous neutrality! ????????

10 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Trump's son Eric has claimed the safe was empty.

Phew, I was worried that the news of an empty safe came from a biased source...

 

Patience grasshopper.