non-o retirement deposit certificate and foreign currency transfer

[vento]

Im trying to get an retirement extension. I am on a visa exempt now, and money is in the bank. on the emigration website I now read this

5.1 Present passbook and deposit certificate from banks in Thailand (in Thai language (Attention: Immigration Commissioner))

5.3 Evidence of foreign currency fund transferred toThailand

 

I don't have this.. about 500k was deposited in cash, the rest was sent from abroad. the money I brought into Thailand in Cash

 

What is deposit certificate? I mean, there is an entry in the bankbook? that's not enough?

And how do I proof my cash deposit come from abroad? that's going to be almost impossible

 

I am in Chonburi/pattaya if that makes any difference

 

Any advice would be appreciated :)

 

[DrJack54]

6 minutes ago, vento said:

And how do I proof my cash deposit come from abroad?

How long has the money been in the bank. 

[vento]

10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

How long has the money been in the bank. 

about 2 weeks, deposited them after my last entry and I have a deposit slip in my name if that makes any difference

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, vento said:

about 2 weeks, deposited them after my last entry and I have a deposit slip in my name if that makes any difference

So how were the funds transfered.

[vento]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

So how were the funds transfered.

the 200k ish was transferred from abroad, the 100k was just part of my regular transfer abroad.

the 500k Ish I brought into Thailand in cash. was from a withdrawal abroad, I might be able to find the receipt but they made a mistake on one of these due to carbon paper and its unreadable. the account abroad I don't have access to since I closed it and withdraw the money and sent remaining funds back to my home country

edit: bankbook is old, as I have been here many years on various visas and exemption and have many transfers from abroad. just this 500k is in cash. this is my first retirement extension, wasn't aware of these things (my fault, should have done better research)

Edited August 11, 2022 by vento

[DrJack54]

10 minutes ago, vento said:

, wasn't aware of these things (my fault, should have done better research)

Don't beat yourself up.

Your fall back plan b is to obtain a non O retirement at consulate outside of Thailand eg Vientiane, Saigon etc.

The proof funds came from abroad not required non O retirement and not for extensions.

 

Alternatively talk with your immigration office about banking history. However don't think you will get much joy.

You did bring in 500k cash. 

 

Edited August 11, 2022 by DrJack54

[vento]

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Don't beat yourself up.

Your fall back plan b is to obtain a non O retirement at consulate outside of Thailand eg Vientiane, Saigon etc.

The proof funds came from abroad not required.

Alternatively talk with your immigration office. 

 

ok, also I just found receipts from withdrawal from foreign bank and large sum money exchange from a big exchange company abroad and other document showing I transferred large sums out of that account. so if they are worried that the money is given to me from someone here in Thailand, I can actually show pretty sizable transfers in the time up to my arrival.. maybe all this can help as well. it all depends what they are trying to archieve, but I guess that the goal is that people are not borrowing money from inside Thailand to put in the bank.

I will just go ahead and hope for the best, also, covid extensions should still be avail right? so worst case, I can extend covid 60d.. or alternatively use an agent, which might be as cheap as going to Vientiane or Saigon in worst worst case

[The Hammer2021]

Use an agent!

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, vento said:

so worst case, I can extend covid 60d.

Earlier you mentioned you are on visa exemption.

You would be required to obtain the standard 30 day extension prior to covid extension.

Currently CE due to end Aug 25. 

Keep in mind to apply for your non O you require 15+ days on your current permission of stay.

 

[vento]

10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Earlier you mentioned you are on visa exemption.

You would be required to obtain the standard 30 day extension prior to covid extension.

Currently CE due to end Aug 25. 

Keep in mind to apply for your non O you require 15+ days on your current permission of stay.

 

ok thank you.. im already on the the second/last 30d extension which are to expire 3th or 4th in next month. so that won't be possible for me.

but if I go emigration next week, I could possibly get a CE if they won't give me an non-o, it will still be beefore 25th and close to the end of my current/last 30d extension.. 

traveling abroad is the very last possible option, as my health are not very good since a long hospital stay in bkk.. I could do it if absolutely have to, but really would like to void that at any cost almost.

[vento]

16 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Use an agent!

I tried, at least for hel[ing me obtaining the non o and all the paper work, but was told they don't have this service.. only the "full" package which is kind of the opposite of the whole idea of putting 800k in the bank and trying to do things the right way. but if you know any agents that can do this as a separate service, not the full package, but just the non o, then I could try that company

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, vento said:

but if I go emigration next week, I could possibly get a CE if they won't give me an non-o, it will still be beefore 25th and close to the end of my current/last 30d extension.

You will be able to obtain 60 day covid extension and you would need that even if money wasn't the issue.

So apply for the CE and ask about the banking situation.

 

Regarding agent... where are you located

 

Edited August 11, 2022 by DrJack54

[vento]

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You will be able to obtain 60 day covid extension and you would need that even if money wasn't the issue.

So apply for the CE and ask about the banking situation.

 

ok, is that because im getting to close? I mean, if I do this mon/tue in next week, there will still be 15-16days left, or that's not enough.. sorry for being slow understanding.. trying hard ???? and thanks again.

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, vento said:

ok, is that because im getting to close? I mean, if I do this mon/tue in next week, there will still be 15-16days left, or that's not enough.. sorry for being slow understanding.. trying hard ???? and thanks again.

15 days is enough but this all depends on them accepting the 800k in your bank.

Also think cutting it too fine.

The covid extension is only 1900 baht and would give you time to sort things out.

Which immigration office?

Some require more than 15 days for non O application. 

Think CM is 21

Edited August 11, 2022 by DrJack54

[vento]

10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

15 days is enough but this all depends on them accepting the 800k in your bank.

Also think cutting it too fine.

The covid extension is only 1900 baht and would give you time to sort things out.

Which immigration office?

Some require more than 15 days for non O application. 

Think CM is 21

ok it all makes sense.. im in Pattaya. but yea, 1900 and 2 months, would buy some time..

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, vento said:

ok it all makes sense.. im in Pattaya.

Re agent: you could have a chat with Maneerat Agent, soi post office see what they can do for you.