Thaksin comes out to call on Prayut to step down ahead of 8-year term to avoid damaging judiciary

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, zzaa09 said:

The view of a very small circle. 

And yet a circle that consistently won electoral majorities, without needing to ban parties at the last moment, ban leaders of parties on trumped up charges, or change the rules to benefit certain parties with no electoral prospects ( but declared support for the junta). Nor did they spend weeks analysing, adjusting, and counting, recounting and reallocating votes to "the right parties".  Nor did he need to appoint 250 of his mates to the Senate to ensure his selection as Prime Minister.

 

Thaksin may be, is, open to allegations of corruption, dubious tax practises and maybe involvement in "extra judicial killings" (although I suspect those were due to turf wars between government agencies which were out of his control) but his policies, small circle or not, were popular, presented to the electorate and overwhelmingly endorsed by them. Repeatedly, unlike the current quasi military junta!

 

We know your interpretation of how "the system works", many of us understand it's machinations only too well. Thaksin challenged that, both directly and through the political machine he created, which has allowed and encouraged others, perhaps more palatable to also emerge. Those challenges were widely supported and have not, will not, go away.

 

Every time they arise they show up the establishment gerontacracy more and more, and make more obvious and less credible their efforts to cling to power.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2022 by herfiehandbag

[Purdey]

11 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

You forgot to mention ripping off the country, tax evasion and his extrajudicial murders.

All politicians are corrupt. As a Thai farmer explained to me, “they greedily eat the whole pie, Thaksin shared some of the pie with us”.

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts about Rodrigo Duterte and the replies have been removed.

[JCauto]

21 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

Totally agree.

The only thing that is worse than Thaksin are the Thaksin fan boys on this forum, they all seem to have rose red coloured testicles spectacles. ????

 

Does believing that being elected should be a prerequisite to assuming power make me a "Thaksin fan boy"? There are those, possibly even the majority, who find Thaksin unpleasant and nothing to admire but recognize that he legitimately won the elections he competed in either directly or by proxy. We believe that allowing democracy to proceed and live with those consequences both good and bad is in every case better than, once again, the Army seizing power in a coup whenever they feel like it then rewriting the laws to suit their own purposes. When you wonder "why does this keep happening here?", this is your answer.

I can think of something worse - those who applauded the illegal seizure of power in a coup d'etat and have sat silently by watching those who illegally control the country while making various excuses for why democracy is somehow worse than these military generals simply taking power and abusing it.

[JCauto]

6 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

The view of a very small circle. 

...who form the majority of this country and have voted him in every chance they've ever had. 

How small is the other circle? 

[JCauto]

18 hours ago, Purdey said:

I agree with people here who say Thaksin should shut up. He won elections without ever doing  anything for Thailand. Just grabbed everything for himself. I don't care if he created village-managed microcredit development funds, low-interest agricultural loans, direct injections of cash into village development funds (the SML scheme), infrastructure development, and the One Tambon One Product (OTOP), rural small and medium enterprise development program.
I don't see why people kept voting for him when he did nothing for the country but...

What have the Romans ever done for us?

[billd766]

On 8/17/2022 at 1:56 PM, tomazbodner said:

A wanted fugitive criminal for 15 years talking about damaging judiciary... amazing.

The charges were laid as a result of a military coup.

 

How many leaders and followers of military coups have been charged with anything, let alone treason?

[billd766]

12 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

The view of a very small circle. 

But only a circle on this forum.

 

Go outside and talk to Thai people and ask them who THEY would prefer as PM? Prayuth or Thaksin. And remember these are the people who CAN vote and do have a stake in Thailand.

[billd766]

11 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

he is Thai

Tony Woodsome does not sound like a typical Thai name to me.

 

And is your real name Bert got kinky?

[Bert got kinky]

53 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And is your real name Bert got kinky?

 

Actually, Bert is just a shortening of Albert.

My real name is Albert Gottfried Kinky.

 

[tomazbodner]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

The charges were laid as a result of a military coup.

 

How many leaders and followers of military coups have been charged with anything, let alone treason?

Nice attempt at a redirect... That's exactly what the mindset of majority of voters around the World is... It's OK that our guys are crooks, because the other side are crooks as well.

 

Doesn't anyone demand any accountancy from anyone anymore?

[zzaa09]

27 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Nice attempt at a redirect... That's exactly what the mindset of majority of voters around the World is... It's OK that our guys are crooks, because the other side are crooks as well.

 

Doesn't anyone demand any accountancy from anyone anymore?

Obviously not.

Appears to be an universal dumbing down. 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, tomazbodner said:

Nice attempt at a redirect... That's exactly what the mindset of majority of voters around the World is... It's OK that our guys are crooks, because the other side are crooks as well.

 

Doesn't anyone demand any accountancy from anyone anymore?

I wasn't attempting a redirect. I was asking a question.

 

Can you answer that question or not?

[pegman]

On 8/16/2022 at 8:19 PM, spidermike007 said:

1. Is Thaksin still relevant? 

2. No worries about damaging the reputations of democracy, the PM office, or the judicial system here. It has already been utterly demolished by Cha Cha. 

 Try checking the latest polls. Thaksin's daughter and party are leading.

[tomazbodner]

11 hours ago, billd766 said:

I wasn't attempting a redirect. I was asking a question.

 

Can you answer that question or not?

Not. I can only guess: very few, if any. But I don't know for a fact.

[Red Forever]

More red meat for the Thaksin hate mob.

The worry is that Prayut will backdate the costitution signed by His Majesty in 2017. Give democracy back to the Thai people even if it means Abhisit returning.

[chalawaan]

The judiciary are government puppets. Always will be no matter who rules. 

Incredible how people fall for the utter <deleted> Thai politicians love to put out. 

[chalawaan]

31 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

More red meat for the Thaksin hate mob.

The worry is that Prayut will backdate the costitution signed by His Majesty in 2017. Give democracy back to the Thai people even if it means Abhisit returning.

 

 

It's a wretched cesspit of gross and all-pervasive corruption, there is no hope, no matter which set of villains is in parliament, end of report.

Edited August 20, 2022 by chalawaan

[billd766]

On 8/18/2022 at 8:39 PM, tomazbodner said:

Nice attempt at a redirect... That's exactly what the mindset of majority of voters around the World is... It's OK that our guys are crooks, because the other side are crooks as well.

 

Doesn't anyone demand any accountancy from anyone anymore?

You can try to demand accountancy from the current government, but don't hold your breath waiting for an answer.

[billd766]

4 hours ago, Red Forever said:

More red meat for the Thaksin hate mob.

The worry is that Prayut will backdate the costitution signed by His Majesty in 2017. Give democracy back to the Thai people even if it means Abhisit returning.

Even if it means Thaksin returns and is given a full and free pardon, and then becomes the PM due to being voted in by the Thai people?

 

After all it IS their country and not the military's or anybody elses despite what the ultra-nationalists might say, think or do.