kwilco Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 3 hours ago, tomacht8 said: First sentence: 100% agree. The second sentence depends on the individual situation. Anyone who has a business here, has a Thai family, has children together, has settled in Thailand for a long time, pays taxes, etc. is more or less affected by political decisions. Anyone living and working here is to some extent deporting this militaristic regime.... they are ci doing all its actions .... unless there something about it. Anyone living and working here is to some extent deporting this militaristic regime.... they are ci doing all its actions .... unless there something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emanphoto Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 9 hours ago, ftpjtm said: Thailand is not his (or my) country. We're just guests who can't vote. Because that's all they'll let us be. ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Red Forever said: Ok I geddit: we're guests here as so many posters remind us but hey, it may be their country but it's our world. Many travellers have imparted knowledge to poor countries by way of technology, civil engineering and helped rid countries of dictatorship. Not saying this guy went about it the right way but to blithely trot out the old "we're only guests" line is to perpetuate the status quo whereby nothing changes. I thought it was a case of "Mind Your Own Business" in somebody else's country, I mean, would you stand in Moscow wiv a picy of Putin with a red cross on it....? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted September 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, transam said: I thought it was a case of "Mind Your Own Business" in somebody else's country, I mean, would you stand in Moscow wiv a picy of Putin with a red cross on it....? ???? Many of us come from countries where there is freedom of expression - Thailand and Russia does not have these same freedoms. It's somewhat ironic that those countries where these freedoms are suppressed are the very countries where these individual acts of protest are more important. Part of those freedoms include the irrelevance of race, nationality, gender etc of the person protesting or voicing opinion. IMO there is far more wrong with the suppression of protest than the act of protest itself, no matter who is protesting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Many of us come from countries where there is freedom of expression - Thailand and Russia does not have these same freedoms. It's somewhat ironic that those countries where these freedoms are suppressed are the very countries where these individual acts of protest are more important. Part of those freedoms include the irrelevance of race, nationality, gender etc of the person protesting or voicing opinion. IMO there is far more wrong with the suppression of protest than the act of protest itself, no matter who is protesting. I feel the same way. It is clear how best to behave within the given freedom framework of a country without encountering any problems. In the worst case, you are not allowed to say anything more publicly and have to accept any idiotic rubbish without complaint, even if you are negatively affected by it. But it also makes sense to question the given freedom framework. And this framework of freedom to express one's opinion openly is becoming narrower and more and more curtailed. Unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Germany is riddled with political problems- let him go back there. No foreigners should get involved in politics in Thailand- 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: I feel the same way. It is clear how best to behave within the given freedom framework of a country without encountering any problems. In the worst case, you are not allowed to say anything more publicly and have to accept any idiotic rubbish without complaint, even if you are negatively affected by it. But it also makes sense to question the given freedom framework. And this framework of freedom to express one's opinion openly is becoming narrower and more and more curtailed. Unfortunately. Try and campaign against immigration in Germany and see what happens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: I feel the same way. It is clear how best to behave within the given freedom framework of a country without encountering any problems. In the worst case, you are not allowed to say anything more publicly and have to accept any idiotic rubbish without complaint, even if you are negatively affected by it. But it also makes sense to question the given freedom framework. And this framework of freedom to express one's opinion openly is becoming narrower and more and more curtailed. Unfortunately. In LOS we farangy's are near all non-immigrants, aliens, guests, I think it obvious you don't start slagging the place or its governance off unless you are looking for trouble........???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 A post with a trolling video has been removed. A post with a trolling image has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Try and campaign against immigration in Germany and see what happens That's easy. There are many legal avenues of action open against a decision by the immigration authorities. The legal systems differ significantly from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, transam said: In LOS we farangy's are near all non-immigrants, aliens, guests, I think it obvious you don't start slagging the place or its governance off unless you are looking for trouble........???? That is clear if you want to stay in Thailand without any problems. You adapt and have a low profile if possible. I guess there is a general consensus on this in the forum. The possibility of free expression of opinion is restricted and for foreigners, as can be seen in this case, even more. And you may or may not be critical of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 minute ago, tomacht8 said: That is clear if you want to stay in Thailand without any problems. You adapt and have a low profile if possible. I guess there is a general consensus on this in the forum. The possibility of free expression of opinion is restricted and for foreigners, as can be seen in this case, even more. And you may or may not be critical of that. Yes, that's why I think this bloke is a sandwich short of a picnic.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Better watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: That's easy. There are many legal avenues of action open against a decision by the immigration authorities. The legal systems differ significantly from each other. Those who campaign on certain issues are sidelined, denigrated, banned, labelled and silenced and the best example of this is suppression of dissent and the discussion about Islamic immigration, misogyny, streetcrime, harassment and a whole host of ills. In particular the voice of German girls and women has been silenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: Those who campaign on certain issues are sidelined, denigrated, banned, labelled and silenced and the best example of this is suppression of dissent and the discussion about Islamic immigration, misogyny, streetcrime, harassment and a whole host of ills. In particular the voice of German girls and women has been silenced. This is your perception. My perception is different. The German government has an office for integration and foreigner policy since more than 30 years. To name just one difference. Foreigners in Germany are allowed to speak their mind publicly without fear of reprisals. Whole talk shows in German television make a living from it. However, Islamic hate preachers who publicly call for violence and the overthrow of the state are forbidden. Freedom of expression has its limits. And that's good. Edited September 3, 2022 by tomacht8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: This is your perception. My perception is different. The German government has an office for integration and foreigner policy since more than 30 years. To name just one difference. Foreigners in Germany are allowed to speak their mind publicly without fear of reprisals. Whole talk shows in German television make a living from it. However, Islamic hate preachers who publicly call for violence and the overthrow of the state are forbidden. Freedom of expression has its limits. And that's good. https://townhall.com/columnists/ianhaworth/2019/12/02/angela-merkel-and-german-freedom-of-speech-n2557309 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said: https://townhall.com/columnists/ianhaworth/2019/12/02/angela-merkel-and-german-freedom-of-speech-n2557309 What is the evidence? The article says exactly what I described. Freedom of expression has its limits where hatred and violence are incited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroomdave Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 New lottery for the Thais.....Pick the date (or flight #) he boards for his flight out after his blacklisting!! ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgw Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 foreigners should not involve themselves in their host country's politics. I think that's a sensible rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSilver Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 These treats from the Thai Police only shows that Thailand is a Banana Republic Dictatorship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack61 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 hours ago, klauskunkel said: I side with him Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happysoul Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 It was maybe already said as I didn't read all the 5 pages but ... Once deported, he should go do the same in North Korea and report how he was able to improve the life of NK citizens ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yme Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Hopefully he's got enough saved for his Winter energy bill when he gets back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard052 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 5 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said: Germany is riddled with political problems- let him go back there. No foreigners should get involved in politics in Thailand- Germany is riddled with political problems? Which planet do you live on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard052 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 9 hours ago, transam said: The German is a complete fool, to be avoided like the plague.... He got the right idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard052 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 hours ago, tomazbodner said: He's not going to last until his next visa extension. He's not some big shot internationally known journalist... Nothing is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard052 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Formaleins said: The level of the English language on this site makes me think you are all Germans! It sounds like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorry Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 10 hours ago, dddave said: If Germany is like the US, NOT a free trip. If the US has to cover a deportation, they will hound the deportee and his relatives until it is paid back...and it's not a discount ticket. If you get deported from Thailand, you have to pay for the ticket first. The time until your flight you spend in IDC. If you don't have money you wait in IDC until someone pays for you. There are people in IDC waiting for years. The German goverment will not pay. Deportation is not a free ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard052 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 hours ago, steven100 said: this pumpkin is asking for trouble ...... his thai wife must be embarrassed that's for sure. what a plonker ! Why should she be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard052 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 hours ago, MrJ2U said: He's got a screw loose. I wouldn't even bother doing that with a detested politician in my own country. Fruitless waist of time. Which country are you from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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