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[traveller101]

On 9/3/2022 at 10:09 PM, Reigntax said:

I’ve melting does not increase the volume of water even though about 10% remains above the water surface level.

this is another fallacy of the climate, instant but unqualified experts.

when water turns to ice it expands, hence becomes less dense, more buoyant and results in ice above the surface.

as it melts, it displaces exactly the same as the volume it previously did.

And that’s exactly why ice floats in water.

Fortunately, science is not a consensus of opinion of the masses. History has many examples.and that’s exactly why the climate experts don’t like open and free debates. Their agendas are shown mostly to be nothing more than political preferences and insufficient facts other than what has been manipulated.

remember the global cooling scare campaign of the 70’s?

Oil  will run out by the 90’s?

yes, all from the so called “experts”!!!

 

And yes Rooster, you’ve also been conned. But there is a difference between being and English and a Science teacher. Unless that science teacher also believes everything they are told to.

 

You're correct in saying that Icebergs melting in the Ocean do not contribute to rising sea levels.

The Ice covering large parts of Antarctica and Greenland up to 3 Kilometer thick and melting, do.

 

[Sparktrader]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes this will explain why:

 

"back-to-back La Niña events in the Pacific Ocean meant that 2021 was cooler than many recent record-breakers – such as 2016, where the world was almost a full degree (+0.99°C) hotter than last century’s average – it was still hotter than every year of the 20th Century."

 

"With the last nine years all appearing in the top ten hottest years ever recorded, we’ve put the last 143 years into context in this heatmap to show global temperature over time."

 

https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/heat-map-clear-trend-global-temperature-change/

The two strongest El Niños of the 20th century were those of 1982/83 and 1997/98, each of which was considered at the time a 'once-in-a-century' event. The El Niño of 2015/16 is in the same class as those of 1982/83 and 1997/98, and it set new records in the NINO4 and NINO3.

https://www.ecmwf.int › meteorology

The 2015/2016 El Niño and beyond | ECMWF

2016 was hot due to el nino

 

Stop cherry picking

[Bkk Brian]

17 minutes ago, Sparktrader said:

The two strongest El Niños of the 20th century were those of 1982/83 and 1997/98, each of which was considered at the time a 'once-in-a-century' event. The El Niño of 2015/16 is in the same class as those of 1982/83 and 1997/98, and it set new records in the NINO4 and NINO3.

https://www.ecmwf.int › meteorology

The 2015/2016 El Niño and beyond | ECMWF

2016 was hot due to el nino

 

Stop cherry picking

Cherry picking.....lol read the link, you asked for a theory, you got one from climatologists, you know, the experts. Your link also confirms the back to back el nino was the reason 2016 hotter than 2021

 

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes this will explain why:

 

"back-to-back La Niña events in the Pacific Ocean meant that 2021 was cooler than many recent record-breakers – such as 2016, where the world was almost a full degree (+0.99°C) hotter than last century’s average – it was still hotter than every year of the 20th Century."

 

"With the last nine years all appearing in the top ten hottest years ever recorded, we’ve put the last 143 years into context in this heatmap to show global temperature over time."

 

https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/heat-map-clear-trend-global-temperature-change/

To add some further confirmation:

 

In 2015 and 2016, a particularly intense El Nino stoked temperatures to make 2016 the hottest year ever recorded, with experts estimating that the phenomenon added between 0.1 and 0.2 degrees Celsius.

 

Now 2020 has matched that heat record, but this time there was no El Nino. In fact, temperatures were at an all-time high despite the beginning of a La Nina period that started at the end of the summer.

 

The phenomena can each last nine to 12 months and occur irregularly, every two to seven years, punctuated by neutral periods.

https://phys.org/news/2021-01-el-nino-la-nina-climate.html

Edited September 4, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[VocalNeal]

8 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

That together with the CO2 increase in the same timescale

Someone left off that graph the period in history when the C02 content was also in the 400ppm range. About 4 million years ago. The world was about 3℃ warmer and sea levels were higher than today. 

 

We have accelerated it, but it is not a disaster for the planet. Just for people who paid for a sea view. 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

Someone left off that graph the period in history when the C02 content was also in the 400ppm range. About 4 million years ago. The world was about 3℃ warmer and sea levels were higher than today. 

 

We have accelerated it, but it is not a disaster for the planet. Just for people who paid for a sea view. 

Yeah, we shrank millions of years of sea level rise into a few decades. It's all about the rate of change, not just that the change exists.

[Bkk Brian]

24 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Someone left off that graph the period in history when the C02 content was also in the 400ppm range. About 4 million years ago. The world was about 3℃ warmer and sea levels were higher than today. 

 

We have accelerated it, but it is not a disaster for the planet. Just for people who paid for a sea view. 

Is that also when sea levels were about 53 feet higher just 3 million years ago, the sea view for people would not be hard to gain eh

 

About 3 million years ago, the Earth was just a couple of degrees warmer than it is today — and global sea levels were 53 feet higher

This information can help inform what our planet may look like as rising temperatures and melting ice caps continue to cause sea levels to rise.

Edited September 4, 2022 by Bkk Brian

[VocalNeal]

17 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

It's all about the rate of change, not just that the change exists.

That I don't deny. I'm just questioning the exactitude of the supposed historically data. Ice core samples for C02 OK but not the 0.5 degree temperature increments from before accurate thermometers were available.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

That I don't deny. I'm just questioning the exactitude of the supposed historically data. Ice core samples for C02 OK but not the 0.5 degree temperature increments from before accurate thermometers were available.

Basic science: Carbon dioxide (CO2) is a greenhouse gas. This means that it causes an effect like the glass in a greenhouse, trapping heat and warming up the inside

[3NUMBAS]

all those condos will be high rise hen coops in 30years time .they have a short shelf life ,,,maybe a buffalo or 2 in condos on the 20th floor

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

That I don't deny. I'm just questioning the exactitude of the supposed historically data. Ice core samples for C02 OK but not the 0.5 degree temperature increments from before accurate thermometers were available.

They're not exact, nobody's claiming they are. In the models you always see a shaded area around the line. It's the trend that's important. I think the argument that temperatures are still low and will never become a problem, that ship has sailed. 1.5 or 2 degrees might not sound like a lot but climate scientists think it is. It's clear from the charts that both temperatures and CO2 levels are rising sharply. At a gradient never seen or estimated for any period in the past. We don't need to be clairvoyant to see where that's going. The trend is unmistakable.

[Mac Mickmanus]

21 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Is that also when sea levels were about 53 feet higher just 3 million years ago, the sea view for people would not be hard to gain eh

 

About 3 million years ago, the Earth was just a couple of degrees warmer than it is today — and global sea levels were 53 feet higher

This information can help inform what our planet may look like as rising temperatures and melting ice caps continue to cause sea levels to rise.

• Researchers analyzed mineral deposits from stalactites in a Mediterranean cave, and determined that global sea levels were more than 50 feet higher at that time than they are today.

   Was that when Noah had to build his ark ?

[Lacessit]

56 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Someone left off that graph the period in history when the C02 content was also in the 400ppm range. About 4 million years ago. The world was about 3℃ warmer and sea levels were higher than today. 

 

We have accelerated it, but it is not a disaster for the planet. Just for people who paid for a sea view. 

4 million years ago Homo Sapiens did not exist.

Nothing is a disaster for the planet, it can get along fine with or without us.

OTOH, it's not just people with a sea view. The conservative consensus is the Himalayan glaciers that feed the Ganges, Brahmaputra and Mekong rivers will be 50% of their current ice mass by 2050.

The billion people with an increasing population that live on those rivers and depend on their waters will have to make do with half the current flows, even less if the Chinese keep building more dams.

[ozimoron]

Most climate change deniers believe:

 

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

4 million years ago Homo Sapiens did not exist.

Only 6,000 years but God did exist.

 

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Nothing is a disaster for the planet, it can get along fine with or without us.

The earth is too large for man to affect the climate and God wouldn't let humans become extinct anyway.

 

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

OTOH, it's not just people with a sea view. The conservative consensus is the Himalayan glaciers that feed the Ganges, Brahmaputra and Mekong rivers will be 50% of their current ice mass by 2050.

It's just a temporary thing, they will come back.

 

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The billion people with an increasing population that live on those rivers and depend on their waters will have to make do with half the current flows, even less if the Chinese keep building more dams.

They aren't even Christians.

[Mac Mickmanus]

29 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

4 million years ago Homo Sapiens did not exist.

Nothing is a disaster for the planet, it can get along fine with or without us.

OTOH, it's not just people with a sea view. The conservative consensus is the Himalayan glaciers that feed the Ganges, Brahmaputra and Mekong rivers will be 50% of their current ice mass by 2050.

The billion people with an increasing population that live on those rivers and depend on their waters will have to make do with half the current flows, even less if the Chinese keep building more dams.

The Ganges gets 94 % of its water from rainfall and just 5 % of its water comes from melting glaciers and even with the current changes , the glaciers will last for another 3000 years

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

• Researchers analyzed mineral deposits from stalactites in a Mediterranean cave, and determined that global sea levels were more than 50 feet higher at that time than they are today.

   Was that when Noah had to build his ark ?

Is that the same Noah that lived till he was 950.....lol 

 

Theres a religion OP on this site somewhere perhaps ask there

[Skallywag]

Soon, all coastal cities will become mini Waterworlds because of climate change.  Personal automobiles and other internal combustion vehicles will either be in museums or inland trying to survive in Mad Max type communities with little oil.  

EV surfboards and water cycles are the future of personal transportation as sure as the sun shines and the ice caps melt!  5555.

Electric powered dirigibles and drones will deliver your food and Lazada order ????

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[onthedarkside]

Several posts and comments with unsourced and unsubstantiated claims have been removed, along with a conspiracy theory post, and with ensuing replies.

 

[MyFriend You]

Aaaaw Rooster, See whatcha did??  Show a picture of a coupla kids swimming in a flood zone, and we get five pages of climatologists back n forth.   ????????????????   Peace