Thailand believes condemnation will reduce chances of resolving conflict in Ukraine

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, pavloh said:

you are struggling to keep up.  t you cant find a link about the minsk agreements. you can find a link that zelenski said before he was elected he would bring peace. really try google

I know all about the Minsk agreements but you need to do much better than that. A major blockage to those agreements were Russia’s insistence that it is not a party to the conflict and therefore is not bound by its terms.

[micmichd]

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Very naive.

The only way for there to be a peaceful end game for Putin's folly war is for Ukraine to continue to win decisively. 

Putin's goal remains and will always be to erase the nation of Ukraine forever. ALL of it.

Sorry that the Thai leaders don't see it (they probably do but insist on not making waves).

Why should Thailand (a neutral country) get involved in a war that isn't even theirs? 

[jonclark]

1 hour ago, pavloh said:

As opposed to western propaganda . 

The first casualty of war is truth.

 

Works both ways so never assume your 'truth' is correct. 

 

But the absence of open debate and reporting in Russia, free from censorship or archaic laws which imprison opponents of the Russian state for speaking their minds, leads to the obvious and logical conclusion that western propaganda is more closely aligned with truth, than the Russia version. 

 

Remember Putin said he would never invade...well that was clearly a massive lie. 

 

However it appears the truth is starting to leak out.

 

https://fb.watch/g8uiTEfuBE/

 

 

Edited October 14, 2022 by jonclark

[anandra]

2 hours ago, pavloh said:

 

no just know that facts I am not a Nazi sympathizer are you

You are, ruscists now iare worse than all nazis of the world for all time

[Formaleins]

Good for Thailand! Make a bit of a stand against this phony war, pursued by the Neocons and cretins of the Biden administration, war mongering imbeciles who have lost most of their credibility on the world stage, but backed by the despotic unelected, undemocratic sheep of the floundering mess that is the EU!

[anandra]

1 hour ago, flossie35 said:

Nonsense. This is a war provoked by US/NATO to damage Russia. Ukraine - the cannon fodder - can't win. There will have to be a settlement, which will have to include transfer to Russia of the Russian-ethnic areas now in question. And Crimea.

There are no russian ethnic areas in Ukraine, do not post here being on drugs and Lao Khao please.

[JoePai]

43 minutes ago, pavloh said:

I guess you think the west is winning.  

Do you really believe what you write or are you having a laugh this morning and this all a big wind up ?

[micmichd]

4 hours ago, twix38 said:

oh tell me another one lol.

All respectable countries voted to condemn Russia. Not back, excuse or play politics 

Who are you to judge what a "respectable country" is? 

[ThaSalaPaul]

51 minutes ago, pavloh said:

Oh look cnn in the house

Oh look Russian state TV is in the house

[anandra]

48 minutes ago, pavloh said:

as expected you have nothing Bye bye princess

Sober up russian troll, clean rubbish in russia first, in chita especially, destroy barracks, build something new, and then probably you can post something reasonable here.

[Walker88]

"In addition to Russia, four countries rejected the vote, namely Belarus, North Korea, Syria and Nicaragua."

 

Perhaps the putin apologists will come on here and tell sane people that we're 'being fooled by CNN or Western media' about the 4 real paradises in this world of Belarus, North Korea, Syria and Nicaragua.

 

Yes, those apologists have 'done their research' and won't be fooled by graphic images of wanton slaughter and butchery ("crisis actors", no doubt), and they know full well that almost every Ukrainian, prior to March of this year, either spent their days goosestepping or re-reading Mein Kampf..

[Srikcir]

2 hours ago, pavloh said:

Putin goal is has and is to Denazify Ukraine and disarm. The Minsk agreements ratified by the UN we destroyed by the US and UK. There was a agreement made in Turkey a couple of months ago until BOJO went to Ukraine and destroyed it.

 

 

The west wants war 

Unprovoked attack against a peaceful nation, war disguised as a political exercise, fascist allies, war crimes against civilians and nonmilitary infrastructure, military intimidation to force annexation, genocide, forced conscription of the weak and young, etc. The same kind of tactics used by Nazi Hitler in WW2.

 

Russia has become the nazis.

 

Defend the Ukraine homeland, protect civilians, fight against overwhelming odds against a military superior aggressor, sacrifice to keep the capital and sovereignty, military support from democratic nations, etc.

 

Ukraine has become the Allies of WW2. 

[Eric Loh]

A civilain goverment would have voted quite differently from current military government. Walk of shame for the current government. 

[Robert Tyrrell]

2 hours ago, petey123 said:

reading the above comments, it is clear how effective the intensive "western" propaganda machine has been.    this war with its increasing death and destruction can be laid squarely at the feet of the empire of lies and its puppetry.    the nazi-influenced regime had been conducting wholesale slaughter of russians living in the east of that corrupt country since 2014 and v. putin finally decided it had to end.   he had stated late last year that war could be avoided if the empire/puppetry gave up their plan to push nato up to the russian border by inviting ukraine to join and if the latter allowed limited autonomy to its russian-speaking citizens, per the minsk agreement.    the arrogant parties of the "west"  refused to even talk, seeing the ukraine as a means to weaken russia as a potential rival to the empire.    since then the bankrupt empire (31 trillion plus dollars debt) has been hurling billions into the ukraine to keep young ukrainian and russian men dying, cheered on by the corrupt media and the arms merchants.    as an aside, when the west talks about the importance of maintaining  "territorial integrity," it would be good to remember that the empire intensely bombed serbia to enable kosovo to declare its independence and that, today, the empire's troops are garrisoning a significant portion of northeast syria while stealing syrian petroleum....

good on ya Pavloh and kudos to Thailand for not joining the insanity....      

You’ve certainly been gulping the ways of Dictatorship and Communism Kool-aid haven’t you ??! , I suppose you also support China and the imprisonment of Wayger people in China !!??  PATHETIC !! 

[Henryford]

Says it all about the morality of Thailand when they condone the murder and torture of women and children.

[JackGats]

2 hours ago, petey123 said:

...  the nazi-influenced regime had been conducting wholesale slaughter of russians living in the east of that corrupt country since 2014 and v. putin finally decided it had to end....    

When I read "nazi" I think "there we go again", and I don't need to read the rest of the rant. 

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, Jerno said:

I call BS. Just pandering to Russia and China, by sitting on the fence. 

Perhaps you are unaware of the strong connections between Thailand and China. As long as China is not going to condemn Russia it's obvious to me that they are unlikely to do so.

 

 

 

[JimmyJ]

2 hours ago, petey123 said:

reading the above comments, it is clear how effective the intensive "western" propaganda machine has been.    this war with its increasing death and destruction can be laid squarely at the feet of the empire of lies and its puppetry.    the nazi-influenced regime had been conducting wholesale slaughter of russians living in the east of that corrupt country since 2014 and v. putin finally decided it had to end.   he had stated late last year that war could be avoided if the empire/puppetry gave up their plan to push nato up to the russian border by inviting ukraine to join and if the latter allowed limited autonomy to its russian-speaking citizens, per the minsk agreement.    the arrogant parties of the "west"  refused to even talk, seeing the ukraine as a means to weaken russia as a potential rival to the empire.    since then the bankrupt empire (31 trillion plus dollars debt) has been hurling billions into the ukraine to keep young ukrainian and russian men dying, cheered on by the corrupt media and the arms merchants.    as an aside, when the west talks about the importance of maintaining  "territorial integrity," it would be good to remember that the empire intensely bombed serbia to enable kosovo to declare its independence and that, today, the empire's troops are garrisoning a significant portion of northeast syria while stealing syrian petroleum....

good on ya Pavloh and kudos to Thailand for not joining the insanity....      

"today, the empire's troops are garrisoning a significant portion of northeast syria while stealing syrian petroleum...."

 

And Syria has asked them to leave and they have refused.

 

Will the propagandized cheerleaders for a WWIII start flying the Syrian flag along with the Ukrainian for their avatar?

 

Of course not. 

The Empire has not propagandized them for this.

 

Everything that disagrees with their War Hawk attitude is Russian propaganda.

 

Yet never Once is the Western propaganda questioned or disagreed with.

 

And the end of the World via a Nuclear War is never an issue for them.

Edited October 14, 2022 by JimmyJ

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, Henryford said:

Says it all about the morality of Thailand when they condone the murder and torture of women and children.

Plenty of countries ( eg Burma ) doing the same sort of thing, but those countries getting exercised over Russia seem rather quiet on them. Has your country condemned Burma in the UN?

[Srikcir]

Thailand - resolving conflict between a fascist aggressor nation committing war crimes and a peaceful democratic nation?

 

But Ukraine should choose the Thai solution by unconditional surrender after one week of resistance, ie., against Japanese invasion of Thailand in WW2?

 

Thailand's abstention was not an act in defense of a nation's integrity nor of democracy. It seems more towards economic alignment regardless of  any democratic and humanitarian cost.

[plus7]

1 hour ago, mikebell said:

Thailand has no shame!  Fancy being included in the above list!

You're transferring single people characteristic on something that is not human.

This is the country, not a pupil.

 

Question to you and other moralists: Will it serve to Thailand's prosperity or not ?

 

 

[wwest5829]

2 hours ago, flossie35 said:

Nonsense. This is a war provoked by US/NATO to damage Russia. Ukraine - the cannon fodder - can't win. There will have to be a settlement, which will have to include transfer to Russia of the Russian-ethnic areas now in question. And Crimea.

Once again “having peace in our time” - a la Chamberlain as Hitler demanded the German speaking Sudetenland from sovereign Czechoslovakia. 

[micmichd]

1 hour ago, kennw said:

It seems that your "facts" are coming from comic books, Russian propaganda ones at that. The Ukraine leader is a Nazi ? Read the facts he is Jewish. 

If you want to know how the real German Nazis roamed around in Ukraine in WW2 then read the story about Babi Yar (google for it) 

[micmichd]

1 hour ago, kennw said:

It seems that your "facts" are coming from comic books, Russian propaganda ones at that. The Ukraine leader is a Nazi ? Read the facts he is Jewish. 

If you want to know how the real German Nazis roamed around in Ukraine in WW2 then read the story about Babi Yar (google for it) 

[thaibeachlovers]

16 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

A civilain goverment would have voted quite differently from current military government. Walk of shame for the current government. 

In your opinion, but you can't know that. The Chinese connection is strong regardless  of the government.

Anyway, I doubt that any type of Thai government cares about the opinions of farangs.

[anandra]

23 minutes ago, pavloh said:

A russian troll grow up <deleted> .clown

yes, you are a drunk russian troll. spreading total nonsense, behaving like a clown, you might be drinking not lao kha o but glass cleaning liquid that is very popular among poor russians, who have no money, it is true, just sober up, and listen to what putin said, all demilitirisation and other rubbish is сancelled now. 

[plus7]

Hi,

 

Why do you wonder that Ukraine glorifying nazism ?

Have you seen a video how defenders or steel plant in Mariupol surrendered ? They are full of tattoos with nazi symbols. Some tattoos are very creative.

 

I'm sure Zelensky himself doesn't like it, but this glorifying needs for militarization of youth.

In small baltic countries: Lietuva, Latvia and Estonia they have marches on old SS veterans. Why? Simply to split population inside countries. Just something for irritation. It may be that real SS veterans are long dead, but they just dressing up old men.

 

 

 

[newnative]

1 hour ago, mikebell said:

Thailand has no shame!  Fancy being included in the above list!

Thailand is not included in the 'above list'.  Thailand abstained, along with 30-some other countries.

[anandra]

27 minutes ago, JackGats said:

When I read "nazi" I think "there we go again", and I don't need to read the rest of the rant. 

if he meant russia by nazi regime he was right))))

Edited October 14, 2022 by anandra

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand abstained during the UN vote to condemn Russia’s annexation of four regions of Ukraine because it believes that such condemnation, when the situation in Ukraine is escalating, will reduce the chances of resolving the conflict through diplomatic means, according to an explanation issued by Thailand’s Foreign Ministry

Yeah okay...