onthedarkside Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Saifullah Paracha, a 75-year-old man from Pakistan who was held in the U.S. military prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, without charge for 18 years, has returned home, the Department of Defense announced on Saturday. In 2003, Paracha a former businessman and TV producer, was arrested by U.S. authorities on suspicion of affiliation with al-Qaida. Last year, Guantánamo's Periodic Review Board determined that Paracha was no longer a significant threat to the U.S. ... Paracha is at least the fourth person who has been released from Guantánamo this year. It is part of President Biden's efforts to reduce the population of detainees at Guantánamo and ultimately close the facility. (more) https://www.npr.org/2022/10/29/1132605483/oldest-prisoner-guantanamo-released-pakistan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 8 hours ago, onthedarkside said: was held in the U.S. military prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, without charge for 18 years So much about the land of the free. Obviously, I don't know if that guy did anything illegal - and withing the jurisdiction of the USA. If he did, why didn't they charge him and convict him? And if he didn't do anything illegal within the jurisdiction of the USA what gives them the right to detain him for years and without charging him? The rest of the world can't tell the USA often enough that that is entirely unacceptable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 5 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: So much about the land of the free. Obviously, I don't know if that guy did anything illegal - and withing the jurisdiction of the USA. If he did, why didn't they charge him and convict him? And if he didn't do anything illegal within the jurisdiction of the USA what gives them the right to detain him for years and without charging him? The rest of the world can't tell the USA often enough that that is entirely unacceptable. America deems itself above the law. Do as we say, not as we do. Hypocrisy and double standards at its worst. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamfalang Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) That dark chapter in CIA history has reemerged with President Trump’s nomination of a new director, Gina Haspel, a career undercover officer who oversaw the Thai black site in late 2002. I guess it "closed" in 2018. -------------------and-------------------- The secret detention programme, as it was gradually uncovered, stretched across the globe. The network of sites we have documented encompasses Antaviliai and Kabul, North Carolina and Skopje, Columbia County, Milan, Tripoli and Bucharest. In our journeys through this material, we have sought to portray the appearance of disappearance. Plus tons of spy places... send America an email, "Don't be mean to people!!! I won't invite you to my Birthday Party!!!" That should bring peace to the world. or not.................... Fun story but nothing will happen or change and the universe will continue the way it was regardless of our posts........ Fight the good fight falang from Pattaya!!!! Call your embassy and DEMAND action against America...hahahahhahahahhahahhahhahahahahahha.....even your own country will laugh at you. Edited October 30, 2022 by Iamfalang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonbridgebrit Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Gweiloman said: America deems itself above the law. Do as we say, not as we do. Hypocrisy and double standards at its worst. We must remember, it's not the people of America that we are condemning. We are condemning the government of the USA. Yes, the US government is a bigger danger and threat to world peace than Russia and China. Certainly so. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 hours ago, tonbridgebrit said: We must remember, it's not the people of America that we are condemning. We are condemning the government of the USA. Yes, the US government is a bigger danger and threat to world peace than Russia and China. Certainly so. Until now the US government was elected by their population in democratic elections. The government is not independent from the people. People can vote for better politicians. IMHO the US government gets away with this and many other things because the American people accept it or even support it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: Until now the US government was elected by their population in democratic elections. The government is not independent from the people. People can vote for better politicians. IMHO the US government gets away with this and many other things because the American people accept it or even support it. Due to the electoral college system, the President is sometimes not the first choice of the population. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Gweiloman said: Due to the electoral college system, the President is sometimes not the first choice of the population. Go figure. As far as I know every single person in the US congress and senate is elected. They are responsible for wars and GITMO and all the other politics and laws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 8:19 PM, onthedarkside said: In 2003, Paracha a former businessman and TV producer, was arrested by U.S. authorities on suspicion of affiliation with al-Qaida. Last year, Guantánamo's Periodic Review Board determined that Paracha was no longer a significant threat to the U.S. nor ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, NickyLouie said: Ummm, No I don't have baby soft hands like you either. Thought not… you got nothing. Edited October 30, 2022 by Bluespunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 How can the USA get away with this ? Like, if China were taking hundreds of Europeans and keeping them locked up in a Zaire jail for many years or something . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Troll posts and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dust Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 At least Obama tried to make good on his campaign promise to end this Bush legacy. On his second day in office Obama issued an executive order to close Guantanamo down within a year. The right wasn't on board with this plan at all and congress thwarted most of this. Donald Trump also made it clear he apposed it. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/obama-failed-close-guantanamo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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