Biden: For Gods sake this man cannot remain in power !

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

You can kiss your wet dream goodbye. Trump won't win the GOP nomination. He's history. Let's see how Biden debates a professional like DeSantis.

A professional trumpist demagogue.

[tgw]

36 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He's running. 

He'll be nominated.

Incumbents always have a strong advantage. 

Hardly ludicrous dear.

I'd even go further and say it's not really relevant if Biden is physically completely fit for office or not, because it's a team that gets elected, and there is still the vice president, Kamala Harris.

In these times, with menacing China and Russia, it's better to elect a functioning team than a loose cannon autocratic single person program.

[Jingthing]

20 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

This time Biden can't run his election from his basement. Let's wait for biden's official intention.

Remember there was a pandemic, snookums?

Who's running from his basement now?

Trump.

Biden will run from the white house not the big house.

Edited December 23, 2022 by Jingthing

[EVENKEEL]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

DeSantis will crash and burn, Republicans are done with the MAGA experiment. They realize they need the independent swing vote to win. History has not been kind to early GOP nominees.

If that helps you sleep, fine. In one corner you have biden who has a hard time keeping one cognitive thought in his head and in the other corner you have the very popular gov of Florida who speaks very well.

 

Anyone who is fond of biden really wouldn't want to see him run again. 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, tgw said:

I'd even go further and say it's not really relevant if Biden is physically completely fit for office or not, because it's a team that gets elected, and there is still the vice president, Kamala Harris.

In these times, with menacing China and Russia, it's better to elect a functioning team than a loose cannon autocratic single person program.

The ye Olde don't change horses in the middle of a stream gambit. 

[Jingthing]

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

If that helps you sleep, fine. In one corner you have biden who has a hard time keeping one cognitive thought in his head and in the other corner you have the very popular gov of Florida who speaks very well.

 

Anyone who is fond of biden really wouldn't want to see him run again. 

How do you know he speaks well?

He hasn't even spoken nationally yet.

Florida is a red state.

So you think he can get elected by demonizing LGBT people a la Putin?

Possible but no shoe in. 

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

If that helps you sleep, fine. In one corner you have biden who has a hard time keeping one cognitive thought in his head and in the other corner you have the very popular gov of Florida who speaks very well.

 

Anyone who is fond of biden really wouldn't want to see him run again. 

I don't want to see Biden run again. Not because I don't like Biden but because the Dems need a more charismatic progressive to win bigly. I'm just pointing out that MAGA candidates did not fare well in the mid terms and that historically, early calls haven't fared well in the GOP nominations. I think DeSantis will not do well outside the deep red states.

 

The right wing still cling to the delusion that they are the silent majority.

Edited December 23, 2022 by ozimoron

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

I don't want to see Biden run again. Not because I don't like Biden but because the Dems need a progressive to win bigly. I'm juts pointing out that MAGA candidates did not fare well in the mid terms and that historically, early calls haven't fared well in the GOP nominations. I think DeSantis will not do well outside the deep red states.

Very few people are thrilled about Biden again but he'll have the same argument as before. Electability and as the incumbent probable winner. 

 

Historically incumbents almost always win.

Edited December 23, 2022 by Jingthing

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Very few people are thrilled about Biden again but he'll have the same argument as before. Electability and as the incumbent probable winner. 

He will be the nominee again unless he himself decides not to run.

[Mac Mickmanus]

Both Biden and Trump need to step back from Politics and let some new guys take over 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

He will be the nominee again unless he himself decides not to run.

It's obvious already that he's running. Jill Biden is publicly on board. Inflation is going down and the midterms went as well as any democrat could have reasonably hoped for. Biden is a respected world leader in the west uniting against Putin.

 

Only a health crisis could stop him.

[EVENKEEL]

26 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

A professional trumpist demagogue.

English please.

[ozimoron]

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

English please.

You're correct. He should have said "A professional trumpian demagogue".

[Chigur]

Lovably senile goofballs always get one term. It's in the constitution. We'll wave goodbye with tears in our eyes as Jill leads him away Jan. 20, 2025.

 

Still I am curious to see what emerges from the Hunter Biden investigations to start with the new Congress. Man's a sleazeball hall of famer. Banging his brother's widow before the poor fellow's corpse was cold,  jeez.

 

And if, as they say, the tree is never far from the apple, we may find out that the lovable goofball has been up to some no good himself. Ukraine, Burisma, China, I can't imagine the MSM/State nexus suppressing it all though they'll give it a shot.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

You're correct. He should have said "A professional trumpian demagogue".

Trumpist has much wider usage.

Trumpism is much bigger than the one man.

Unfortunately.

 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Chigur said:

Lovably senile goofballs always get one term. It's in the constitution. We'll wave goodbye with tears in our eyes as Jill leads him away Jan. 20, 2025.

 

Still I am curious to see what emerges from the Hunter Biden investigations to start with the new Congress. Man's a sleazeball hall of famer. Banging his brother's widow before the poor fellow's corpse was cold,  jeez.

 

And if, as they say, the tree is never far from the apple, we may find out that the lovable goofball has been up to some no good himself. Ukraine, Burisma, China, I can't imagine the MSM/State nexus suppressing it all though they'll give it a shot.

Like Reagan?

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Chigur said:

Lovably senile goofballs always get one term. It's in the constitution. We'll wave goodbye with tears in our eyes as Jill leads him away Jan. 20, 2025.

 

Still I am curious to see what emerges from the Hunter Biden investigations to start with the new Congress. Man's a sleazeball hall of famer. Banging his brother's widow before the poor fellow's corpse was cold,  jeez.

 

And if, as they say, the tree is never far from the apple, we may find out that the lovable goofball has been up to some no good himself. Ukraine, Burisma, China, I can't imagine the MSM/State nexus suppressing it all though they'll give it a shot.

By any measure, Biden has been the most effective president in recent history, even more so than Obama who was really a disappointment for not going in hard and fast while he had the chance.

[Chigur]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Like Reagan?

You got me there. Man was a charmer though. All those vids of him telling funny stories. He and Bush II had that "Hey, let's have a beer together" vibe. Joe's a cutout. There's nothing there.

[ozimoron]

Just now, Chigur said:

You got me there. Man was a charmer though. All those vids of him telling funny stories. He and Bush II had that "Hey, let's have a beer together" vibe. Joe's a cutout. There's nothing there.

If you want movie stars and TV reality stars then so be it. Biden is a senator with decades of experience.

[Chigur]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

If you want movie stars and TV reality stars then so be it. Biden is a senator with decades of experience.

You do know that the current "great world leader" was a TV comic.

 

I do agree with your second assertion. Man's done a lot and was great VP. But he's way past his sell-by date.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, Chigur said:

You do know that the current "great world leader" was a TV comic.

 

I do agree with your second assertion. Man's done a lot and was great VP. But he's way past his sell-by date.

Is that Zelensky's only qualification? In the case of Trump and Reagan that was the case.

 

Z has a law degree. Trump's tertiary qualifications are a controversial topic.

Edited December 23, 2022 by ozimoron

[Chigur]

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Is that Zelensky's only qualification? In the case of Trump and Reagan that was the case.

Oh, come now, you are being willfully partisan. Trump ran a billion dollar company and Reagan was Gov. of CA before being POTUS.

 

As for Zelensky his career before the presidency was all comedy. Some would say it still is.

 

 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Chigur said:

Oh, come now, you are being willfully partisan. Trump ran a billion dollar company and Reagan was Gov. of CA before being POTUS.

 

As for Zelensky his career before the presidency was all comedy. Some would say it still is.

According to Trump he ran nothing. He claimed it was Weaselburger or whatever his name was. His tax returns show him failing at business. His actual income was derived from inheritance and his TV show.

Edited December 23, 2022 by ozimoron

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Chigur said:

Oh, come now, you are being willfully partisan. Trump ran a billion dollar company and Reagan was Gov. of CA before being POTUS.

 

As for Zelensky his career before the presidency was all comedy. Some would say it still is.

 

 

Who would say it still is?

 

Zelensky.

From Lawyer To Comedian To Politician To War Hero

[Chigur]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

According to Trump he ran nothing. He claimed it was Weaselburger or whatever his name was. His tax returns show him failing at business. His actual income was derived from inheritance and his TV show.

I understand you hate him. But from Wikipedia:

 

"The Trump Organization is a group of about 500 business entities of which Donald Trump is the sole or principal owner. ... The Trump Organization, through its various constituent companies and partnerships, has or has had interests in real estate development, investing, brokerage, sales and marketing, and property management."

 

Give  the man some credit. Plus he's going to be our next Prez.

 

[ozimoron]

6 minutes ago, Chigur said:

I understand you hate him. But from Wikipedia:

 

"The Trump Organization is a group of about 500 business entities of which Donald Trump is the sole or principal owner. ... The Trump Organization, through its various constituent companies and partnerships, has or has had interests in real estate development, investing, brokerage, sales and marketing, and property management."

 

Give  the man some credit. Plus he's going to be our next Prez.

 

His real estate deals largely consisted of laundering money for Russian oligarchs who bought at inflated prices.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-fusion-idUSKBN1F727X

 

How Russian Money Helped Save Trump’s Business

After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in.

 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/

 

Biden's Treasury Department takes aim at Trump and Putin with money laundering crackdown in real estate market

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-treasury-trump-putin-real-estate-market-crackdown-money-laundering-2021-12

Edited December 23, 2022 by ozimoron

[Chigur]

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Who would say it still is?

 

Zelensky.

From Lawyer To Comedian To Politician To War Hero

That last part is comedy gold right there.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Chigur said:

That last part is comedy gold right there.

Who for, the Trump cult? They are easily amused. 

[ozimoron]

1 minute ago, Chigur said:

That last part is comedy gold right there.

Zelensky has been recently compared to Churchill.

[Chigur]

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Zelensky has been recently compared to Churchill.

Makes sense. Churchill was a racist who despised "dirty brown people" while Zelensky is in the thrall of white supremacist anti-Semitic Banderites.