GOP leader McCarthy elected House Speaker on 15th vote in historic run

 

The U.S. House of Representatives elected GOP leader Kevin McCarthy of California as speaker in a dramatic 15th vote early Saturday, after a contentious four days and 14 failed ballots — the longest the chamber has gone leaderless in a century.

 

In a dramatic showdown on the House floor in the middle of the 14th failed vote at around 11 p.m. ET Friday, McCarthy personally confronted GOP Reps. Matt Gaetz of Florida and Lauren Boebert of Colorado.

 

Despite making numerous concessions to win support from them and other far right Republicans over the course of the week, they still refused to support McCarthy outright. 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/06/live-updates-on-house-speaker-vote-gop-leader-mccarthy-fights-for-his-political-future-in-historic-battle-for-the-gavel.html

 

 

And as part of the deal, all it takes is one member of Congress to vote on vacating the Speaker's seat. I'm sure that won't lead to any disruptions.

Speaker Dunsel has taken the helm.

 

He's given away all the power that should go with that position to the right wing loonies as that was the only way he could get the position. One or two months and he'll be out.

Finally a leader in the house. Go Kevin,lets make America Great Again.

24 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Finally a leader in the house. Go Kevin,lets make America Great Again.

Thank you for your reasoned support of a new debilitated McCarthy.

Here are a couple ways Congress is going to help McCarthy to Make America Great Again

 

Just one member is all it takes to call for a snap election on whether to vacate the office of the Speaker. So if McCarthy offends just 5 of these loons, out he goes.

 

Any member can bring up an unlimited number of amendments to spending bills. Which means the Speaker has no power to actually get legislation approved as long as any member keeps on coming up with amendments. I can think of about 20 members of the House up for doing just that.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Thank you for your reasoned support of a new debilitated McCarthy.

Here are a couple ways Congress is going to help McCarthy to Make America Great Again

 

Just one member is all it takes to call for a snap election on whether to vacate the office of the Speaker. So if McCarthy offends just 5 of these loons, out he goes.

 

Any member can bring up an unlimited number of amendments to spending bills. Which means the Speaker has no power to actually get legislation approved as long as any member keeps on coming up with amendments. I can think of about 20 members of the House up for doing just that.

Another form of filibuster. Aka blackmail.

Let's not forget that all those politicians were democratically elected by many, I guess mostly millions, of Americans.

It shows us again how many crazy Americans are out there to vote for such people.

So did this surprise anyone that kevie would bow to right wing pressure from the nutjobs?

 

This is the same kevie who was done with trump after the coup attempt but then flew to florida to kiss his rear end and grovel.

 

Not exactly a "profile in courage" now is he?

 

The republican clown car rolls on in.  It continues to run on BS and Hot Air.  Sadly all they will do is create gridlock and be against everything that the majority of voters are for.  

These MAGA crazies will ensure the demise of their party for generations after 2024. The public revulsion will be similar to that seen in the mid terms but will be deeper because there's going to be 2 years of chaos and overreach.

53 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

Finally a leader in the house. Go Kevin,lets make America Great Again.

a leader that caves in to 20 right wing nut jobs to blackmail him and strip him of any significant power?

you might want to look up the word "leader"....

2 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Finally a leader in the house. Go Kevin,lets make America Great Again.

Given how reduced the Speaker's powers are, I'd agree that he is a kind of leader. A cheerleader.

2 hours ago, gargamon said:

Speaker Dunsel has taken the helm.

 

He's given away all the power that should go with that position to the right wing loonies as that was the only way he could get the position. One or two months and he'll be out.

One wonders what he actually did give away in concessions.

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

a leader that caves in to 20 right wing nut jobs to blackmail him and strip him of any significant power?

you might want to look up the word "leader"....

He could never have been elected any other way.  What has this guy got on the other 200 Republicans one wonders that kept him from being sidelined and another Republican elected.

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

One wonders what he actually did give away in concessions.

Here's some things:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64194129

If I may borrow a example from our friends across the pond shall I put a cabbage on the shelf and see which lasts longer…….he’s a paper tiger all he’s got to do is <deleted> off one of the MAGA nutters and it’s all stop thank god we have checks and balances in our government to stop the nutters if they really do something anti democracy 

6 minutes ago, Tug said:

If I may borrow a example from our friends across the pond shall I put a cabbage on the shelf and see which lasts longer…….he’s a paper tiger all he’s got to do is <deleted> off one of the MAGA nutters and it’s all stop thank god we have checks and balances in our government to stop the nutters if they really do something anti democracy 

I thought it was lettuce. Which wilts more quickly.

37 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I thought it was lettuce. Which wilts more quickly.

Proverb nazi ????

2 hours ago, Salerno said:

Here's some things:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64194129

Now he's the nutters'  bitch. They will never stop.

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Proverb nazi ????

Perhaps a petunias would be more appropriate?lmao but on a serious note looks like no meaningful legislation will come out of the house in the near term ???? 

Just now, Tug said:

Perhaps a petunias would be more appropriate?lmao but on a serious note looks like no meaningful legislation will come out of the house in the near term ???? 

I'm going with snowflakes.

I missed the final vote…thought they were adjourning for the weekend after the chaos of the 14th vote.
 

McCarthys reaction and the argument/near brawl that ensued after that vote was worth the wait. Not sure what was said but it didn’t look cordial. 

As I said on a different thread, a speaker would eventually get elected when the holdouts got what they wanted ( or as much as possible of what they wanted ). Was quite speedy compared to the nearly two months it took in 1856.

5 hours ago, Tug said:

Perhaps a petunias would be more appropriate?lmao but on a serious note looks like no meaningful legislation will come out of the house in the near term ???? 

 

I'd say camellias.  They'll wilt on the vine forever but refuse to die.

 

 

Let's not forget that MAGA has no real policies: they stand for whatever DT said most recently.  And an hour later he'll likely deny saying it.  Let's not forget who is really running the GOP.  The babble and bravado is still where it's at.  Maybe we should all call him "my Kevin." 

These promises Kevin made can be reneged, and I'm sure there are others in his party who are resolving to keep the nutters who think they will be controlling him on a short leash.  (Actually I think Boebert would look hot on a short leash, but I digress). What, a politician not keeping a promise? 

And aren't certain people going to be floored if and when the Dems start using the motion to vacate just for the fun of it. 

This Republican Party is brought to you by the letter K.  As in Kevin.  And K Street.

 

 

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

As I said on a different thread, a speaker would eventually get elected when the holdouts got what they wanted ( or as much as possible of what they wanted ). Was quite speedy compared to the nearly two months it took in 1856.

As recently as 1856? Yes, this event was just a nothingburger.

Another concession revealed. "sweeping investigatory powers that include explicit authority to review “ongoing criminal investigations.”

 

Proposed GOP select panel would be empowered to review ‘ongoing criminal investigations’

A proposed subcommittee to investigate “weaponization” of the federal government — a key demand of House conservatives who delivered Speaker Kevin McCarthy the gavel — would be given sweeping investigatory powers that include explicit authority to review “ongoing criminal investigations.”

The language of the proposed “select subcommittee,” which would operate under the Judiciary Committee expected to be chaired by Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), also gives the panel power to access any information shared with the House Intelligence Committee. That panel typically receives the highest-level classified intelligence and briefings of any committee in Congress.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/07/gop-panel-criminal-investigations-00076890

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Another concession revealed. "sweeping investigatory powers that include explicit authority to review “ongoing criminal investigations.”

 

Proposed GOP select panel would be empowered to review ‘ongoing criminal investigations’

A proposed subcommittee to investigate “weaponization” of the federal government — a key demand of House conservatives who delivered Speaker Kevin McCarthy the gavel — would be given sweeping investigatory powers that include explicit authority to review “ongoing criminal investigations.”

The language of the proposed “select subcommittee,” which would operate under the Judiciary Committee expected to be chaired by Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), also gives the panel power to access any information shared with the House Intelligence Committee. That panel typically receives the highest-level classified intelligence and briefings of any committee in Congress.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/07/gop-panel-criminal-investigations-00076890

I've been thinking about this. I believe such subpoenas should be regarded as political grandstanding and should be resisted unless the committees can produce some evidence of a possible crime being committed (such as investigating a riot and evidence of a potential insurrection or an allegation of missing documents), not just a conspiracy theory that the FBI are part of some imaginary deep state. I believe that will be the process anyway.

17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Another concession revealed. "sweeping investigatory powers that include explicit authority to review “ongoing criminal investigations.”

 

Proposed GOP select panel would be empowered to review ‘ongoing criminal investigations’

A proposed subcommittee to investigate “weaponization” of the federal government — a key demand of House conservatives who delivered Speaker Kevin McCarthy the gavel — would be given sweeping investigatory powers that include explicit authority to review “ongoing criminal investigations.”

The language of the proposed “select subcommittee,” which would operate under the Judiciary Committee expected to be chaired by Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), also gives the panel power to access any information shared with the House Intelligence Committee. That panel typically receives the highest-level classified intelligence and briefings of any committee in Congress.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/07/gop-panel-criminal-investigations-00076890

Where's the sad emoji?