8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Obviously this is not comparable.

Maddow most likely believed what she said at the time early on based on reporsts.. She should have corrected herself when it turned out this wasn't true.

But nowhere is there any evidence that she spoke falsely, or didn't challenge falsehoods,  in order not to lose her viewers.

" most likely believed" great last words on this op. 

Just now, alex8912 said:

" most likely believed" great last words on this op. 

Given that her comments occurred very early on in the vaccination campaign, why would this be unlikely? What evidence can you offer that this was a lie rather than a mistake?

6 hours ago, Issanman said:

Makes one wonder how they can be the number one cable news channel for over 20 years.

 

Forbes:

The latest cable news ratings show that, every year since January 2002, Fox has been #1 in total day and primetime viewership as well as #1 in the key 25-54 demo.

For the same reason that the 'red top' newspapers in he UK have the biggest readership. The majority of people are really not too bright.

 

2 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

" most likely believed" great last words on this op. 

It's far more likely that the Fox News hosts who denigrated the vaccines and ludicrously exaggerated their danger were lying.

5 minutes ago, tontotoronto said:

Maddow most likely believed what she said at the time early on based on reporsts..

Maddow should recite facts and not her "beliefs", as a journalist. It's quite obvious with her ineptness and outright lies that their ratings (MSNBC) are well below FOX news.

I assume that Fox needs a license to broadcast, and receiving that license depends on it being an honourable and responsible organisation? And that now it will be withdrawn? Or will the licensing authority support Fox News's behaviour by letting it continue in business?

Just now, Bangkok Barry said:

I assume that Fox needs a license to broadcast, and receiving that license depends on it being an honourable and responsible organisation? And that now it will be withdrawn? Or will the licensing authority support Fox News's behaviour by letting it continue in business?

The First Amendment is a very powerful obstacle. 

Cnn discussing Fox hmmm laughable.
Since they all show highlights from the intolerable msnbc and cnn while employing  people like Rino  x speaker paul ryan I find on occasion 

I’m watching more of lesser known news podcasts  and watching experts like Dershowitch, Turley and Davis when they appear. Sure do miss Rush ! 

Ain’t nobody that can unshine Tucker’s commentary !

 

That all being said will mediafactcheckers organization take them out by giving them a disfavored rating !Conservative voices are on the edge of their seats ,wondering with anticipation!

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Just now, tontotoronto said:

LoL, u deflect to vaccines now. Time for you to throw the towel in. Guilty of murder, lol....

Wow. Let me see...who was the party that introduced vaccines into the discussion...oh wait...It was you!!!

18 minutes ago, tontotoronto said:

When you're No.1, consistently, there are always attacks and spiteful actions. FOX rules the cable news and shows world, obviously.

 

“Fox News opened 2023 as it closed 2022, as the most-watched basic cable network in total day, averaging 1.35 million total viewers from 6 a.m.-6 a.m. and marking 23 consecutive months at No. 1. in the daypart.”
“The month’s most-watched shows were all on Fox News, with The Five once again grabbing the title of highest-rated show in cable news with an average total audience of 3.378 million viewers. Tucker Carlson Tonight was second with 3.188 million viewers, followed by Jesse Watters Primetime (2.836 million viewers), Hannity (2.568 million viewers), and Special Report with Bret Baier (2.406 million viewers).” Source:

Cable News Ratings Tuesday February 14: Gutfeld! Beats Ingraham, Crushes CNN and MSNBC at 11 P.M
https://www.mediaite.com/daily-ratings/cable-news-ratings-tuesday-february-14-gutfeld-beats-ingraham-crushes-cnn-and-msnbc-at-11-p-m/

 

With 3.5 Million Viewers, Tucker Carlson Has The Week’s Highest-Rated Cable News Show

Source

 

Greg Gutfeld destroys rivals CNN, MSNBC ratings — twice in one day
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/greg-gutfeld-destroys-cnn-msnbc-ratings

Amazing how gullible the viewers are, they should try some basic fact checking rather than take everything in hook line and sinker but then again look at the crowd who stormed the Capitol. Hardly the brightest bunch

Interesting how Fox News crushes every other left wing news outlets such as MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS news programs in viewership. I would think this is because viewers trust Fox News as a much more reliable news outlets than the others.

5 minutes ago, tontotoronto said:

LoL, u deflect to vaccines now. Time for you to throw the towel in. Guilty of murder, lol....

And really not a deflection

Fox News' Worst Lies About Covid-19 From 2021

A recent study from the Kaiser Family Foundation found that Fox News viewers are more likely to believe covid-19 falsehoods than people who consumer other mainstream news sources. And yet, Fox News itself has a covid-19 vaccine mandate, despite talking heads on the channel railing against them.

https://gizmodo.com/fox-news-worst-lies-about-covid-19-from-2021-1848285665

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Wow. Let me see...who was the party that introduced vaccines into the discussion...oh wait...It was you!!!

vaccination rates huh, okay you dwell on it. Fact is MSNBC spreads misinformation based on their "beliefs". They should be announcers at the annual Walmart employee picnic and nothing more.

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

but then again look at the crowd who stormed the Capitol. Hardly the brightest bunch

this has what exactly to do with....FOX news and their No. 1 ratings?

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

Cnn discussing Fox hmmm laughable.
Since they all show highlights from the intolerable msnbc and cnn while employing  people like Rino  x speaker paul ryan I find on occasion 

I’m watching more of lesser known news podcasts  and watching experts like Dershowitch, Turley and Davis when they appear. Sure do miss Rush ! 

Ain’t nobody that can unshine Tucker’s commentary !

Both Dershowitz and Turley, unlike most of the community of legal scholars, thought that Durham last 2 cases were strong. They also supported Judge Aileen "Loose" Cannon's appointment of a Special Master which got tossed scornfully by a panel consisting of 2 conservative and 1 liberal judge.

And Carlson's lies about covid vaccines endear him to you?

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And really not a deflection

Fox News' Worst Lies About Covid-19 From 2021

A recent study from the Kaiser Family Foundation found that Fox News viewers are more likely to believe covid-19 falsehoods than people who consumer other mainstream news sources. And yet, Fox News itself has a covid-19 vaccine mandate, despite talking heads on the channel railing against them.

https://gizmodo.com/fox-news-worst-lies-about-covid-19-from-2021-1848285665

Oh well, nice attempt, but FOX News, Tucker Carlson, the Five, Dan Bongino, Gutfeld et al rule the cable news and shows world...PERIOD.

1 minute ago, tontotoronto said:

this has what exactly to do with....FOX news and their No. 1 ratings?

What do their rating have to do with the fact that these commentators knew that they were peddling lies?

And, given Fox News viewers appetite for fiction (election was stolen) why should we be surprised that Fox is doing so well? And keep in mind that all the cable news programs skew to a much older audience.

1 minute ago, tontotoronto said:

Oh well, nice attempt, but FOX News, Tucker Carlson, the Five, Dan Bongino, Gutfeld et al rule the cable news and shows world...PERIOD.

And this proves that they're not dishonest even though there's hard evidence that conclusively establishes otherwise?

Just now, tontotoronto said:

And Carlson's lies about covid vaccines endear him to you?

What lies, enlighten us, if you dare.

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3 minutes ago, tontotoronto said:

this has what exactly to do with....FOX news and their No. 1 ratings?

It has everything to do with the topic and their elections lies that fueled so many gullible viewers

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Methinks you confuse the top guys at Fox with journalists. They are businessmen that want to make a profit- end of.

And yet, it was *ucker and friends contacting the brass to raise the alarm that the faithful weren't buying the truth and they needed to tack towards the big lie the preserve viewership, as evidenced in the OP. 

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

This could probably be said about most of the mainstream media and politicians. 

No it could not. Fox are willfully playing their audience for profit.

 

38 minutes ago, tontotoronto said:

Viewers demand apology from MSNBC, Rachel Maddow for previous COVID vaccine comments

"Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person," Maddow said on her show the evening of March 29, 2021. 

 

No bigger liar and fact distorting fraud than MSNBC Rachel.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/social-media-users-demand-apology-msnbc-rachel-maddow-vaccines

That was before omicron when vaccines worked against infection. She was justified in saying that at the time.

 

Just now, Keep Right said:

We already have.

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

It has everything to do with the topic and their elections lies that fueled so many gullible viewers

Your opinion, and only an opinion. Oh well, FOX, especially Tucker Carlson are highly rated and for good reason.

34 minutes ago, Keep Right said:

Interesting how Fox News crushes every other left wing news outlets such as MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS news programs in viewership. I would think this is because viewers trust Fox News as a much more reliable news outlets than the others.

Years ago they had show stopping blonde figures with very attractive legs. Now people like Susan Smith are behind a desk!

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1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

That was before omicron when vaccines worked against infection. She was justified in saying that at the time.

About as justified as any lying, misinformed fake news spreader. She's not a doctor, epidemiologist, etc, she has no business spewing her beliefs and the narrative controlled by her handlers.

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Is Dr. Marc Siegel a regular Fox News Host? How does is presence on Fox News compare to Tucker Carlson's?

 

Video: Tucker Carlson Misrepresents Vaccine Safety Reporting Data

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/scicheck-video-tucker-carlson-misrepresents-vaccine-safety-reporting-data/

 

Fox News host Tucker Carlson compares vaccine mandates to ‘Nazi experiments

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jan/22/tucker-carlson-compares-us-vaccine-mandates-nazi-medical-experiments

 

Tucker Carlson calls medical experts ‘witch doctors’ as right-wing figures spread anti-vaccine misinformation after Damar Hamlin’s collapse

On his programme that night, Fox News personality Tucker Carlson falsely stated that Mr Hamlin endured a “heart attack” and said medical experts who dismissed Covid-19-related conspiracy theories are “lying” and “witch doctors”.

https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-calls-medical-experts-164539537.html

 

Tucker Carlson undermined COVID vaccines 99% of the time his show discussed them

https://baptistnews.com/article/tucker-carlson-undermined-covid-vaccines-99-of-the-time-his-show-discussed-them/

 

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

This could probably be said about most of the mainstream media and politicians. 

More like it's probable that you would write such a thing.

4 minutes ago, tontotoronto said:

Your opinion, and only an opinion. Oh well, FOX, especially Tucker Carlson are highly rated and for good reason.

Hardly my opinion, its in the legal filings from Fox news staff themselves, you should read the OP and other links. "Fox leaders worried turning away from false allegations of voter fraud would hurt their brand"

 

Yes we know Carlson is highly rated by the gullible, his own lawyers admitted he does not provide facts................lol

You Literally Can't Believe The Facts Tucker Carlson Tells You. So Say Fox's Lawyers

 

5 hours ago, Tug said:

Sir There are lots of real journalists a lot of them give their lives in pursuit of the truth bucko fox is the lowest scum of the earth deliberately lying in pursuit of money and ratings to me they are traitors I hope dominion gets a HUGE settlement they should be put out of business 

The problem extends through the MSM, not just Fox. Remove the profit motive, make network news advertiser free, "opinion" show free, and a requirement of licensing.