Tragic death of Uyghur Muslim in Immigration detention raises case of 50 men seeking asylum

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Azib Abduallah with his wife and family before they decided to leave China and trek towards Malaysia before being detained in Thailand in late 2013. The Uyghur Muslim man was detained by the Immigration Bureau for over nine years and separated from his wife and children in 2015 while later being held at the Immigration Detention Centre (IDC) in Bangkok where he died last week from a reported lung infection.

 

by James Morris and Son Nguyen

Human rights groups and NGOs including the UNHCR are hoping the death of the 49-year-old man who was held for over nine years after he arrived in Thailand seeking to reach refuge in a Muslim country, will lead to an end to the nightmare of imprisonment for up to 50 Uyghur men who activists say arrived in Thailand seeking political asylum from oppression in China.

The death this week of a long-term Uyghur detainee at the Immigration Detention Centre (IDC) in central Bangkok has focused attention on the plight of up to 50 Uighur men being held by the Immigration Bureau in Thailand who are seeking political asylum in a Muslim country but are being held in legal limbo because of reported pressure from Chinese authorities in Beijing. 

 

Human rights groups and campaigners including representatives of the UNHCR have raised the plight of up to 50 Uyghur Muslims who are being detained at Bangkok’s notorious Immigration Detention Centre in the centre of the capital following the reported death this week of 49-year-old Aziz Abdullah from what medics who examined him later diagnosed as a lung infection. The Uyghur man had been held in Thailand for nine years by the Immigration Bureau.

 

Full story: https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/02/24/death-of-uyghur-muslim-held-by-immigration-aziz-abdullah/

 

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[Harsh Jones]

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seeking political asylum from oppression in China.

They are charged with actual crimes in China. 

[herfiehandbag]

6 minutes ago, Harsh Jones said:

They are charged with actual crimes in China. 

And he spent 9 years (!) in prison in Thailand, and died from a disease he contracted in prison - a prison notorious for overcrowding. No trial, no representation, 9 years and died.

 

"Harsh" doesn't even begin to cover it.

[bamnutsak]

Prompts the question: How many die in Immigration detention facilities?

[BananaStrong]

15 minutes ago, Harsh Jones said:

They are charged with actual crimes in China. 

I think just being Uyghur Muslim in China is a crime.   

 

But if China says it's a crime, I guess we might as well blame the muslim!!!!!

 

Many countries charge minorities with actual crimes, which is generally not believed by an educated person and is a crime against humanity.

Edited February 25, 2023 by BananaStrong

[zzaa09]

7 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

And he spent 9 years (!) in prison in Thailand, and died from a disease he contracted in prison - a prison notorious for overcrowding. No trial, no representation, 9 years and died.

 

"Harsh" doesn't even begin to cover it.

Better off in Xinjiang....

[MikeandDow]

This is Disgusting, 9yrs for What !!!.   (Thailand trying to move up the ranking on human rights,not a chance) Thailand will not do anything  to help these people, why the Chines masters might not like,  Thailand now not a 3rd world country more like a 4th,only interested in pleasing there chines masters  

Edited February 25, 2023 by MikeandDow

[herfiehandbag]

12 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

Better off in Xinjiang....

Even better off in Malaysia, where he was heading apparently, with his wife and children.

 

Thailand doing China's dirty work.

Edited February 25, 2023 by herfiehandbag

[ignore it]

The embassy of the large asian country from which he fled has requested the body so as to repatriate it.

 

If not possible, they may be happy with some of the transplantable fresh bits.

Edited February 25, 2023 by ignore it
For political correctness

[AsiaCheese]

12 hours ago, BananaStrong said:

I think just being Uyghur Muslim in China is a crime.   

 

But if China says it's a crime, I guess we might as well blame the muslim!!!!!

 

Many countries charge minorities with actual crimes, which is generally not believed by an educated person and is a crime against humanity.

Unless you're an avid reader of NYT or any of a number of "China bad" publications, and don't get your news via NED associated "NGOs", you might have seen that Uyghurs are actually treated like anyone else in China, pretty much regardless of religion etc. - unless they stick out for actual crimes, like *everybody* else in China, regardless of where in the country or what religion they follow (there are countless churches, mosques, synagogues and what-have-you's, in the open and accepted by the state). But the flood of negative comments / propaganda from the West is unbelievable - I don't blame people for thinking that China is a hellhole, because it's actually not easy to get past fake and channelled information/news!

[sammieuk1]

Hub of human rights and asylum seekers but in reality just an asylum ????

[Sandboxer]

Ship them all to Nauru.

[kickstart]

Aziz Abdullah: Uyghur asylum-seeker death heaps pressure on Thailand - BBC News

 

I was wondering if AN would run this article, the link is from the BBC, from 4 days ago.

This being typical of Thailand, the second to last paragraph sums it up, cannot upset the masters. 

[spidermike007]

Thailand does not have the guts, nor the moral conviction to defy the Chinese masters. If China says they committed a crime, look at the ethnicity first, of the person being blamed. Anything the CCP says is likely a lie. They share the moral bankruptcy of the Thai government. 

 

They were likely trying to seek asylum in Malaysia. How did they end up in Thailand, a nation with little sympathy towards asylum seekers?

Edited February 25, 2023 by spidermike007

[zzaa09]

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

Thailand does not have the guts, nor the moral conviction to defy China. If China says they committed a crime, look at the ethnicity first, of the person being blamed. Anything the CCP says is likely a lie. They share the moral bankruptcy of the Thai government. 

 

They were likely trying to seek asylum in Malaysia. How did they end up in Thailand, a nation with little sympathy towards asylum seekers?

As is the history with Khmer, Lao, Burman and Karen. 

[herfiehandbag]

11 hours ago, AsiaCheese said:

Unless you're an avid reader of NYT or any of a number of "China bad" publications, and don't get your news via NED associated "NGOs", you might have seen that Uyghurs are actually treated like anyone else in China, pretty much regardless of religion etc. - unless they stick out for actual crimes, like *everybody* else in China, regardless of where in the country or what religion they follow (there are countless churches, mosques, synagogues and what-have-you's, in the open and accepted by the state). But the flood of negative comments / propaganda from the West is unbelievable - I don't blame people for thinking that China is a hellhole, because it's actually not easy to get past fake and channelled information/news!

The scale of the repressive methods employed against the Uyghur people, and in particular the massive concentration camps in which many are detained and families dismantled is widely documented by media who span the whole gamut of political opinion, and from a wide variety of countries.

 

Churches, synagogues mosques and what have you are tolerated in China as long as they dance to the party tune. If not they are forced to operate "underground" and often are suppressed.

 

There is a case that the Chinese regime is doing to the Uyghurs exactly what they did to the Tibetans two generations ago.

[BritScot]

On 2/25/2023 at 12:03 AM, Harsh Jones said:

They are charged with actual crimes in China. 

Really, a rather unbelievable statement.  A possible crime might be "leaving China with their organs intact". Try doing some research and you may be horrified, then maybe not!!!

[BritScot]

20 hours ago, AsiaCheese said:

Unless you're an avid reader of NYT or any of a number of "China bad" publications, and don't get your news via NED associated "NGOs", you might have seen that Uyghurs are actually treated like anyone else in China, pretty much regardless of religion etc. - unless they stick out for actual crimes, like *everybody* else in China, regardless of where in the country or what religion they follow (there are countless churches, mosques, synagogues and what-have-you's, in the open and accepted by the state). But the flood of negative comments / propaganda from the West is unbelievable - I don't blame people for thinking that China is a hellhole, because it's actually not easy to get past fake and channelled information/news!

Wow! What utter dribble straight from the CCP manual! China is not bad but the CCP are pure evil. 

[Denim]

20 hours ago, AsiaCheese said:

But the flood of negative comments / propaganda from the West is unbelievable - I don't blame people for thinking that China is a hellhole, because it's actually not easy to get past fake and channelled information/news!

So....which news outlets meet with your approval ? Which news outlets give a totally unbiased report about the plight of the Uyghurs ?