Isan Farang Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just received my first life form, went to Bangkok Bank and the manager told me they will not sign. Can someone here tell me whare they went in Ubon to get the witness declaration completed & signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Do it yourself, its not as if they can check. As long as they get it back is what matters to prove you are still alive. If you must ask the dentist or a cop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeseeker Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) Bangkok bank seem to have policy not to sign. Unlawful to sign yourself. Irrelevant you can get away with that. A friendly pharmacist or similar may sign! Or pay a lawyer to do it. Edited March 13, 2023 by homeseeker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, homeseeker said: Bangkok bank seem to have policy not to sign. Unlawful to sign yourself. Irrelevant you can get away with that. A friendly pharmacist or similar may sign! Or pay a lawyer to do it. You only need to be a respectable member of the community.....that covers most of the people I know. No need to pay anybody. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post worgeordie Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, proton said: Do it yourself, its not as if they can check. As long as they get it back is what matters to prove you are still alive. If you must ask the dentist or a cop. The important thing is to get the stamp (chop) from person signing the form for you , doing it yourself not possible ... I use chemist. regards Worgeordie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yosib157 Posted March 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2023 Being retired from UK Government Service, I used to sign for fellow Brits and none was ever declined. However, a month ago when mine arrived at our new address, I noticed some significant changes from previous forms and having only lived in this isolated area for 18 months, I didn't know who ask. So off to my ttb bank where they instantly refused point blank even though I've had the account for 20 years. Right out of the blue, my missus suggested driving 65km to Roi Et Immigration where they willingly obliged, naturally, for a small donation. The Officer concerned was a Lieutenant Colonel no less so it should be OK. I have information they are tightening up on these forms so signing your own may cause future problems. 18 months ago a 74 year old friend of mine received his first as he had never told them he was here. Wrong advice from the wrong person who said they would never find out -- until they stopped his pension. The guy is now back in Blighty living in a Salvation Army Hostel or similar trying to pay back 7 years of over payments. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinL Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, worgeordie said: The important thing is to get the stamp (chop) from person signing the form for you , doing it yourself not possible ... I've signed a number of these plus passport apps. and have never had a stamp to use. I always provide a copy of the Membership certificate from my old engineering institution to return with the form. Never a problem - quite likely they never look at it or check. Membership expired long ago but it shows I WAS an "engineer with professional qualifications", to quote the eligibility criteria for signatories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackleton Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I had my doctor in the hospital sign and stamp mine up Same 2 years ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homeseeker Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) As long as it signed by a designated person I not not aware a stamp or chop is necessary but maybe new rules. Edited March 13, 2023 by homeseeker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidneyw Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I had it done at a dentists that I even did not use for dental work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Some of the posters on hear seem to assume it has to be a Thai who signs. There are many expats in the community that qualify as a signatory. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Some of the posters on hear seem to assume it has to be a Thai who signs. There are many expats in the community that qualify as a signatory. Indeed, and a stamp is not mandatory, though preferred.... Fill the form in send it off, wait about a month and ring them up to find out if they received it and all is well. You will be asked a few security questions, have your N.I. number ready... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, transam said: Indeed, and a stamp is not mandatory, though preferred.... Fill the form in send it off, wait about a month and ring them up to find out if they received it and all is well. You will be asked a few security questions, have your N.I. number ready... T.....it is not preferred, it is no longer required. My advice would be different to yours. I wouldn't waste time calling them, I would act by default on the basis that 99% will get through the postal system...if my pension was not received on the due date then I would call Newcastle who will immediately reinstate the pension on the strength of that phone call. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, hotandsticky said: T.....it is not preferred, it is no longer required. My advice would be different to yours. I wouldn't waste time calling them, I would act by default on the basis that 99% will get through the postal system...if my pension was not received on the due date then I would call Newcastle who will immediately reinstate the pension on the strength of that phone call. I am one that cannot afford to have my pension stopped, and go through the delay sorting thingy. My advice has served me well for many a year, and I still wear a mask in shops....???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, transam said: I am one that cannot afford to have my pension stopped, and go through the delay sorting thingy. My advice has served me well for many a year, and I still wear a mask in shops....???? Double condoms ? ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: Double condoms ? ???? Never used them, same as I never had a bath with my socks on.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CartagenaWarlock Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 hours ago, hotandsticky said: You only need to be a respectable member of the community.....that covers most of the people I know. How would they know who is a respectable person of the community? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CartagenaWarlock Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said: Some of the posters on hear seem to assume it has to be a Thai who signs. There are many expats in the community that qualify as a signatory. So, basically any random person sitting in a brothel or walking in the mall or even a homeless person on the street can sign it. I bet one can find such a person for 100 baht. What is the point of the signature? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, CartagenaWarlock said: So, basically any random person sitting in a brothel or walking in the mall or even a homeless person on the street can sign it. I bet one can find such a person for 100 baht. What is the point of the signature? No............Most faragy's here have Thai extended family who have a gov job, school teacher etc, they can sign and put the school stamp, I know a few that do that with no problem... Even a Thai business owner can do it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, CartagenaWarlock said: How would they know who is a respectable person of the community? ???? They don't. Unless they do a random check - which I have never heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, CartagenaWarlock said: So, basically any random person sitting in a brothel or walking in the mall or even a homeless person on the street can sign it. I bet one can find such a person for 100 baht. What is the point of the signature? No brothels, there is no prostitution in Thailand. But if there were whores I am sure many are more respectable than most politicians - or police! Why pay 100 Baht, I sign them for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 hours ago, homeseeker said: Bangkok bank seem to have policy not to sign. Unlawful to sign yourself. Irrelevant you can get away with that. A friendly pharmacist or similar may sign! Or pay a lawyer to do it. Unlawful? Remind me again of the penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youreavinalaff Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, CartagenaWarlock said: So, basically any random person sitting in a brothel or walking in the mall or even a homeless person on the street can sign it. I bet one can find such a person for 100 baht. What is the point of the signature? No. I used the word " qualify". There is advice on who qualifies sent with the form. In my local area there is an ex bank manager and an ex aircraft engineer that qualify. Edited March 13, 2023 by youreavinalaff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindancer Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, yosib157 said: Being retired from UK Government Service, I used to sign for fellow Brits and none was ever declined. However, a month ago when mine arrived at our new address, I noticed some significant changes from previous forms and having only lived in this isolated area for 18 months, I didn't know who ask. So off to my ttb bank where they instantly refused point blank even though I've had the account for 20 years. Right out of the blue, my missus suggested driving 65km to Roi Et Immigration where they willingly obliged, naturally, for a small donation. The Officer concerned was a Lieutenant Colonel no less so it should be OK. I have information they are tightening up on these forms so signing your own may cause future problems. 18 months ago a 74 year old friend of mine received his first as he had never told them he was here. Wrong advice from the wrong person who said they would never find out -- until they stopped his pension. The guy is now back in Blighty living in a Salvation Army Hostel or similar trying to pay back 7 years of over payments. Oh really?? And how did they contact him here, if they didn't know he was here. Sounds a bit far fetched. And if he was 74, he would have had to pay back 9 years, not 7 years. And why would he return to UK to pay it back, living here is cheaper. Some inconsistency in this. Edited March 13, 2023 by Raindancer Amendment 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isan Farang Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 hours ago, yosib157 said: Being retired from UK Government Service, I used to sign for fellow Brits and none was ever declined. However, a month ago when mine arrived at our new address, I noticed some significant changes from previous forms and having only lived in this isolated area for 18 months, I didn't know who ask. So off to my ttb bank where they instantly refused point blank even though I've had the account for 20 years. Right out of the blue, my missus suggested driving 65km to Roi Et Immigration where they willingly obliged, naturally, for a small donation. The Officer concerned was a Lieutenant Colonel no less so it should be OK. I have information they are tightening up on these forms so signing your own may cause future problems. 18 months ago a 74 year old friend of mine received his first as he had never told them he was here. Wrong advice from the wrong person who said they would never find out -- until they stopped his pension. The guy is now back in Blighty living in a Salvation Army Hostel or similar trying to pay back 7 years of over payments. Aye you can spin a fair tale or three 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindancer Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, Isan Farang said: Aye you can spin a fair tale or three Thought it was just me hearing a fairy tale???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isan Farang Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Raindancer said: Thought it was just me hearing a fairy tale???????? Gold star for this quote The Officer concerned was a Lieutenant Colonel no less so it should be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raindancer Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Isan Farang said: Gold star for this quote The Officer concerned was a Lieutenant Colonel no less so it should be OK. Post deleted by user Edited March 13, 2023 by Raindancer Correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 (edited) Being married to the aunty of our village Phu Ya Ban, I have no difficulty in finding a 'person of good standing within the community' to sign for me. ???? Edited March 30, 2023 by Moonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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