placeholder Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Really ? He was acquitted of all charges Donald Trump has been acquitted of a single impeachment charge that he incited a mob to storm the US Capitol. So what did the president say prior to the violence? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55640437 Neither impeachment nor trial in the Senate are criminal processes. And one crucial way they differ is that the juries are not vetted and selected from a larger pool to warrant their impartiality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, placeholder said: Neither impeachment nor trial in the Senate are criminal processes. And one crucial way they differ is that the juries are not vetted and selected from a larger pool to warrant their impartiality. Yes they are political trials only and there are no criminal consequences to being convicted in the senate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) several folks have predicted possible civil war in US around mid 2020s he appears to be the main catalyst Edited March 19, 2023 by save the frogs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Yankeesvsredsox said: Must be another liberal opinion piece from the IUK. He never called for violence! “the leading 2024 Republican candidate for president has suggested that his supporters could respond to his election loss or potentially imminent indictments with violence”. Here is another reporting from the same news company!https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-arrest-tuesday-protest-b2303491.html https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-independent/ that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. Correct. IMO the pro swamp media has done a classic hatchet job on him for daring to oppose their cosy club of drones. Anyone not knowing the facts would think he was a really bad guy, but some of us can look at him objectively and see a flawed human that at least tried to do something to rescue the US from the Washington swamp. Given by the millions that support him, a large part of the citizenry are also able to see through the propaganda. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, save the frogs said: several folks have predicted possible civil war in US around mid 2020s he appears to be the main catalyst If so, we know which side has the most guns, and are prepared to use them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted March 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2023 Seems that the US is heading for a crisis, and while Trump is not the cause, he may be the catalyst that starts it off. IMO I don't think the anti Trumpers understand that he is a symbol of resistance to the Washington swamp, and just how much a large part of the US hates Washington. IMO all the attacks on Trump are just an attempt to remove a thorn from the side of the Washington drones club, so they can get back to business as usual. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liddelljohn Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Put him in the same cell as Putin and let them <deleted> each other 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 hours ago, liddelljohn said: Put him in the same cell as Putin and let them <deleted> each other Excellent post. Keep 'em coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Correct. IMO the pro swamp media has done a classic hatchet job on him for daring to oppose their cosy club of drones. Anyone not knowing the facts would think he was a really bad guy, but some of us can look at him objectively and see a flawed human that at least tried to do something to rescue the US from the Washington swamp. Given by the millions that support him, a large part of the citizenry are also able to see through the propaganda. Alternatively, the millions who support him have swallowed propaganda. ’Swamp Media’ Is that the media business currently in court face a $1.6 Billion law suit with everyone from presenters to executives admitting to telling lies? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Seems that the US is heading for a crisis, and while Trump is not the cause, he may be the catalyst that starts it off. IMO I don't think the anti Trumpers understand that he is a symbol of resistance to the Washington swamp, and just how much a large part of the US hates Washington. IMO all the attacks on Trump are just an attempt to remove a thorn from the side of the Washington drones club, so they can get back to business as usual. The electorate removed Trump from office. There are no ‘attacks on Trump’, he’s under multiple criminal investigations for crimes he committed in plain sight. The news on that from only gets better. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Seems that the US is heading for a crisis, and while Trump is not the cause, he may be the catalyst that starts it off. IMO I don't think the anti Trumpers understand that he is a symbol of resistance to the Washington swamp, and just how much a large part of the US hates Washington. IMO all the attacks on Trump are just an attempt to remove a thorn from the side of the Washington drones club, so they can get back to business as usual. It's impressive how he fought the swamp by being pro-big business, i.e. by giving tax cuts to the rich.... not to mention his shameless nepotism. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 Good reason why the judge should deny bail.Trump is simply an idiot acting on his impulse and not listening to his legal advisers. This Mahattan case is low-level felony and his attempt to incite protest will have a huge bearing on whether bail will be granted for other more serious charges. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Never mind chilling, I prefer mine chilled. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Eric Loh said: Good reason why the judge should deny bail.Trump is simply an idiot acting on his impulse and not listening to his legal advisers. This Mahattan case is low-level felony and his attempt to incite protest will have a huge bearing on whether bail will be granted for other more serious charges. It is not illegal to "incite protest" People have the right and freedom to protest about things they disagree with 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Some nonsensical trolling posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: It is not illegal to "incite protest" People have the right and freedom to protest about things they disagree with Sorry mate, you so wrong. Depending on the jurisdiction, some or all types of incitement may be illegal. Even when harm may or may not have actually occurred, they are illegal under inchoate offense. Trump’s past history of incitements resulting in violence have a negative impact should he be investigated for incitement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Sorry mate, you so wrong. Depending on the jurisdiction, some or all types of incitement may be illegal. Even when harm may or may not have actually occurred, they are illegal under inchoate offense. Trump’s past history of incitements resulting in violence have a negative impact should he be investigated for incitement. Protest is legal . How can Trump suggestion to people to protest be illegal ? Inciting violence is illegal , calling on people to protest isn't illegal 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Protest is legal . How can Trump suggestion to people to protest be illegal ? Inciting violence is illegal , calling on people to protest isn't illegal You posted this "It is not illegal to "incite protest" and I replied within that legal context. Incite is a riot defination and calls for people to behave in a violent or illegal way. In any case, Trump called for protest has meet with muted reactions from supporters with some of his ardent loyalists dismissing the idea as a waste of time. People are waking up to his antics and see him more as a liability to the party and to the country. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Another nonsensical trolling post has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Here is a link to the above brilliant article; "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?" - by Nate White (linkedin.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Seems that the US is heading for a crisis, and while Trump is not the cause, he may be the catalyst that starts it off. IMO I don't think the anti Trumpers understand that he is a symbol of resistance to the Washington swamp, and just how much a large part of the US hates Washington. You are right, but it's a pity they couldn't find a better role model. I mean, it's a very big country, and he is the best that can represent the Washington haters? Edited March 20, 2023 by Bangkok Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cory1848 Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Seems that the US is heading for a crisis, and while Trump is not the cause, he may be the catalyst that starts it off. IMO I don't think the anti Trumpers understand that he is a symbol of resistance to the Washington swamp, and just how much a large part of the US hates Washington. IMO all the attacks on Trump are just an attempt to remove a thorn from the side of the Washington drones club, so they can get back to business as usual. But Trump IS business as usual! With his billionaire cabinet, billionaire donors, billionaire tax cuts, and so on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cory1848 Posted March 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 20, 2023 13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: If so, we know which side has the most guns, and are prepared to use them. ??? You mean, people who support Trump have “the most guns” should they wish to overthrow another election that he loses? “More guns” than whom? The federal government (the real one, that is) has at its disposal, for instance, missiles it can send halfway around the world, land in a specified tent, and hit a camel in the butt (as George W. Bush famously said, making a sarcastic point). So you wanna tell me again about your assault rifle? Get real. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosLobo Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Protest is legal . How can Trump suggestion to people to protest be illegal ? Inciting violence is illegal , calling on people to protest isn't illegal So you would consider that Trump telling "his supporters to start arming themselves for a civil war to overthrow the government" is illegal then? Edited March 20, 2023 by LosLobo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) Actually, I think this whole thing is overblown. It was one thing for Trump to call for a demonstration that was going to be "wild" when he was President. It's quite another thing now. For all the dire consequences predicted in the wake of the FBI's search of Mar y Lago, and the threats made by MAGA supporters, nothing consequential followed. Edited March 20, 2023 by placeholder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Better than the most outrageous soap opera. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, LosLobo said: So you would consider that Trump telling "his supporters to start arming themselves for a civil war to overthrow the government" is illegal then? I do find it rather difficult to follow these twitter posts Did Trump say the sentance that you put in quotation marks ? Did Trump say to "his supporters to start arming themselves for a civil war to overthrow the government"? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusion58 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Benedict Donald trying to rally the confederate troops for a 1/6 redux. BTW, tRump didn't explicitly "call for violence" on that occasion either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 4:49 PM, OneMoreFarang said: Just lock him up. I am still surprised why he still is running around free. In any other country he would have been thrown into jail or executed because of treason. Gee I thought the US was in N. America, not S. America! 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, 300sd said: Gee I thought the US was in N. America, not S. America! Naaa if it were South America mr trump would have been imprisoned or worse long ago.meanwhile the republican elected officials (not the nutters) are desperately hoping the DOJ and other state charges will finally make trump pay consequences for his actions and excise this cancer off the body politic as they cower terrified of their constituents as far as his base demonstrating meh ???? possibly a few any violence will be snuffed out quickly it’s more of old Donnie bleating and squealing no more than that and a big shout out to Bangkok Berry thanks it is spot on thankyou! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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