Former president Donald Trump has roundly rejected any investigations involving him, his campaign or business empire as a hoax, a fraud or a politically motivated hit job against him or his agenda.

In January, his company was fined $1.6m after two of its entities were convicted of 17 felonies, marking the first time that the former president and his empire – bolstered by a “culture of fraud and deception,” according to prosecutors – faced criminal consequences after he spent decades trying to avoid them.

 

Now at the centre of separate investigations from the US Department of Justice and from prosecutors in his hometown of New York and in Georgia, a state he lost to Joe Biden but where he pressed election officials to overturn the results, the leading 2024 Republican candidate for president has suggested that his supporters could respond to his election loss or potentially imminent indictments with violence.

Just lock him up.

 

I am still surprised why he still is running around free. In any other country he would have been thrown into jail or executed because of treason.

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

Just lock him up.

 

I am still surprised why he still is running around free. In any other country he would have been thrown into jail or executed because of treason.

In the UK he would have been made a Lord and given a seat on the board of several major banks.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

In the UK he would have been made a Lord and given a seat on the board of several major banks.

Have you a link for that......

If there is an indictment, it will sink him permanently. He is just squealing like a stuck pig right now. Nobody will give up their life for this worthless lying lump of lard. Any indictment would end his career permanently.

14 minutes ago, transam said:

Have you a link for that......

No, he hasn't. 

55 minutes ago, John Drake said:

If there is an indictment, it will sink him permanently. He is just squealing like a stuck pig right now. Nobody will give up their life for this worthless lying lump of lard. Any indictment would end his career permanently.

But who will explain all that to him?

Poor Donnie now he wants to start a civil war so he doesn’t have to suffer the consequences of his actions ie trying to rig the election then when that failed tryed a coup personally I don’t think many will show up for his (war) he will continue to bleat and squeal trying to get attention.just another reason not to let this mentality case any were near the reins of power 

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

In the UK he would have been made a Lord and given a seat on the board of several major banks.

That's really unfair BM2.  Lady Mone was already a lady (apparently) and now she's had to do a runner with all that lovely loot.

He's a kind of terrorist now. 

 

He cares nothing about America. He's willing to destroy America just to save his grifter ass. 

 

I would rate America's enemies now this way:

 

Russia

Trump

China

 

The founders could only do so much.

They could have never imagined a trump.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He's a kind of terrorist now. 

 

He cares nothing about America. He's willing to destroy America just to save his grifter ass. 

 

I would rate America's enemies now this way:

 

Russia

Trump

China

 

The founders could only so much.

They could have never imagined a trump.

 

 

Agree with all you have written but have a few remarks:

 

"He's a kind of terrorist now."

Now? He crossed that line when attempting to perform a coup.

 

"He cares nothing about America. He's willing to destroy America just to save his grifter ass."

And that's what he's been like since forever. What's scary is that it's blatantly obvious and yet millions voted for him.

 

"I would rate America's enemies now this way: Russia, Trump, China"

I would add Fox News somewhere near the top of that list. A propaganda for profit organization twisting the minds of millions of "non-critical thinkers".

 

"The founders could only so much. They could have never imagined a trump."

To be fair, it would take a particularly twisted and sick mind to imagine something as heinous as trump. 

There is the hope that his incitement of civil war can be seen by judges in cases as fair grounds to imprison and muzzle him, as would happen with any other TERRORIST. 

Must be another liberal opinion piece from the IUK.

He never called for violence!

“the leading 2024 Republican candidate for president has suggested that his supporters could respond to his election loss or potentially imminent indictments with violence”.

Here is another reporting from the same news company!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-arrest-tuesday-protest-b2303491.html

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-independent/

that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  

2 minutes ago, Yankeesvsredsox said:

Must be another liberal opinion piece from the IUK.

He never called for violence!

“the leading 2024 Republican candidate for president has suggested that his supporters could respond to his election loss or potentially imminent indictments with violence”.

Here is another reporting from the same news company!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-arrest-tuesday-protest-b2303491.html

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-independent/

that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes.  

It doesn’t matter.

 

NY is prepared to deal with Trumpist violence.

 

 

 

there are of course at least three other indictments in the offing:

 

Georgia, vote riffing
J6 Insurrection

Mar a Largo Classified Documents 

 

 

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

the leading 2024 Republican candidate for president has suggested that his supporters could respond to his election loss or potentially imminent indictments with violence.

Although Trump just asked his supporters to protest if he gets arrested  , he didn't mention anything about "violence" , that bit was added by the journalist .

He did not specifically ask his supporters to use violence as that would open him to a charge of incitement, but he did use language very similar to Jan 6

"Protest - take our country back"

The indictment he is facing relates to the payment to Stormy Daniels and campaign finance - which may seem minor but could be a criminal offence, a little like Al Capone being taken down for tax evasion.

15 minutes ago, SatEng said:

He did not specifically ask his supporters to use violence as that would open him to a charge of incitement, but he did use language very similar to Jan 6

"Protest - take our country back"

The indictment he is facing relates to the payment to Stormy Daniels and campaign finance - which may seem minor but could be a criminal offence, a little like Al Capone being taken down for tax evasion.

Yes, Trump didn't tell his supporters to use violence BUT , that's what he probably meant and so may as well report it as Trump telling his supporters' to use violence ????

   I do think that that can be classified as being Fake news , Trump telling his supporters to use violence 

28 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Yes, Trump didn't tell his supporters to use violence BUT , that's what he probably meant and so may as well report it as Trump telling his supporters' to use violence ????

   I do think that that can be classified as being Fake news , Trump telling his supporters to use violence 

Using the dog whistle: "Show them your strength", "Take back our country". He doesn't need to be explicit; they understand.

8 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Using the dog whistle: "Show them your strength", "Take back our country". He doesn't need to be explicit; they understand.

Do the terms "Show them your strength " and "Take back your Country" mean to use violence ?

   (I cannot see anywhere in the story where it says "Show them your strength" , but I have promised myself NOT to get into yet another discussion about what Trump has said and what he meant by his words  )

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Do the terms "Show them your strength " and "Take back your Country" mean to use violence ?

   (I cannot see anywhere in the story where it says "Show them your strength" , but I have promised myself NOT to get into yet another discussion about what Trump has said and what he meant by his words  )

It sure seemed to on January 6, 2021.

1 minute ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

It sure seemed to on January 6, 2021.

It seems that Biden's supporters really want the Republicans to violently protest and riot, seems like they are egging them on and encouraging them .

   Then they can go on about Trump trying to have a revolution and coup and being a fascist dictator blah blah blah 

    All they need is there to be a protest turned violent .

Even if there is no voilent protest , the media will probably report it as being a violent protest , because that's what the peaceful supporters would have been thinking 

11 minutes ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

stocking up on beer now as we may very well run out on the big day...

You must have been saving up beer for the last seven years waiting for him to be jailed .

   Even when he was running for POTUS there were suggestions that he would be jailed , as there were all through his Presidency and then it was as soon as he left office he would be jailed . 

   This has been going on for at least seven years now and he hasnt yet been found guilty and jailed of any offence 

Edited March 19, 20233 yr by Mac Mickmanus

3 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

You must have been saving up beer for the last seven years waiting for him to be jailed .

   Even when he was running for POTUS there were suggestions that he would be jailed , as there were all through his Presidency and then it was as soon as he left office he would be jailed . 

   This has been going on for at least seven years now and he hasnt yet been found guilty and jailed of any offence 

Got some news for you. According to Justice Dept. Policy, a sitting President can't be prosecuted for a crime while in office. So those first 4 years don't count. Second, since then, Trump's teams of lawyers have done their best to delay proceedings against him. This has, on occasion, earned them severe reproaches from judges. Most of their attempts ultimately fail, but it does eat up a lot of time.

And while he hasn't yet been found guilty, the business he headed, the Trump Organization, was indicted on 17 criminal counts and was found guilty only of 17 of them.

4 hours ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

Using the dog whistle: "Show them your strength", "Take back our country". He doesn't need to be explicit; they understand.

Don't forget it's going to be wild.

Trump acts like a Mafia Don as Cohen has revealed.

When a mafia Don wants a hit he doesn't say do a hit.

He says take care of the problem.

That gets the message accross. 

5 hours ago, SatEng said:

He did not specifically ask his supporters to use violence as that would open him to a charge of incitement, but he did use language very similar to Jan 6

"Protest - take our country back"

The indictment he is facing relates to the payment to Stormy Daniels and campaign finance - which may seem minor but could be a criminal offence, a little like Al Capone being taken down for tax evasion.

This is one of multiple possible indictments and may be the most minor one even with felony charges. 

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

There is the hope that his incitement of civil war can be seen by judges in cases as fair grounds to imprison and muzzle him, as would happen with any other TERRORIST. 

Has Trump done another own goal?

 

People saying Mr. Donald didn't incite violence January 6th and isn't inciting violence now are simply gaslighting. Don't fall for that noise!

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

People saying Mr. Donald didn't incite violence January 6th and isn't inciting violence now are simply gaslighting. Don't fall for that noise!

Really ?

He was acquitted of all charges 

 

 

Donald Trump has been acquitted of a single impeachment charge that he incited a mob to storm the US Capitol. So what did the president say prior to the violence?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55640437

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Really ?

He was acquitted of all charges 

 

 

Donald Trump has been acquitted of a single impeachment charge that he incited a mob to storm the US Capitol. So what did the president say prior to the violence?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55640437

Neither impeachment nor trial in the Senate are criminal processes. And one crucial way they differ is that the juries are not vetted and selected from a larger pool  to warrant their impartiality.