stoner Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 3 hours ago, sharksy said: I suspect that these nationalities are probably lower in height than Thai. My Thai lady is 48KG and comes up to my shoulders. In Vietnam, many locals there came up to her shoulders you're right but its not significant. average of the other countries is around 1.55 with viet nam 1.58 and thailand 1.59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 1 minute ago, stoner said: you're right but its not significant. average of the other countries is around 1.55 with viet nam 1.58 and thailand 1.59 Isaan average be under 150. Lots of Thais in Chiang Mai over 165. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoner Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Just now, bignok said: Isaan average be under 150. Lots of Thais in Chiang Mai over 165. yes you are correct. those numbers also help to achieve the average height i posted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maechanman Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 15 hours ago, it is what it is said: yea, like the average european/american is a healthy lifestyle role model. glass houses. I'm not saying that the American/European lifestlye is a healthy role model, far from it, I thought the topic was about Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 12 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: Myth, i eat loads of sugar when exercising, 150g in my water bottle today, I'm not sugar phobic and fit and slim. Main issue is fatty junk food, pastries, chocolate, ice cream, crisps etc etc You may well have high sugar tolerance yourself, but to dismiss high sugar intake as a myth is very irresponsible; the effects apart from the obvious one of weight gain, include higher blood pressure, inflammation, diabetes and an increased risk of heart attack and stroke. Ironically, you dismiss added sugar intake as a myth, and then list as the main issue, fatty junk food, pastries, chocolate and ice cream, all of which contain very high levels of added sugar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villerupt Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Posted Monday at 06:06 PM Does it really matter if people are fat or skinny? People live longer. but without medical progress, fat people should live shorter ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleftheros Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 On 5/15/2023 at 4:56 PM, torturedsole said: ... and complete lack of exercise. ... and complete lack of education about physical health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: You may well have high sugar tolerance yourself, but to dismiss high sugar intake as a myth is very irresponsible; the effects apart from the obvious one of weight gain, include higher blood pressure, inflammation, diabetes and an increased risk of heart attack and stroke. Ironically, you dismiss added sugar intake as a myth, and then list as the main issue, fatty junk food, pastries, chocolate and ice cream, all of which contain very high levels of added sugar ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ all contain high levels of fat which people like you ignore and instead blame the sugar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Girl...... 157cm and 90 Kg.......Delicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: all contain high levels of fat which people like you ignore and instead blame the sugar Classic deflective whataboutery; and please point out where I have ever said that I ignore the fat content of food; conversely, you said that added sugar being a health risk was a myth. Not only is that completely inaccurate, it is also irresponsible to peddle such nonsense. Hopefully most posters on this forum will have the good sense to ignore your fatuous claim. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Classic deflective whataboutery; and please point out where I have ever said that I ignore the fat content of food; conversely, you said that added sugar being a health risk was a myth. Not only is that completely inaccurate, it is also irresponsible to peddle such nonsense. Hopefully most posters on this forum will have the good sense to ignore your fatuous claim. Sugar and carbs in reasonable amounts is just fine if healthy, same salt, overweight, obese etc different story. What's your weight \ BMI? too many overweight people on here telling people what to eat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cncltd1973 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 On 5/15/2023 at 4:54 PM, scubascuba3 said: I blame the western diet and 7 Eleven I ate home cooked thai food for a few months and put on some quick flab on the waist. i quit that diet and just ate red rice topped with 7-11 curried meat and lost it all even quicker. it's the white rice, cheap cooking oil, msg and sugar that's giving the lovelies their chubby shape... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, cncltd1973 said: it's the white rice, cheap cooking oil, msg and sugar that's giving the lovelies their chubby shape... doubt it they've been eating that for generations and were slim Edited May 17, 2023 by scubascuba3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 I just luv the comments by the farang armchair critics on here who stay home in their apartments all day being critical of Thai ladies eating & exercise habits. I am 5 kg heavier than I was at 18, now 72 & 60KG. In saying that if they are over 50 KG, forget it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 11 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Classic deflective whataboutery; and please point out where I have ever said that I ignore the fat content of food; conversely, you said that added sugar being a health risk was a myth. Not only is that completely inaccurate, it is also irresponsible to peddle such nonsense. Hopefully most posters on this forum will have the good sense to ignore your fatuous claim. Yes sugar can cause a bunch of health problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 A large body of research showed that sugar is even worse for your heart than saturated (bad) fat. https://www.lancastergeneralhealth.org/health-hub-home/2022/january/is-sugar-or-fat-worse-for-your-heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, bignok said: Sugar can cause diabetes. Its bad for you in excess. BMI has been discredited. You keep peddling the same nonsense. A 95kg man can be twice as fit as a 75kg man. Elite sportsmen can be 105kgs. A 50kg marathon runner is skinny yet isnt more healthy than a 90kg swimmer. This BMI stuff is nonsense. Agree all footballers weigh 95-100 KG and they are not fat they train every day and are as fit as a fiddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasg Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 My Thai Missus turned 45 a couple of days ago. She is a shade over 5 feet and her weight is around 8 stone plus or minus a single kilo. Her eight never varies more than a kilo. We don't eat bread, red meat, or fast food or fizzy drinks. I still enjoy an occasional steak if we eat out. She goes veggy for a few weeks every few months. She is always doing stretching exercises, we also walk a lot and it works for her. Not so much for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, rasg said: My Thai Missus turned 45 a couple of days ago. She is a shade over 5 feet and her weight is around 8 stone plus or minus a single kilo. Her eight never varies more than a kilo. We don't eat bread, red meat, or fast food or fizzy drinks. I still enjoy an occasional steak if we eat out. She goes veggy for a few weeks every few months. She is always doing stretching exercises, we also walk a lot and it works for her. Not so much for me! Red meat isnt fattening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, bignok said: Red meat isnt fattening. Red meat is high in saturated, unhealthy fats and energy, and so has often been focussed on as a target food for causing weight gain. Although red meat also provides valuable nutrients and is a good source of protein, it is often consumed in large quantities and can thus be a key factor in weight gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, still kicking said: Red meat is high in saturated, unhealthy fats and energy, and so has often been focussed on as a target food for causing weight gain. Although red meat also provides valuable nutrients and is a good source of protein, it is often consumed in large quantities and can thus be a key factor in weight gain. Nonsense. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5598025/ People lost more weight eating 4+ a week versus restricted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 The biggest and most unexpected change was losing so much body fat in the 30 days. I lost 19.6 pounds by the end of the month and ate 60 pounds of bacon during that same time! https://ketogasm.com/the-bacon-experiment-interview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, bignok said: Nonsense. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5598025/ People lost more weight eating 4+ a week versus restricted. Red Meat Pros and Cons - Medical Associates of Northwest Arkansas (mana.md) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 6 hours ago, still kicking said: Red Meat Pros and Cons - Medical Associates of Northwest Arkansas (mana.md) Saturated fat does not clog the arteries: coronary heart disease is a chronic inflammatory condition, the risk of which can be effectively reduced from healthy lifestyle interventions https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/15/1111 Coronary artery disease pathogenesis and treatment urgently requires a paradigm shift. Despite popular belief among doctors and the public, the conceptual model of dietary saturated fat clogging a pipe is just plain wrong. A landmark systematic review and meta-analysis of observational studies showed no association between saturated fat consumption and (1) all-cause mortality, (2) coronary heart disease (CHD), (3) CHD mortality, (4) ischaemic stroke or (5) type 2 diabetes in healthy adults.1 Similarly in the secondary prevention of CHD there is no benefit from reduced fat, including saturated fat, on myocardial infarction, cardiovascular or all-cause mortality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, bignok said: Saturated fat does not clog the arteries: coronary heart disease is a chronic inflammatory condition, the risk of which can be effectively reduced from healthy lifestyle interventions https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/15/1111 I don't won't to argue, I eat red meat as well in small portion (well everything in small portion) I don't eat a lot of vegs because everything you buy at the supermarket comes wrapped up in plastic, being single, it is not the way to go for me I am not a big eater. People say don't drink alcohol it will kill you, I used to drink all my life but now just drink a few glasses of red per day and I am still alive at 76. So, it all comes down to moderation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, still kicking said: I don't won't to argue, I eat red meat as well in small portion (well everything in small portion) I don't eat a lot of vegs because everything you buy at the supermarket comes wrapped up in plastic, being single, it is not the way to go for me I am not a big eater. People say don't drink alcohol it will kill you, I used to drink all my life but now just drink a few glasses of red per day and I am still alive at 76. So, it all comes down to moderation. I agree moderation. Variety makes food fun too. Even if beef 6x a week was good for you I wouldnt do it. I try to eat beef 3 or 4 times a week and enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, bignok said: I agree moderation. Variety makes food fun too. Even if beef 6x a week was good for you I wouldnt do it. I try to eat beef 3 or 4 times a week and enjoy it. As I said I don't buy a lot of fresh food anymore since being divorced and single now I buy a lot of canned food which is as good as fresh food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 hours ago, still kicking said: Agree all footballers weigh 95-100 KG and they are not fat they train every day and are as fit as a fiddle Not really, there are exceptions, the thing is fat people try to discredit it to make them feel better about being fat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 The problem with fat people is they all have bad mirrors.... Here is your typical farang...... And your very overweight Thai Lady.... But the funny thing is skinny women all think they are too fat... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/rugby-union/six-nations-2020-how-have-players-grown-in-size-in-the-past-25-years-and-who-is-the-heaviest-player-in-the-tournament-3020300 The modern players are 25% heavier. Fitter, stronger, better. Edited May 18, 2023 by bignok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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