New railway line thru Chiang Rai

[bignok]

Any word on expected completion date? Great idea btw

 

https://hiscs.gr/new-doubling-track-denchai-chiang-rai-chiang-klong-in-thailand/

[marin]

They are saying 2028 but with double tracks and many tunnels it wont be. 2032 has a nice ring to it. Cant link the article I found but its the Post from two and a half years ago. Very little progress since then, which is a pity as it is a great idea.

[my friend I]

AFAIK the priority is completing the southern and north east lines so could be some time

Years.

[sabaiguy]

Just east of Thoeng there is a big bridge construction over the 1021 hwy going towards Chiang Kham.  Locals told me it was for the new railway.  Surprised because I didn't realize that there that much work already being done.  Makes sense as crossings (elevated and at-grade) are more costly and time consuming than just laying rails.

[FarangRimPing]

A few months back we were in Dong Mahawan and saw that Google maps showed a new railway station, so we drove to see it. There was nothing there and we asked a local vendor about it. He then pointed out many buildings that were being torn down or had already been torn down. He said that the government pays people to tear down their houses in the path of the railway, and then gives them another, larger amount, when the tearing down is complete.

 

So it is happening and I expect that the process will be accelerating.

[sabaiguy]

On 7/24/2023 at 8:22 AM, FarangRimPing said:

A few months back we were in Dong Mahawan and saw that Google maps showed a new railway station, so we drove to see it. There was nothing there and we asked a local vendor about it. He then pointed out many buildings that were being torn down or had already been torn down. He said that the government pays people to tear down their houses in the path of the railway, and then gives them another, larger amount, when the tearing down is complete.

 

So it is happening and I expect that the process will be accelerating.

Called eminent domain in US.  Common by Gov't for transportation and other projects. Pay market value to the private owner.

[FarangRimPing]

10 hours ago, sabaiguy said:

Called eminent domain in US.  Common by Gov't for transportation and other projects. Pay market value to the private owner.

Of course.

 

In Thailand, quite often certain folks get paid more than market value of the property. Other folks get paid less than market.

 

Wht I found interesting was that the owners were responsible for clearing the lot themselves. They didn't get the final payment until the land was cleared. I assume that if they didn;t clear it, the government would do it and then the total payment would be lower. Perhaps they would only get the small initial payment.

[sabaiguy]

4 hours ago, FarangRimPing said:

Of course.

 

In Thailand, quite often certain folks get paid more than market value of the property. Other folks get paid less than market.

 

Wht I found interesting was that the owners were responsible for clearing the lot themselves. They didn't get the final payment until the land was cleared. I assume that if they didn;t clear it, the government would do it and then the total payment would be lower. Perhaps they would only get the small initial payment.

A few years ago when the the new western bypass hwy (131) was under construction near our house a portion of the road was fully graded and appeared ready for paving but all work was stopped right in front of a house.  Very interesting sight.  Was thinking the homeowner probably wasn't happy with the gov'ts offer and was holding out.  Next trip house was gone and hwy completed. Don't know who won that standoff. Probably Gov't as usual.  But maybe homeowner got more than Gov't originally offered.

[Manassas]

Cutting a pretty substantial tunnel through the mountain out by me.

[Manassas]

We have a little restaurant on the 1098 by that mountain where they are building the tunnel. Business has been way down since covid. But now we're getting the railroad construction workers for lunch, dinner and after-dinner beer drinking. ????  Helps the restaurant quite a bit.

Edited August 8, 2023 by Manassas

[McGregor21]

Any map showing where all the stations will be located?..I have looked online for info but other than the press releases telling you costs:) how long the tunnels are etc can't see much detailed info.

[motdaeng]

i'm not sure this link is accurate and / or up to date ...

 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1REMriQY0BxNPmksruPXyT867ewA&ll=19.901368506109566%2C99.90353913121696&z=13

[Rotweiler]

May be accurate.  May be up to date.  But it is NOT accessible (which kind of defeats the purpose).

[motdaeng]

22 minutes ago, Rotweiler said:

May be accurate.  May be up to date.  But it is NOT accessible (which kind of defeats the purpose).

 

the link is working for me ... android / imac / iphone ...

[Rotweiler]

It ONLY works if you disable tracker-blocking on your computer/mobile.  Gives you a really good display of what Google is doing to your computer (and to you!).

[motdaeng]

2 hours ago, Rotweiler said:

It ONLY works if you disable tracker-blocking on your computer/mobile.  Gives you a really good display of what Google is doing to your computer (and to you!).

 

never mind, i have nothing to hide and there is nothing to get from me.

 

i understand your point, but i gave up a few years ago on trying to be "invisible".

if you use the internet or cellphone, sooner or later they will have your data.

 

Edited July 27 by motdaeng

[KhunLA]

12 hours ago, motdaeng said:

 

never mind, i have nothing to hide and there is nothing to get from me.

 

i understand your point, but i gave up a few years ago on trying to be "invisible".

if you use the internet or cellphone, sooner or later they will have your data.

 

Agree.  I'm as incognito as possible ... BUT ... If you've ever given your data to any agency (govt/private) vendor, bank, hospital, phone company (why everyone asks for ph#) ... any one of those, you can rest assured, anyone & everyone has that info also, already.

 

Don't believe any site or whatever, that tells you differently.