Monkeypox outbreak: Thailand witnesses spike in cases within the LGBTQ+ community

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Plern said:

This goes to the old maxim.. call the truth and insult to avoid confronting it as fact

 

Name-calling.

No your rhetoric has been explicitly homophobic. Not the sort of language used by responsible health authorities. 

 

Also you took my quote out of context. 

Edited July 3, 2023 by Jingthing

[Plern]

38 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I get it, you want to spread hatred.

Fact is the queer ideology has set up thousands of *health centers" which are in effect STD clinics. Now, please don't bore me with your bull<deleted>++ because I've been to these centers for HIV testing on both east and west coast.

 

Few these days hates homosexuals. They are our family and our friends. It doesn't though mean that we have to celebrate their way of life. Nor am I asking anyone to celebrate mine.

 

When you can't defend what is indefensible you throw out words like hatred and prejudice. It's so trite and transparent.

Edited July 3, 2023 by Plern

[RanongCat]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Your link doesn't say what you say it does.

I go and look more. And more I look say same . Majority gay/bi men .

[Jingthing]

Just now, RanongCat said:

I go and look more. And more I look say same . Majority gay/bi men .

If you're going to assert a link asserts something, it's ON YOU to actual post a clear credible link that backs that up. 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Plern said:

Too bad they don't have a sleep emoji or a whining emoji.

When in doubt, go personal. 

[Jingthing]

26 minutes ago, Plern said:

Fact is the queer ideology has set up thousands of *health centers" which are in effect STD clinics. Now, please don't bore me with your bull<deleted>++ because I've been to these centers for HIV testing on both east and west coast.

 

Few these days hates homosexuals. They are our family and our friends. It doesn't though mean that we have to celebrate their way of life. Nor am I asking anyone to celebrate mine.

 

When you can't defend what is indefensible you throw out words like hatred and prejudice. It's so trite and transparent.

Queer ideology huh? Code again. 

If you're going to post homophobic garbage, man up and deal with being called out. 

 

Anti-LGBT rhetoric - Wikipedia

Edited July 3, 2023 by Jingthing

[Plern]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

When in doubt, go personal. 

You're joking right? You've made all sorts of direct insinuations hate being perhaps the most outlandish.

 

You're series of posts looks hardly objective.

 

Monkeypox

[Jingthing]

Bigotry loves a vacuum.

This is about a disease. 

Where are the VACCINES?

It shouldn't be about fueling homophobia.

 

Monkeypox shows that if we can’t talk openly about sex and disease, bigots will | Zoe Williams | The Guardian

 

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[Jingthing]

Responsible messages from public health authorities correctly pointing out that men who have sex men are the primary risk group are very welcome and indeed necessary. It's not LGBTQ community. It's men who have sex with men that are the high risk group now.

 

Public health messages explaining that this virus can be spread via skin contact with or without sex are also welcome.

 

Information on access to VACCINES for high risk group members is very welcome but apparently missing, WHY?!?

 

Bleeding into homophobic rhetoric, right wing inspired ranting about queer IDEOLOGY, blaming and shaming men who have sex with men for the disease are extremely unhelpful. 

 

I've said what I want to say. 

I will leave the topic now. 

 

Edited July 3, 2023 by Jingthing

[RanongCat]

49 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

If you're going to assert a link asserts something, it's ON YOU to actual post a clear credible link that backs that up. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_and_men_who_have_sex_with_men

[Baht Simpson]

So there were 21 cases last month and 48 more this month.  It's hardly sweeping the country like wildfire.  And remember these are new diagnoses. Many of these people might have had the virus already but have come forward to be diagnosed. 

 

It's a virus and contagious so it's bound to spike for a while.

 

Also I see some people calling it a 'homosexual' disease because it is currently most prevalent amongst gay men. Using that logic most contagious diseases including STD's are 'heterosexual' diseases as they start in the heterosexual community and spread to the homosexual community. Both are nonsense as disease knows no gender or sexuality.

[RanongCat]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Responsible messages from public health authorities correctly pointing out that men who have sex men are the primary risk group are very welcome and indeed necessary. It's not LGBTQ community. It's men who have sex with men that are the high risk group now.

 

Public health messages explaining that this virus can be spread via skin contact with or without sex are also welcome.

 

Information on access to VACCINES for high risk group members is very welcome but apparently missing, WHY?!?

 

Bleeding into homophobic rhetoric, right wing inspired ranting about queer IDEOLOGY, blaming and shaming men who have sex with men for the disease are extremely unhelpful. 

 

I've said what I want to say. 

I will leave the topic now. 

 

Very sad to understand you need run away fromstatistical fact . I s not ok people you not know can show real situation about disease just because it offend lgbt people so bad? Why  decide  comment you not like or agree with is blame and shame? You  say what tyou want say and  run away ? Make you correct? Not for me sorry.

[Baht Simpson]

1 hour ago, RanongCat said:

I go and look more. And more I look say same . Majority gay/bi men .

From the article in your link.  

 However, the same study found that 57% of men who have sex with men identified as heterosexual or bisexual. 

 

[RanongCat]

2 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

From the article in your link.  

 However, the same study found that 57% of men who have sex with men identified as heterosexual or bisexual. 

 

And ? I  am checking my mathematics and so 43 % are hetero or  not bi/ gay. So more are which  ?

 

[Plern]

20 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

From the article in your link.  

 However, the same study found that 57% of men who have sex with men identified as heterosexual or bisexual. 

 

The act is homosexual in nature. Here we go with the names and labels thing again.

 

Please, the distinction between bisexual and homosexual as it relates to two men please?? ????

 

 

Yes, 5% (drunken, methead..) men getting opportunity bj

 

And

 

95% bisexual, men that sex men

[Baht Simpson]

17 minutes ago, RanongCat said:

And ? I  am checking my mathematics and so 43 % are hetero or  not bi/ gay. So more are which  ?

 

The article actually says 43% are gay or not hetero/bi.  Just stating a fact. 

[RanongCat]

5 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

The article actually says 43% are gay or not hetero/bi.  Just stating a fact. 

????Ok . Not

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, RanongCat said:

Is not true . Internet search statistics show majority ofHIV is  gay men with men.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-lm&q=Global+percentage+of+sexual+orientation+of+HIV++patients

The first set of statistics brought up on that link show that men that have sex with men make up only a relatively small minority (17%) of HIV infections.

 

 

Edited July 3, 2023 by GroveHillWanderer

[BangkokReady]

45 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

From the article in your link.  

 However, the same study found that 57% of men who have sex with men identified as heterosexual or bisexual. 

Wouldn't that suggest that there is something wrong with the option to self-identify? 

 

If one person says that it's a homosexual thing (or whatever) and then they share evidence, but that can be contradicted with "but some of the men who have sex with other men say they aren't homosexual", it makes it kind of a pointless diversion, since we would still consider them to generally be in the ball park of gay men.

 

I mean, if it's a "man on man" thing, then it's a "man on man" thing.  The waters are simply being muddied with semantics and self-perception.

[Baht Simpson]

16 minutes ago, Plern said:

The act is homosexual in nature. Here we go with the names and labels thing again.

 

Please, the distinction between bisexual and homosexual as it relates to two men please?? ????

 

 

Yes, 5% (drunken, methead..) men getting opportunity bj

 

And

 

95% bisexual, men that sex men

What act? Bisexuality is being attracted to both men and women and doesn't necessarily require a sexual act if that's what you're alluding too.  Indeed a bi man could make love to fifty women a week and a man once in a blue moon. Those "acts" if conducted are primarily heterosexual. 

 

The distinction is homosexuals are almost exclusively attracted to the same sex,

 

I'm not sure what "5% (drunken, methead..)" means exactly.  ????

 

 

 

 

[BangkokReady]

12 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

The first set of statistics brought up on that link show that men that have sex with men make up only a small minority (17%) of HIV infections.

Which one is that?

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[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If you're going to assert a link asserts something, it's ON YOU to actual post a clear credible link that backs that up. 

I actually agree with you here.  It's best to post a specific link, copy and paste the relevant passage(s), and add an explanation of why it supports your position.

[Baht Simpson]

22 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

The first set of statistics brought up on that link show that men that have sex with men make up only a relatively small minority (17%) of HIV infections.

 

 

"Remaining population" is a bit coy.  ????     I think we should rename it straight people then we can talk about the "hetero plague"  Lol

[tandor]

7 hours ago, tandor said:

please advise Mitch Connor that the only acceptable name describing this virus is M-pox.

(It was Renamed by the WHO many months ago, as it was deemed insulting to any monkey).

FYI.

instead of mocking...why dont you both check it out?

[ICU Kid]

 

It's an 'emergency' apparently (or at least it was a year ago)

 

From the British Medical Journal: https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o1874

26 Jul 2022

The World Health Organization has declared the global monkeypox outbreak a public health emergency of international concern (PHEIC) 

 

 

[tandor]

6 hours ago, proton said:

So blokes having unprotected sex with other blokes then.

..anyone can catch it..temporary blindness (infected hand touching, face/mouth lesions; transmitted by family members

[Baht Simpson]

32 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Wouldn't that suggest that there is something wrong with the option to self-identify? 

 

If one person says that it's a homosexual thing (or whatever) and then they share evidence, but that can be contradicted with "but some of the men who have sex with other men say they aren't homosexual", it makes it kind of a pointless diversion, since we would still consider them to generally be in the ball park of gay men.

 

I mean, if it's a "man on man" thing, then it's a "man on man" thing.  The waters are simply being muddied with semantics and self-perception.

I think the terms heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual are pretty clear. If someone identifies as any one of these then I think we understand them. There might be a problem with bisexual as it refers to both sides of attraction so I guess it might be on a scale, but I can't really speak for bisexual men or women.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, ICU Kid said:

 

It's an 'emergency' apparently (or at least it was a year ago)

 

From the British Medical Journal: https://www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o1874

26 Jul 2022

The World Health Organization has declared the global monkeypox outbreak a public health emergency of international concern (PHEIC) 

 

 

A year is a long time and its no longer a PHEIC. This from 11 May 2023

 

In conclusion, having considered the significant decline in the global spread of mpox and the gains achieved in the control of the outbreak in many countries, the Committee advised that the event requires a transition from a PHEIC to a robust, proactive and sustainable mpox response and control program

 

https://www.who.int/news/item/11-05-2023-fifth-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-(ihr)-emergency-committee-on-the-multi-country-outbreak-of-monkeypox-(mpox)