https://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-and-toyota-collaborate-to-build-sustainable-smart-city-435050

 

 

 

First question.....Who the heck is going to be paying for a fleet of new baht buses..It sure will not be the divers.....I bet these cost at least 2-3 million a pop with the customizing..

 

Look at the size of the guys standind.....Then put them in the seats.....2 of these guys would just about take up one side.......(or 3 smaler people)

Notice this is not a full bed pick-up like the current baht buses use, this is a short bed pick-up that would hold a lot less people....

 

Notice how the current baht buses are painted blue and the seats are blue.....
Why?

Because blue hides the dirt and they never look all that dirty....

 

Notice the new baht buses.....The color is white on white on white.....I  guarantee these baht buses will look filthy in no time...

 

Even if the drivers were given the baht buses 100% free, I think the drivers would be making a lot less money due to the new baht buses small size...

 

So in turn the price to ride the baht bus would have to go up up.....

 

 

I'd rather see electric motorcycles, starting with the noisiest ones.

Converting to LPG would be a lot wiser and cheaper IMO

The Electric company in Thailand really does'nt need an extra load like Electric vehicles, they  cant  maintain a domestic  Electric supply without   many  power cuts especially  during the up coming rain season...

The current ones are filthy dangerous gas guzzlers.

And, I think they should be banned in certain areas especially Soi Buakhao where they constantly stop and jam up traffic on a one lane road.  

Yeh that'd work driving around all night lights on, in rain using wipers, even using indicators some times, and of course the horn tooting, a/c /fan in the cabin.

What could possibly go wrong 

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How many Baht bushes are in Pattaya? I honestly don't know , but I am willing to bet that they will not even put a dent in the pollution problem , Probably counteract two or three people burning trash. 

I am a big proponent of the electrification of our transportation system, but this IMO is political grandstanding and lip service. 

If they want to reduce emissions they should implement a program subsidising  EV purchases. 

When the battery explodes  like a 500kg bomb and the subsequent fire is not extinguishable   I reckon there will be  some nice redevelopment plots in pattaya and of course the loss of a few tourists and peasant drivers  wont hurt business

Worse polluters are pickups, lorries and coaches, baht buses not so bad

43 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Worse polluters are pickups, lorries and coaches, baht buses not so bad

Unless diesel, which many pickups are.

 

I Patts was forward thinking, they'd simply set up a revolving looping monorail/tram route along beach road (all of) and half of 2nd Road, and limit those sections to the tram, bicycle, ebikes/scooter & walking. NO ICE vehicles.

 

Couple large parking garages outside the main, w/ shuttle service to the tram.

 

Obviously city planning is not their forte'.

50 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Worse polluters are pickups, lorries and coaches, baht buses not so bad

Baht buses are pickups.

 

This is deleted ridiculous.  How 'bout set up a public transportation system like other third world countries?  Why depend on untrained, unlicensed, anybody's second cousin with an old beater pickup to haul the public.

 

Really.  It's not that hard to set up a public bus system.  Forget the monorails and futuristic semi-bulletproof EV Tesla moontrucks and just have the city buy some small 17-seater short-buses that will easily fit on the roads, and hire and train municipal employee bus drivers.

 

Heck, if Myanmar can do it......

 

No, that's not complicated enough.  We're wanna be the hub of hubs of Asian space exploration instead.

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Unless diesel, which many pickups are.

 

Does that include the ones where black smoke pours out?

9 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

Baht buses are pickups.

 

Different, black smoke often comes out of pickups when accelerating away, never seen it from a baht bus

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

Does that include the ones where black smoke pours out?

They're usually the ones spewing the black smoke, diesel fueled ICEs.

Gas or electric, it is still a truck and who in their right mind wants to sit in the back of a truck with the pollution, heat and humidity?

2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Different, black smoke often comes out of pickups when accelerating away, never seen it from a baht bus

If not mistaken, black smoke should never come out or any vehicle, if properly maintained.  

 

Old or misadjusted injectors.   Some just need cleaning and have an easy fix, with an additive to prevent, but, that would cut into profits.  What does the driver care for, the smoke is behind him.

 

Diesel should have been banned decades ago, as a direct link to negative health issues.

4 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Gas or electric, it is still a truck and who in their right mind wants to sit in the back of a truck with the pollution, heat and humidity?

For a mere 20 (?) baht, beats walking in the pollution, heat & humidity, if that's your only convenant transport.

13 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Different, black smoke often comes out of pickups when accelerating away, never seen it from a baht bus

How are they different?

Are you suggesting that Baht buses have different engines.

They are standard single cab pickups with a cage and seats on the back.

2 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Converting to LPG would be a lot wiser and cheaper IMO

Oh yes, waiting for the news of that mishap with tourists being burned alive!

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

Oh yes, waiting for the news of that mishap with tourists being burned alive!

Taxis in Hong Kong have used LPG for years without problems.

 

2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

2 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Converting to LPG would be a lot wiser and cheaper IMO

Oh yes, waiting for the news of that mishap with tourists being burned alive!

LPG-fuelled public transport has been in use for years in Bangkok and I don't recall a single instance of those vehicles burning passengers alive, why would you think that it would happen in Pattaya?

2 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

Taxis in Hong Kong have used LPG for years without problems.

 

and Bangkok

 

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

LPG-fuelled public transport has been in use for years in Bangkok and I don't recall a single instance of those vehicles burning passengers alive, why would you think that it would happen in Pattaya?

They have boots... baht buses do not. Where is the tank (s) located?

Minivans sure are safe...

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/01/22/fiery-death-of-11-in-lng-fuelled-mini-van-nakhon-ratchasima/

10 minutes ago, Bert got kinky said:

Taxis in Hong Kong have used LPG for years without problems.

 

Topic isn't about taxis......read the OP!

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Worse polluters are pickups, lorries and coaches, baht buses not so bad

Aren't baht busses just pickups?

19 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

26 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

LPG-fuelled public transport has been in use for years in Bangkok and I don't recall a single instance of those vehicles burning passengers alive, why would you think that it would happen in Pattaya?

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They have boots... baht buses do not. Where is the tank (s) located?

Minivans sure are safe...

There are many baht buses in Bangkok,  The LPG tanks are either under the vehicle or under the passenger seats.  I can't recall having seen any reports about Bangkok's minibuses burning people to death, either.

15 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Aren't baht busses just pickups?

Maybe the pickups that spew out black smoke have been souped up somehow but i don't see the same smoke out of a baht bus, have you?

3 hours ago, redwood1 said:

First question.....Who the heck is going to be paying for a fleet of new baht buses..It sure will not be the divers

Why would divers pay for baht buses?

10 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There are many baht buses in Bangkok,  The LPG tanks are either under the vehicle or under the passenger seats.  I can't recall having seen any reports about Bangkok's minibuses burning people to death, either.

This was a close call..

Would it not make sense to skip LPG and go electric..