27 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

Well known understanding......particular Farang circles always knows what's best for Thai folks. ????????

Blessed to have such Farang-centric assistance at their side.????

Thank you kindly.

 

I know that I am good but I certainly didn't praise from you.

6 hours ago, h90 said:

No Pita was not voted by the people as Thailand votes for parties.

MF was the strongest party with 38% of the votes which is 28% of the possible voters. 28% is not "the people" as 72% did not MF.

Strange that you have changed your language now.

 

For months you have been posting that Prayut was voted by the Thai people, and received the most votes, while he wasn't even on the ballot of the party.

 

Now you show again your real colours.

 

Army stooges please refrain from replying to my posts

The old guard simply cannot leave. If Pita and his cornuiten come to power, a cesspool could open with which these old people can be prosecuted. There is more than money and power at stake.
 

13 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

Parliament meets on 13 July.

 

Pita and MFP are blocked by the Senate.

 

Protests on evening of 13 July.

 

Parliament meets again on 19 and 20 July.

 

Pita and MFP continue to be blocked by Senate.

 

Protests continue and increase.

 

State of Emergency declared on morning of 21 July.

 

Protests continue.

 

Caretaker government remains in power under S of E indefinitely.

 

"It's a coup Jim, but not as you know it!"

It would be very difficult for the military-backed government to claim any form of mandate after that.

Another election? ..or a coup?

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

It would be very difficult for the military-backed government to claim any form of mandate after that.

Another election? ..or a coup?

It would be very difficult. But once they are safely ensconced then there will be time to spin it, and perhaps arrange a more desirable long term outcome.

 

Personally I suspect that, if the regime is not toppled by a popular uprising, it will attempt to rule by "State of Emergency" until such time that they can cobble together ( Gerrymander) the election/senate result they want, which will put them ( they imagine) in the driving seat for another 4 years or more. 

 

It won't end well, it will be very messy.

Edited July 7, 20233 yr by herfiehandbag

14 hours ago, h90 said:

I don't know what you talk about.

There were no delays...what delays? The EC was way faster than they could be. They have 60 days. They quickly confirmed everyone. Than immediately they met and selected the speaker.

No the people did not select a government. There was no government on the ballot. There were parties.

Non of the parties could win a majority of the MPs (more than half) so they negotiate a coaliton.

With the MPF having 151 and PTP having 141 votes and a majority is >250 there are several different coalition governments possible.

Fascists.....google the word....no Fascists here....you can vote them in Italy.

Pita was listed as the leader of the party therefore when people voted for that party they voted for him.  Just the same as pt votes for a thaksin government or the different military parties have their leaders.

 

This idea that a vote for pm is BS in A TRUE democracy once the election is held the new party takes over and there is no need for a vote. The military and certain rich people want to rig this so that they keep control.

 

Putting anutin in power would mean that in a year or 6 months there would be another election

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3 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

Pita was listed as the leader of the party therefore when people voted for that party they voted for him.  Just the same as pt votes for a thaksin government or the different military parties have their leaders.

 

This idea that a vote for pm is BS in A TRUE democracy once the election is held the new party takes over and there is no need for a vote. The military and certain rich people want to rig this so that they keep control.

 

Putting anutin in power would mean that in a year or 6 months there would be another election

That may be stage 1.

 

Buying time to dispose of the immediate threat to their status quo - the electoral success of MFP.

Six months or better still a year - enough time they hope to emasculate MFP, and stage 2; select and install a new Senate - probably with renewed powers over selecting Prime Ministers.

 

Stage 3, once they feel safe, fresh elections, engineered of course to produce the right results.

 

Their defeat is inevitable, but they will fight. The longer they fight the messier the end will be.

 

I wonder if MFP realise that it will be a long struggle? 

Edited July 8, 20233 yr by herfiehandbag

1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said:

That may be stage 1.

 

Buying time to dispose of the immediate threat to their status quo - the electoral success of MFP.

Six months or better still a year - enough time they hope to emasculate MFP, and stage 2; select and install a new Senate - probably with renewed powers over selecting Prime Ministers.

 

Stage 3, once they feel safe, fresh elections, engineered of course to produce the right results.

 

Their defeat is inevitable, but they will fight. The longer they fight the messier the end will be.

 

I wonder if MFP realise that it will be a long struggle? 

The challenge to that all is first of all will Thaksin go along wth it.  The fact that MFP has a huge number of members in parliament.

 

It will be very hard for the military to get anything through because Thaksin  is not gong to want to give up any power from his party and MFP is too strong along with the protestors and other groups.

 

I m not sure that MFP expected to win so many seats they seemed unprepared.  But being the loyal opposition will give them a chance to learn 

 

I think the original plan was to be shadow government to PT and then take the next election

 

Let's face it Pita did not seem ready

Edited July 8, 20233 yr by kingstonkid