TCT course for foreign teachers

[wwest5829]

15 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

You just may be the exception to the rule...

Perhaps, I have not studied the data. If we want the best educators we need to look for both the dedication and be willing to provide the economic incentives. Always amazed me was the argument that in order to attract and retain the best in corporate leadership we must provide a high compensation package. Apply that to educators (not the education corporate administrators) and we are told it is just not affordable. I have no issue with professional responsibility but … right now, little or no balance of citizen responsibility in support of educators (nor, it seems others in public services).

[MarcelV]

Please guys, create your own topic if you wanna discuss these matters.

I don't care about your retirement, as I'm still working and will be working for the next 14-20 years at least.

[mrwebb8825]

20 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Prepared by a commercial site with no affiliation to KSP.

 

No on knows what going on as KSP keep moving the goal posts. 

 

I constantly tried to get a licence from 2006 to 2019. Nothing but hassle. Just as one qualifies, the rules changed. In the end, I gave up.

My 3rd renewal still has a yr left - want to borrow it? (I've retired)

 

but then, I'm an actual qualified teacher

Edited August 29, 2023 by mrwebb8825

[youreavinalaff]

13 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

My 3rd renewal still has a yr left - want to borrow it? (I've retired)

 

but then, I'm an actual qualified teacher

I, too, was qualified. 

 

Until they changed the rules. Again and again. 

[mrwebb8825]

12 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

I, too, was qualified. 

 

Until they changed the rules. Again and again. 

Then you'll notice that my post is in the present simple form as yours is in the past simple form. (i.e. I'm still qualified)

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Then you'll notice that my post is in the present simple form as yours is in the past simple form. (i.e. I'm still qualified)

So am I still qualified. However, not in the eyes of KSP. 

 

KSP are the topic of this thread, hence my use of past tense.

 

I'm qualified to teach in UK. Not In Thailand. Amazing when you think about it.

 

 

 

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

20 hours ago, MarcelV said:

Please guys, create your own topic if you wanna discuss these matters.

I don't care about your retirement, as I'm still working and will be working for the next 14-20 years at least.

You are not required to read our replies... just ignore and all will be good... grow up.

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 8/26/2023 at 10:24 PM, MarcelV said:

Does anyone know when, how or what?

I have downloaded the ONE app on my phone, but besides the Thai webinars there ain't nothing there for aspiring, unlicensed teachers.

 

Apparently, I gotta pay some kind of fee or something before the end of August, but there ain't no info whatsoever by the TCT. No emails, nothing.

Does anybody know more, like what to sign up for and when it starts? Also, I can't find the payment link anymore.

There sure "AIN'T"

[Punika580]

I have a Canadian female friend who has been teaching here for over 10 years. She has obtained a B.Ed from the Philippines (which has permanently shut down) a while ago but has never gotten a license here. She is currently enrolled with The University of the People M.Ed. Will the TCT accept her qualifications? I'd appreciate your help. Thanks!

[Pouatchee]

On 8/27/2023 at 8:35 PM, SoilSpoil said:

I prefer an unlicensed teacher for my kids than someone as rude as the above, which is clearly an indication of a low EQ.

 

 

i would prefer a rag doll of poop over an overly emotional near neurotic bub like you. spoken from the heart

[NobleELT]

Don't know enough about the details of the teacher license as they stand now (mainly because I've been working at universities for a while), but I feel your pain, OP, regarding the confusion and moving goalposts. First and of course obvious advice is simply to remain calm as the FUBAR type process is a double-edge thing...yes it's chaotic and seems essentially 'unfair'...but also it's slow and plodding to the extent that it rarely claims any real victims. 

That's not to say one shouldn't pay any mind to the need for stated required qualifications, etc. But my point stands. 

All else I have to add on the topic is that I knew a fellow who completed a weekends/hybrid course at St. Theresa's College out at Klong 13 or so, just across the Nakon Nayok border and subsequently got his Thai teacher's license. I could put you in touch with him if requested earnestly. 

Anyway...any updates from the OP? Surely over time the OP can be expected to make some progress on this, and surely isn't waiting for a thread here to blossom into great actionable knowledge and insight. Not sure where exactly you are, but don't discount heading directly into whatever Krusapa office you can get to. And smile. Smile, goddammit! In my experience, a lot of foreigners seemingly never understand the incredible power of being super friendly in Thailand. Smile and thou shalt recieve...;D 

That goes for your school's HR people too. If you weren't doing it from the first day at the job...they're the ones you need to be waiing, joking with, getting friendly with, giving little gifts to, etc. They WILL help those rare foreigners who seem, in their eyes, like khon dee.

Good luck 

Edited February 9 by NobleELT

[MarcelV]

8 hours ago, NobleELT said:

All else I have to add on the topic is that I knew a fellow who completed a weekends/hybrid course at St. Theresa's College out at Klong 13 or so, just across the Nakon Nayok border and subsequently got his Thai teacher's license. I could put you in touch with him if requested earnestly. 

Anyway...any updates from the OP? 

 

I'm not gonna do that, or any other course not offered by the TCT anymore.

First, I live and work more than 1000 km away from Bangkok and I'm not willing to move there. And second, I already have a diploma in teaching from St. Robert's Institute in Bangkok, which was a course that was offered online back during the Covid years. The institute is, however, not accredited by TCT, so that diploma accounts for nothing.

 

This year marks my eighth year teaching and if I don't get a fifth waiver, it will be probably be game over as my school isn't gonna go through the hassle of shifting my formal position to a non-teaching role.

 

I am hoping for leniency by TCT. Not just for me, but for all people in my situation. If not, I fear I must leave my Thai wife, our cats and most of my worldy possessions behind to emigrate and find a teaching job in a country like Vietnam or Kazakhstan. 

[NobleELT]

11 hours ago, MarcelV said:

 

I'm not gonna do that, or any other course not offered by the TCT anymore.

First, I live and work more than 1000 km away from Bangkok and I'm not willing to move there. And second, I already have a diploma in teaching from St. Robert's Institute in Bangkok, which was a course that was offered online back during the Covid years. The institute is, however, not accredited by TCT, so that diploma accounts for nothing.

 

This year marks my eighth year teaching and if I don't get a fifth waiver, it will be probably be game over as my school isn't gonna go through the hassle of shifting my formal position to a non-teaching role.

 

I am hoping for leniency by TCT. Not just for me, but for all people in my situation. If not, I fear I must leave my Thai wife, our cats and most of my worldy possessions behind to emigrate and find a teaching job in a country like Vietnam or Kazakhstan. 

Oh man. Alright, so that's a pretty clear look at the situation. Sounds like yours is a great case for leniency/understanding from the TCT. It's sad that teaching requirements policy lands so awkwardly - it's as if there's no standards at all OR there's strict, limiting ones...and nothing or at least not enough in the reasonable middle. 

I'm wishing you the best. You've comported yourself well while the thread bubbles up with all the usual boring exhortations we've all heard 7000 times. 

Hopefully you update it as things continue on so it's actually a contribution to knowledge and awareness for others. 

[MarcelV]

My understanding is that Thailand only wants foreigners who have proper teaching qualifications in their home countries to come and teach here.

Well, to that I say: good luck! Prepare for Thai schools' English programs to disappear and for the students' English skills to take a nosedive.

The dinosaurs will have their xenophobic wishes fulfilled, and see the rich-poor gap widening, as only the rich parents will be able to afford education delivered by foreigners.

 

Btw, I have already been offered jobs elsewhere in other countries, but have turned them down until now. My time here is running out though, so I might be inclined to actually take one of these - much-better paying - jobs at some time.

These countries (a.o. Russia, Vietnam and several South-American ones) don't seem to be so stringent when it comes to education degrees and value experience more. And pay way better too. Just too bad my wife could not possibly leave her government job here, but, hey-ho, I have to think about my old age too.

[NobleELT]

23 hours ago, MarcelV said:

My understanding is that Thailand only wants foreigners who have proper teaching qualifications in their home countries to come and teach here.

Well, to that I say: good luck! Prepare for Thai schools' English programs to disappear and for the students' English skills to take a nosedive.

The dinosaurs will have their xenophobic wishes fulfilled, and see the rich-poor gap widening, as only the rich parents will be able to afford education delivered by foreigners.

 

Btw, I have already been offered jobs elsewhere in other countries, but have turned them down until now. My time here is running out though, so I might be inclined to actually take one of these - much-better paying - jobs at some time.

These countries (a.o. Russia, Vietnam and several South-American ones) don't seem to be so stringent when it comes to education degrees and value experience more. And pay way better too. Just too bad my wife could not possibly leave her government job here, but, hey-ho, I have to think about my old age too.

 

It sounds like you might be living in a small provincial town, but are there any langauge centers who'll employ you? Thai universities also provide a licensure-free career option, but requirements/preferences in hiring vary (many positions expect an MA at least, but there's plenty of variance and...well, need). If you interview well at a small provincial uni campus, you could get a job. 

It takes a bit of effort just to find uni job announcements online, but it's certainly not impossible. Just thinking out loud here. 

Edited February 11 by NobleELT

[MarcelV]

20 hours ago, NobleELT said:

 

It sounds like you might be living in a small provincial town, but are there any langauge centers who'll employ you? Thai universities also provide a licensure-free career option, but requirements/preferences in hiring vary (many positions expect an MA at least, but there's plenty of variance and...well, need). If you interview well at a small provincial uni campus, you could get a job. 

It takes a bit of effort just to find uni job announcements online, but it's certainly not impossible. Just thinking out loud here. 

I do not teach English, so my options are much more limited than those of a random ESL teacher.

[NobleELT]

On 2/12/2024 at 5:29 AM, MarcelV said:

I do not teach English, so my options are much more limited than those of a random ESL teacher.

Aha, I must have missed this info earlier in the thread or perhaps you didn't share that before. That does limit your options then doesn't it! 

So what do you now see as your probably 'deadline' for this? Getting any insights from those in your scene? Do you work with any licsensed foreign teachers where you are? Others in the same boat? 

[MarcelV]

13 hours ago, NobleELT said:

Aha, I must have missed this info earlier in the thread or perhaps you didn't share that before. That does limit your options then doesn't it! 

So what do you now see as your probably 'deadline' for this? Getting any insights from those in your scene? Do you work with any licsensed foreign teachers where you are? Others in the same boat? 

 

The deadline is this year, specifically October. If I don't get another waiver, it's the end of the line for me in this country. Another foreign teacher already had to leave because of it, and my second colleague kept the honor to himself, after the school had managed to hire him as 'specialist' or something for a few years.

Some new foreign teachers have joined us recently. They're still on their first waiver.

None of us are properly licensed (i.e. holding an actual Thai teacher license) to teach in Thailand.