20 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah it's usually a complete waste of time trying to debate logically with the cult members. There are people that voted for trump that are persuadable though. It's easy to tell the difference though and most people posting Maga on social media and this forum are cultists. Also do not always believe people who say they aren't maga cultists just because they say so. It's easy to see through that gambit. 

What logic do you have? You spew anti Trump bile. Promote Biden who is old and clueless. Falls over a lot. Can't remember speeches. Touches people in a creepy way. You call people fascists a lot not knowing that fascism has socialist roots. 

 

 

 

Edited August 30, 20233 yr by bignok

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

What logic do you have? You spew anti Trump bile. Promote Biden who is old and clueless. Falls over a lot. Can't remember speeches. Touches people in a creepy way. You call people fascists a lot not knowing that fascism has socialist roots. 

 

You may want to read up on why Trump and the cult falsely refer to the dems as fascists:

 

Why Trump and His Supporters Keep Calling Democrats 'Fascists'

On Monday, August 14, a Georgia grand jury indicted Donald Trump and 18 allies, the most famous of which was his former attorney and New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. In an interview the next day, Giuliani shared on WABC radio’s Greg Kelly Show that he was anxious to fight the case, claiming defiantly “We’re going to beat these fascists into the ground.”

Among Trump and his allies, the “fascist” label has been growing in popularity as an epithet for Democrats. Following his indictments, Trump has repeatedly referred to “radical left Democrats” as “fascists” And not just any old fascists. On August 1st, for example, Trump posted on Truth Social that the persecution he’d experienced from the “Biden Crime Family” was “reminiscent of Nazi Germany in the 1930s.”

https://time.com/6306945/donald-trump-democrats-fascists/

8 minutes ago, bignok said:

What logic do you have? You spew anti Trump bile. Promote Biden who is old and clueless. Falls over a lot. Can't remember speeches. Touches people in a creepy way. You call people fascists a lot not knowing that fascism has socialist roots.

Don't worry, blacks can identify with Trump now.

 

Former President Donald Trump's arrest and prosecution for the Georgia election racketeering case, complete with a publicly released mugshot, has led Fox News pundits to converge on a new talking point: this will actually help Trump with Black voters, because now he's been arrested, he'll look more credible and relatable to them.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/joy-reid-racism-fox-news/

26 minutes ago, bignok said:

Yes and he was a socialist. 

Until he changed his politics and denounced Socialism.

16 minutes ago, bignok said:

What logic do you have? You spew anti Trump bile. Promote Biden who is old and clueless. Falls over a lot. Can't remember speeches. Touches people in a creepy way. You call people fascists a lot not knowing that fascism has socialist roots. 

 

 

 

Fascism does not have Socialist roots, it's the opposite of Socialism.

Trump is in big legal trouble.

 

His support will slowly ebb. The question is he makes it to the nomination.

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Fascism does not have Socialist roots, it's the opposite of Socialism.

False. Buy a clue about history.

https://www.history.com/news/9-things-you-may-not-know-about-mussolini

 

Mussolini was a socialist before becoming a fascist.

Born to a socialist father, Mussolini was named after leftist Mexican President Benito Juárez. His two middle names, Amilcare and Andrea, came from Italian socialists Amilcare Cipriani and Andrea Costa. 

Edited August 30, 20233 yr by bignok

10 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Don't worry, blacks can identify with Trump now.

 

Former President Donald Trump's arrest and prosecution for the Georgia election racketeering case, complete with a publicly released mugshot, has led Fox News pundits to converge on a new talking point: this will actually help Trump with Black voters, because now he's been arrested, he'll look more credible and relatable to them.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/joy-reid-racism-fox-news/

No chance.

 

If you vote Trump, you ain't black. - Joe Biden, 2020.

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/joe-biden-black-breakfast-club.html

 

Apparently Joe knows better than black people what it means to be a black person. ????

 

 

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

No chance.

 

If you vote Trump, you ain't black. - Joe Biden, 2020.

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/us/politics/joe-biden-black-breakfast-club.html

 

Apparently Joe knows better than black people what it means to be a black person. ????

 

 

Yes a racist. Obama anti semi too. Pair of racists.

1 minute ago, bignok said:

https://www.history.com/news/9-things-you-may-not-know-about-mussolini

Socialists, Authoritarians, Totalitarians and Fascists have always been close bedfellows.

 

Of course, they love to throw those types of labels at others (except maybe socialist, they consider that a positive thing ????). As is so often the case with the left, they are what they accuse you of being.

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Socialists, Authoritarians, Totalitarians and Fascists have always been close bedfellows.

 

Of course, they love to throw those types of labels at others (except maybe socialist, they consider that a positive thing ????). As is so often the case with the left, they are what they accuse you of being.

Exactly. Lefties been stuffing up the world for 150 years. Capitalists have to come along and clean up the mess.

37 minutes ago, bignok said:

False. Buy a clue about history.

Socialism is based on the government controlling business.

 

Fascism is based on business controlling government.

30 minutes ago, bignok said:

Exactly. Lefties been stuffing up the world for 150 years. Capitalists have to come along and clean up the mess.

Please give some concrete examples.

 

I will give you a counter example: the Great Depression.

 

On 8/29/2023 at 6:44 AM, SunnyinBangrak said:

I think it's fair to call the modern day democrats as fascists. Why?

 

They tried creating a Ministry Of Truth with a notorious laptop denier conspiracy theorist and irrational Trump hater as the head.

 

They censor fact whenever it is not beneficial to the party narrative. Such as the corruption laptop, bribery allegations and evidence etc

 

 They have weaponized the DOJ to protect crimes by the good people(letting the statute run out on hunters tax avoidance from burisma bucks) which benefits the insider elites while attacking political opponents.

 

They have denied the legitimacy of elections they did not win, while having epic melt downs when their opponents behaved in a similar manner.

 

The fascist party supporters mock and abuse those with different ideas, having convinced themselves that all the intelligent people agree with them and their opponents are uninformed idiots.

 

If it walks like a duck...

 

 

????

40 minutes ago, bignok said:

https://www.history.com/news/9-things-you-may-not-know-about-mussolini

 

Mussolini was a socialist before becoming a fascist.

Born to a socialist father, Mussolini was named after leftist Mexican President Benito Juárez. His two middle names, Amilcare and Andrea, came from Italian socialists Amilcare Cipriani and Andrea Costa. 

I will repeat this:

 

Mussolini started as a Socialist, but denounced it, did a 180, and founded the Fascist party.

 

Yes, I know, it's difficult for you to understand Mussolini's political journey.

 

Did you know that Ronald Reagan was a Democrat? Are you going to claim that Democrats and Republicans are the same because Ronald Reagan once was a Democrat?

On 8/28/2023 at 9:55 PM, billd766 said:

Don't take any more of his crap. Simply give him 14 days in jail for contempt of court.

 

If he is not stopped now he will keep doing it. If he does double the jail time for EVERY time he does it.

 

Ignore the cries of witch hunt.

 

Treat him like any other normal citizen.

So sad. 

So you are opposed to free speech?

 

Of course it's a witch hunt. Of course he's not going to take all this ^&*%. 

 

Climate activists are fascists. They want state based control of your energy usage.

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

So sad. 

So you are opposed to free speech?

 

Of course it's a witch hunt. Of course he's not going to take all this ^&*%. 

 

All socialists oppose free speech except for left wing speech.

On 8/28/2023 at 11:44 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

 

If it walks like a duck...

 

 

Waddles is more like it. trump is, of course, obese, and he does waddle.

 

Despite his typical whine of being 'indicated' by law enforcement, he is the guy who:

 

---stole highly classified documents that jeopardize national security and clandestine assets, and then lied about it

 

---was intimately involved in a plot to overthrow US democracy

 

-fomented the terrorist attack on the Capitol on 6 Jan 2021, and spent 180 minutes on his fat a$$ watching it unfold and watching Capitol Police being beaten and injured (why did he call his goobers to DC and say "it will be wild !", if it is merely a pro forma certification done peacefully dozens of times in US history? YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE.)

 

-Despite being told 3 recounts and an investigation into voting in Georgia found zero evidence of fraud, he still tried to pressure SecState Raffensperger to "just find me 11.780 votes", which has no explanation whatsoever except "Cheat for me".

 

-Watched his long time bagman go to jail for following trump's orders to pay off Stormy Daniels

 

-Sicked the IRS on both Andrew McCabe and James Comey in the same year

 

-Tried (unsuccessfully) to remove the security clearance of John Brennan, because the former DCI was a critic...since his WH was incompetent, John never lost his clearance, even though trump said he had it pulled

 

-Tried to pressure his AG to open investigations into Hillary and Biden

 

-Withheld needed and already-approved military aid to Ukraine demanding that Zelenskyy first make up some fake material about Biden

 

Yea, fat donny is waddling all duck-like.

1 hour ago, bignok said:

What logic do you have? You spew anti Trump bile. Promote Biden who is old and clueless. Falls over a lot. Can't remember speeches. Touches people in a creepy way. You call people fascists a lot not knowing that fascism has socialist roots. 

 

 

 

Spot on! 

 

Just now, Walker88 said:

Waddles is more like it. trump is, of course, obese, and he does waddle.

 

Despite his typical whine of being 'indicated' by law enforcement, he is the guy who:

 

---stole highly classified documents that jeopardize national security and clandestine assets, and then lied about it

 

---was intimately involved in a plot to overthrow US democracy

 

-fomented the terrorist attack on the Capitol on 6 Jan 2021, and spent 180 minutes on his fat a$$ watching it unfold and watching Capitol Police being beaten and injured (why did he call his goobers to DC and say "it will be wild !", if it is merely a pro forma certification done peacefully dozens of times in US history? YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE.)

 

-Despite being told 3 recounts and an investigation into voting in Georgia found zero evidence of fraud, he still tried to pressure SecState Raffensperger to "just find me 11.780 votes", which has no explanation whatsoever except "Cheat for me".

 

-Watched his long time bagman go to jail for following trump's orders to pay off Stormy Daniels

 

-Sicked the IRS on both Andrew McCabe and James Comey in the same year

 

-Tried (unsuccessfully) to remove the security clearance of John Brennan, because the former DCI was a critic...since his WH was incompetent, John never lost his clearance, even though trump said he had it pulled

 

-Tried to pressure his AG to open investigations into Hillary and Biden

 

-Withheld needed and already-approved military aid to Ukraine demanding that Zelenskyy first make up some fake material about Biden

 

Yea, fat donny is waddling all duck-like.

Come on man, these are just made up allegations for obvious political reasons. 

 not very nice attacking him because of his weight ;(

22 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah it's usually a complete waste of time trying to debate logically with the cult members. There are people that voted for trump that are persuadable though. It's easy to tell the difference though and most people posting Maga on social media and this forum are cultists. Also do not always believe people who say they aren't maga cultists just because they say so. It's easy to see through that gambit. 

Ironically, it's the other side that are a cult, refusing to say anything positive about Trump. 

28 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

So sad. 

So you are opposed to free speech?

 

Of course it's a witch hunt. Of course he's not going to take all this ^&*%. 

 

Do you understand that a criminal defendant out on bail may have constraints on their speech (or behavior)?

 

This is serious question.

 

I am not just asking about Trump's case, but defendants in general.

27 minutes ago, bignok said:

All socialists oppose free speech except for left wing speech.

Give us an example of someone other than a criminal defendant being silenced by the Left.

 

Conversely, I will give you an example of the Right silencing someone:

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/08/29/justin-jones-tennessee-three-republican-lawmakers-silenced/70705428007/

 

Republican lawmakers silence 'Tennessee Three' Democrat on House floor for day on 'out of order' rule

 

33 minutes ago, bignok said:

Climate activists are fascists. They want state based control of your energy usage.

State based control = Socialism.

 

You seem to be confused.

26 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Ironically, it's the other side that are a cult, refusing to say anything positive about Trump. 

I would think that there were one or two of his policies that I'd agree with. Apart from that he's a vile human being. He has not one character trait that I could admire.

 

Does that make me a lefty, a socialist, a cult member?

1 minute ago, Woof999 said:

I would think that there were one or two of his policies that I'd agree with. Apart from that he's a vile human being. He has not one character trait that I could admire.

 

Does that make me a lefty, a socialist, a cult member?

He's got great marketing skills. He's mentally tough. He can speak for hours without a script. He has lots of money.

 

You have none of those skills.

Just now, bignok said:

He's got great marketing skills. He's mentally tough. He can speak for hours without a script. He has lots of money.

 

You have none of those skills.

Ad hominem. The mark of a true debater.

 

1 minute ago, bignok said:

He's got great marketing skills. He's mentally tough

He is one of the weakest men in the public eye I've ever seen. He cannot tolerate any kind of criticism, constructive or not.

 

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

He can speak for hours without a script.

About himself. That's a positive?

 

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

He has lots of money.

He inherited lots of money. Which of his business enterprises are profitable? How many has he put into bankrupcy?

 

3 minutes ago, bignok said:

You have none of those skills.

You know little to nothing about my skills.

1 minute ago, bignok said:

Are you worth $2bn? No

Can you give 1000 political speeches? Nope

Can you stand in front of negative media for 8 years and deal with the pressure? Nope

 

You can wear sandals and drink Chang.

 

You have no skills.

I'm not running for PoTUS, nor facing a load of indictments..