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On 9/23/2023 at 1:28 PM, 2baht said:

Bob, you can't escape everyone, you have to be somewhat flexible! The older you get, the more you value life! Hang in there, don't despair! :thumbsup:

'Nothing really matters' is not necessarily a realization that causes despair. I find it very freeing.

 

Although I would rephrase it. I'd say we make our own meaning in life. In the end, it doesn't matter, but it feels like it does. 

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On 9/23/2023 at 1:31 AM, Sticky Rice Balls said:

Ive found that ever since hitting the ignore button on Bob and Big Nok im much happier....

Clearly, your ignore button doesn't work very well if you are  here telling us about ignoring poor old Bob.

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6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It doesn't. We only think it does because we think about ourselves as mattering.

100 years from now most of us will be entirely forgotten.

 

After enough time even the universe will be dead.

Precisely.  Which is why all this "mattering" (wittering?)  about "climate catastrophe" doesn't matter one whit.

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When I was in  my 20s I used to argue about anything and everything, especially politics. 

 

At my present (advanced) age, I would say that only about 10% of things in life are ever worth arguing about.  Makes for a much more peaceful life.

 

For example, does it really matter who wins the next American presidential election when we consider the fiction we all pretend to believe in, that one man (woman?) alone can actually govern 350 million people?

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The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.” John Stuart Mill 1867
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1 hour ago, blazes said:

When I was in  my 20s I used to argue about anything and everything, especially politics. 

 

At my present (advanced) age, I would say that only about 10% of things in life are ever worth arguing about.  Makes for a much more peaceful life.

 

For example, does it really matter who wins the next American presidential election when we consider the fiction we all pretend to believe in, that one man (woman?) alone can actually govern 350 million people?

Correct. Its all a waste of time. I just focus on gf and holidays. All the rest is bs.

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Nope...doesn't matter. Existential nihilist most of my adult life. There is no meaning or purpose to our lives other than what we give them and/or make of them. And many people around the globe never even get that luxury. The universe and nature are dangerous and don't a whit about humans...or any life forms. Or any nonlife forms. There's no good reason or shred of evidence to think there's any god(s) or afterlife. This is it. Make of it what you can. Enjoy it...if so fortunate. Though not at the expense, harm, exploitation or suffering of others...including our fellow nonhuman animal earthlings. 

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15 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Nope...doesn't matter. Existential nihilist most of my adult life. There is no meaning or purpose to our lives other than what we give them and/or make of them. And many people around the globe never even get that luxury. The universe and nature are dangerous and don't a whit about humans...or any life forms. Or any nonlife forms. There's no good reason or shred of evidence to think there's any god(s) or afterlife. This is it. Make of it what you can. Enjoy it...if so fortunate. Though not at the expense, harm, exploitation or suffering of others...including our fellow nonhuman animal earthlings. 

I agree mate. 

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I have been on the treadmill you describe most of my life.  Running fullsteam and getting nowhere.  The hampster wheel spinning full blast.

 

Each supposed life success which was going to lead to everlasting happiness faded into nothing very quick.  

 

The University degree.  First big salary, New home.  Promotion, more money.  Love. Car. Bigger home. Bigger car.  None of it was satisfying.

 

Then I tried travel, gambling, night life, alcohol, over eating.  Most of the vices.  Same result.  No lasting satisfaction.

 

Decade after decade of futility.  Having tried everything else without success, I turned to understanding my soul and how to nurture and feed it.  And the garden began to blossom.  Tangible results in health, fitness, mental acuity, happened automatically.  A pleasant feeling of life returned.

 

You are body and soul.  Learn how to satisfy your soul and you will find what is missing.  It would have been so much easier if I wasn't so hardheaded.

 

 

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On 9/25/2023 at 6:51 PM, Unify said:

'Nothing really matters' is not necessarily a realization that causes despair. I find it very freeing.

 

Although I would rephrase it. I'd say we make our own meaning in life. In the end, it doesn't matter, but it feels like it does. 

Agree. If more people realised that they don't actually matter the world  would be a better place, IMO.

When people think they matter they take themselves too seriously, IMO.

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On 9/26/2023 at 1:43 AM, Mark Nothing said:

I have been on the treadmill you describe most of my life.  Running fullsteam and getting nowhere.  The hampster wheel spinning full blast.

 

Each supposed life success which was going to lead to everlasting happiness faded into nothing very quick.  

 

The University degree.  First big salary, New home.  Promotion, more money.  Love. Car. Bigger home. Bigger car.  None of it was satisfying.

 

Then I tried travel, gambling, night life, alcohol, over eating.  Most of the vices.  Same result.  No lasting satisfaction.

 

Decade after decade of futility.  Having tried everything else without success, I turned to understanding my soul and how to nurture and feed it.  And the garden began to blossom.  Tangible results in health, fitness, mental acuity, happened automatically.  A pleasant feeling of life returned.

 

You are body and soul.  Learn how to satisfy your soul and you will find what is missing.  It would have been so much easier if I wasn't so hardheaded.

 

 

Any tips on doing that? You meditate or read books?

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20 minutes ago, bignok said:

I feel like driving into a jungle and living there somedays. The western world sucks.

After a few days of mosquitoes, leeches, snakes and scorpions I suspect your mindset will be different.

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