Ah, as a Brit outsider confused by US politics, I now realise that my American friend was referring to Pelosi supporters when he said "The house is full of nancy boys"

43 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Well, they can be “ideals” … you and I would probably agree that they are not positive ideals but ideals by definition need not be positive. Don’t you agree?

Of course. Nazis and fascists have ideals as well. Horrible ones, but ideals nonetheless. But in my world, the words ‘idealist’ and ‘ideal’ have positive connotations, having to do with wanting to do things for the greater good. 

6 hours ago, malibukid said:

the Republicans just handed the Democrats a win in 2024

Voters in 2024 won't remember what happened in 2023.

 

 

Jim Jordan wants to be Speaker????

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Jim Jordan wants to be Speaker????

You think that's ridiculous? Wait till you read this:

Guess Who Far-Right Republicans Want to be the Next House Speaker?

For the first time in U.S. history, the House voted Tuesday night to vacate the speakership. Most Republicans, including the ones who voted to kick McCarthy out, quickly made it clear that they have no idea what actually happens next. But a candidate soon began to emerge: Donald Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/ll-never-guess-far-wants-141130260.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABAhEfkLQgfQUTTFBeuTdUqrnf9rM3p7j6H7Q4nPA_wK0K_NWsBEX4yiCvcVqR20bC-QkRKTOVJc8UrB8yrSKhPNlJ2ecMjs6J0F1XPhId0vjnHEfWwF6AgCBmt6urZUn12KjMYNydI9MCEfYc1xfdRhHFUnrPAieVZp9W9Fjcdz

 

I think Trump will have enough sense to avoid that entanglement. After all, to be good Speaker, you have to be a good negotiator. And Trump is notoriously bad at that.

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You think that's ridiculous? Wait till you read this:

Guess Who Far-Right Republicans Want to be the Next House Speaker?

For the first time in U.S. history, the House voted Tuesday night to vacate the speakership. Most Republicans, including the ones who voted to kick McCarthy out, quickly made it clear that they have no idea what actually happens next. But a candidate soon began to emerge: Donald Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/ll-never-guess-far-wants-141130260.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABAhEfkLQgfQUTTFBeuTdUqrnf9rM3p7j6H7Q4nPA_wK0K_NWsBEX4yiCvcVqR20bC-QkRKTOVJc8UrB8yrSKhPNlJ2ecMjs6J0F1XPhId0vjnHEfWwF6AgCBmt6urZUn12KjMYNydI9MCEfYc1xfdRhHFUnrPAieVZp9W9Fjcdz

 

I think Trump will have enough sense to avoid that entanglement. After all, to be good Speaker, you have to be a good negotiator. And Trump is notoriously bad at that.

I think Trump can not be elected speaker, gop rules prevent a speaker indicted for crimes that carry a 2+ years sentence.

16 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You think that's ridiculous? Wait till you read this:

Guess Who Far-Right Republicans Want to be the Next House Speaker?

For the first time in U.S. history, the House voted Tuesday night to vacate the speakership. Most Republicans, including the ones who voted to kick McCarthy out, quickly made it clear that they have no idea what actually happens next. But a candidate soon began to emerge: Donald Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/ll-never-guess-far-wants-141130260.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABAhEfkLQgfQUTTFBeuTdUqrnf9rM3p7j6H7Q4nPA_wK0K_NWsBEX4yiCvcVqR20bC-QkRKTOVJc8UrB8yrSKhPNlJ2ecMjs6J0F1XPhId0vjnHEfWwF6AgCBmt6urZUn12KjMYNydI9MCEfYc1xfdRhHFUnrPAieVZp9W9Fjcdz

 

I think Trump will have enough sense to avoid that entanglement. After all, to be good Speaker, you have to be a good negotiator. And Trump is notoriously bad at that.

Sensationalism from a liberal left rag... they are known for it so it's ok

Just now, stevenl said:

I think Trump can not be elected speaker, gop rules prevent a speaker indicted for crimes that carry a 2+ years sentence.

FELONIES that carry 2+ years.

2 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Sensationalism from a liberal left rag... they are known for it so it's ok

It's the representatives touting him, not the media.

3 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

FELONIES that carry 2+ years.

Thanks for the addition. So he is not eligible.

8 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Sensationalism from a liberal left rag... they are known for it so it's ok

Did they make this up too?

"Freedom Caucus member Troy Nehls was one of the first to suggest the former president as a candidate for speaker.

His call was soon taken up by other far-right Republicans, such as Greg Steube and Marjorie Taylor Greene."

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Thanks for the addition. So he is not eligible.

AS of right now today he is... no convictions yet.

13 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

AS of right now today he is... no convictions yet.

False, It's about indictment, not convictions. That said, the House could ignore the rules.

 

"Each party adopts its own set of rules at the start of each Congressional session. The GOP’s conference rule, House Rule 26(a), and the Democratic party’s caucus rule, Rule 4, each have the same rules about holding a leadership position while under indictment.

They both say a member who has been indicted for a felony that could carry a sentence of two or more years imprisonment needs to vacate their position." 

https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/verify/donald-trump/what-house-rules-say-trump-serving-speaker-and-why-they-might-not-matter/536-91f5295b-abb7-4d9a-8084-1e11170437cb

 

That said, the House could ignore the rules

17 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

AS of right now today he is... no convictions yet.

Do you understand your own posts?

17 hours ago, JCauto said:

whereas the Republicans take a fundamentally "hands off" approach to government

That  might be good if it was true.

The Republicans support deregulation when it comes to bussiness,  lower taxes , which again helps those with the most to tax. And gun control.

They say there is a need to get big goverment out of the way.

but they have no problem getting in the way of, reproductive rights. Immigration issues, same sex marriage, religion, sex education,recreational drug use. etc. 

 

58 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Sensationalism from a liberal left rag... they are known for it so it's ok

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-lawmakers-float-trump-house-speaker-mccarthy-ousting

 

Another far left rag reports on Trump becoming Speaker. Oh, wait! That's FOX News.

Why didn't Democrats rescue Speaker McCarthy?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-didnt-democrats-rescue-speaker-mccarthy-173157244.html

12 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Why didn't Democrats rescue Speaker McCarthy?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-didnt-democrats-rescue-speaker-mccarthy-173157244.html

“I am not his mom, and my job is not to put pool noodles around hard corners for Republicans.” - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

Any Trump fans here unhappy that McCarthy is out?

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Any Trump fans here unhappy that McCarthy is out?

This guy, Patrick McHenry, appears to be quite upset.

 

 

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Any Trump fans here unhappy that McCarthy is out?

Not a Trump fan, but the whole sad spectacle is embarrassing. If 96% of the GOP lawmakers wanted McCarthy to continue, what does that make the recalcitrant 4%? A bunch of petulant babies IMHO.  They all need to be primaried in 2024.

25 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Not a Trump fan, but the whole sad spectacle is embarrassing. If 96% of the GOP lawmakers wanted McCarthy to continue, what does that make the recalcitrant 4%? A bunch of petulant babies IMHO.  They all need to be primaried in 2024.

Actually, a lot more petulant babies than just those 8. All the Republicans who preferred to shut down the government deserve to be primaried.

Elect Trump, he already is the House leader. Just do it!