Jingthing Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: “well beyond rationality” ….. what a remarkably benign description of the extermination of 6 million jewish men, women and children …. thanks for not leaving your views beyond any possible doubt They already weren't but that was icing on the Jew hating cake. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Paul Catton said: I apologise! Was a tongue in cheek rhetorical type of question to you. Propaganda, Misinformation, Disinformation, Religion and appeasements have created the "perfect storm'. I apologise! Was a tongue in cheek rhetorical type of question to you. Well I never would have guessed.......... As for your rant on propaganda, I suggest you re read your own posts before making light of people that were actually there collecting the bodies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lacrimas said: Have fun then https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/combating-antisemitism/legal-framework_en Liar. You said in some countries it is illegal to say ANYTHING critical of Israel. That was a lie. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrimas Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, Jingthing said: Liar. You said in some countries it is illegal to say ANYTHING critical of Israel. That was a lie. So you don't think this law is used to censor any kind of critics towards Israel? You are quite naive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paul Catton Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: Did not know you kiwi did not have news broadcast like ccn,al jazeera Hmm normal people look to them for the news or do yoy think its all Misinformation, Disinformation,& Propoganda think you should go bury your head in the sand because you are just making a fool of yourself now Mike, get a grasp on grammar or lay off the grog. With regard to unfolding developments in the Middle East. Al Jazeera is first upon my radar, as it current regarding any event, perhaps not always true form. Only ostrich i see, I'm responding to. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 50 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Israel can't miss this opportunity to wipe out their enemy. I know you can never say anything bad about Israel but try to look at both sides. You think Israel and Israelis are thrilled going into Gaza? Looking forward to the death toll? Israel's (or, put differently, Netanyahu's) strategy up to now was to keep the Gaza Strip pacified through economic means, with the occasional blowout when things got out of hand. While it wasn't ideal, I'm pretty sure it was preferable to what we're about to see. Calling this an 'opportunity' is kinda sick. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrimas Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Paul Catton said: Mike, get a grasp on grammar or lay off the grog. With regard to unfolding developments in the Middle East. Al Jazeera is first upon my radar, as it current regarding any event, perhaps not always true form. Only ostrich i see, I'm responding to. We are wasting our time, like I said in a few posts back, in this forum there's people still believing in good and evil like the world was a Marvel movie. Completely clueless. I admire they know the full history of the Mandate but falling for a completely distorted western view of history doesn't make you intelligent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 54 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: So Hamas beheading 40 babies, as evinced by Joe Biden through "pictures he saw", later retracted by all. Again 40 children within a conflict seem to be expendable by either side, without the need to garnish it as homicidal butchery. Gaza children are reaching how many? And total count of Palestinian children throughout these years amount to what number? Makes me wretch, It doesn't really matter whether them Israeli babies were beheaded, slaughtered, burned alive, shot or whatnot. What does matter is that they are dead. What does matter is that killing them was deliberate. What mattered is that this was planned for months. This was evil. People (and yes, children too) die during wars and military operations. It's only same same if they are intentionally targeted. The people of the Gaza Strip are not. Take it a step further on that scale of evil. Hamas carried out the attack knowing full well the consequences. There was no attempt to do anything to assure the safety of Gazans. In fact, Hamas urges them to stay put and die for the cause (while Hamas leaders are safely in underground bunkers, or having a good time on luxury hotels in the Gulf). 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lacrimas said: So you don't think this law is used to censor any kind of critics towards Israel? You are quite naive. You keep lying. Not any and all. Only that which fits the definition of antisemitism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrimas Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: You keep lying. Not any and all. Only that which fits the definition of antisemitism. go ahead, say Israel is a criminal state in Germany. See what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeandDow Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Mike, get a grasp on grammar or lay off the grog. With regard to unfolding developments in the Middle East. Al Jazeera is first upon my radar, as it current regarding any event, perhaps not always true form. Only ostrich i see, I'm responding to. are these not your word "40 babies were slaughtered, then where they? If the babies were slaughtered there would be no grieving parents" a denial, you should hang you head in shame if you think it is all Misinformation, Disinformation,& Propoganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Lacrimas said: It's even against the law to say anything against Israel in certain countries Which ones please .... just naming one will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Why wasn't the Israeli Air Force around the border a week ago? I would have thought they could have intercepted the Hamas Paragliders. The paragliders were but one aspect of this attack. Israel's intelligence, operational and strategic failures were discussed, in detail, on quite a lot of posts by now. Why come with this out of nowhere as if it's some new info or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 20 hours ago, Danny Australia said: Thank you. Hope this is true. Next humane thing is to allow medical supplies which have reached a critical level and allow medical evacuation of the critically injured civilians and to stop the targeting of medical facilities, ambulances and medical personnel, as we have seen videos of bombed hospitals, destroyed ambulances and injured first responders. Things will get really ugly once the troops move inside Gaza. Spokesperson for the Hamas interior ministry Eyad Al-Bozom said on Monday that Israel had not permitted water supplies to be turned back on in Gaza, as had been reported. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/oct/16/israel-hamas-war-live-update-news-today-gaza-water-fuel-aid-egypt-border-rafah-crossing-latest-updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Which ones please .... just naming one will do https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/5/18/law-or-no-law-canadians-better-not-criticise-israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Morch said: It doesn't really matter whether them Israeli babies were beheaded, slaughtered, burned alive, shot or whatnot. What does matter is that they are dead. What does matter is that killing them was deliberate. What mattered is that this was planned for months. This was evil. People (and yes, children too) die during wars and military operations. It's only same same if they are intentionally targeted. The people of the Gaza Strip are not. Take it a step further on that scale of evil. Hamas carried out the attack knowing full well the consequences. There was no attempt to do anything to assure the safety of Gazans. In fact, Hamas urges them to stay put and die for the cause (while Hamas leaders are safely in underground bunkers, or having a good time on luxury hotels in the Gulf). Was it 1 baby, 2, 3 or more? Were their parents legitimate targets IDF and caught in the crossfire living within close proximity to the worlds largest open prison? Did the Hamas force just attack the IDF bases and take some hostages, followed bythe repressed population who also went through the wire and exacted vengeance for their lost children, brothers, sisters, parents. How much is propaganda, how much is truth - never the twain will meet An Eye for an Eye will makes us all blind except for last man standing with impaired vision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thorgal said: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/5/18/law-or-no-law-canadians-better-not-criticise-israel I didn't ask for a third party link, I asked the poster to name at least one country in which it is against the law to criticise Israel; which is what he claimed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeandDow Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Paul Catton said: Was it 1 baby, 2, 3 or more? Were their parents legitimate targets IDF and caught in the crossfire living within close proximity to the worlds largest open prison? Did the Hamas force just attack the IDF bases and take some hostages, followed bythe repressed population who also went through the wire and exacted vengeance for their lost children, brothers, sisters, parents. How much is propaganda, how much is truth - never the twain will meet An Eye for an Eye will makes us all blind except for last man standing with impaired vision. Read the News!! oh i forget its all Misinformation, Disinformation,& Propoganda 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacrimas Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: I didn't ask for a third party link, I asked the poster to name at least one country in which it is against the law to criticise Israel; which is what he claimed https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/combating-antisemitism/legal-framework_en Of course these laws are being exploited in favor of Israel so that no criticism is allowed. Von Der Leyen was heavily criticized for this reason recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Spokesperson for the Hamas interior ministry Eyad Al-Bozom said on Monday that Israel had not permitted water supplies to be turned back on in Gaza, as had been reported. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/oct/16/israel-hamas-war-live-update-news-today-gaza-water-fuel-aid-egypt-border-rafah-crossing-latest-updates can’t open this link because I have anti-woke software on my computer, which obviously bins anything from the Guardian ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted October 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Paul Catton said: I do not hide behind pseudonym. I spent my formative years in the Middle East, I never play emotive card. 40 babies were slaughtered, then where they? If the babies were slaughtered there would be no grieving parents as they would have been slaughtered likewise. Reality doesn't fit the narrative. The words sick and puppy keep coming to me. No idea why. Pictures were shown, shared and distributed. Many media outlets and websites choose not to publish such gruesome horrors (including, I think, this forum). They can be found though searching the net, changing certain preferences if you have them on. I stopped watching after a while. Unless you missed it some cases whole families were slaughtered or abducted. In other cases, some survived and some did not. Other cases people were killed on the way to the Gaza Strip. Many options to choose from. As posted earlier, this specific issue seems to either bring out the worse in some posters or maybe attracts the worst posters. Not that important a distinction, perhaps. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lacrimas said: https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/combating-antisemitism/legal-framework_en Of course these laws are being exploited in favor of Israel so that no criticism is allowed. Von Der Leyen was heavily criticized for this reason recently. Are you having trouble with the comprehension of posts you read; I said I did not ask for third party links, simply the name of one country in which it is against the law to criticise Israel …. I am only asking because you said it was against the law in some countries to criticise Israel …. or were you making it up ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Catton Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: are these not your word "40 babies were slaughtered, then where they? If the babies were slaughtered there would be no grieving parents" a denial, you should hang you head in shame if you think it is all Misinformation, Disinformation,& Propoganda Have You, and also "Joe Biden" who said he has seen photographs of this decapitations, now, slaughter, perhaps eventually collateral damage like the children in Gaza, I have no reason alone to hang my head in shame. Humanity itself needs to do the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: It's acknowledged there were failures in the Israeli defense system. They will be investigated after the war. Hmm, when Gaza has been taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: Are you having trouble with the comprehension of posts you read; I said I did not ask for third party links, simply the name of one country in which it is against the law to criticise Israel …. I am only asking because you said it was against the law in some countries to criticise Israel …. or were you making it up ?? USA https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2019/00741 Under the state’s legislation (Florida), it would be illegal to speak out in public institutions against Israel’s human rights violations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 42 minutes ago, Lacrimas said: So you don't think this law is used to censor any kind of critics towards Israel? He didn't say that; stop trying to put words into other posters mouths, so that you can respond to what they did not in fact say 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Paul Catton said: Have You, and also "Joe Biden" who said he has seen photographs of this decapitations, now, slaughter, perhaps eventually collateral Sleepy is a liar. He has a lot to gain with control of the middle east oil fields. Bush had a go too, with an equally unjust war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Thorgal said: Under the state’s legislation (Florida), When did Florida become a country please ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Thorgal said: Under the state’s legislation (Florida) Edited October 16, 2023 by Eloquent pilgrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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