4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You need to get your evidence to Trump’s defense team.

Oh boy trumps national guard bs oh boy do they really believe what trump says?funney the national guard dident come to trumps defense when he made those (sounds) the guy is such a liar that the sounds he makes with his mouth are meaningless 

23 minutes ago, impulse said:

No.  I'm saying that if it were an insurrection, they wouldn't have left their guns back at home.  And Trump wouldn't have offered National Guard protection if that was his plan.

 

The guns were stored nearby.

 

Trump didn't offer National Guard protection

 

Trump did not sign an order to deploy 20,000 troops on Jan. 6

47 minutes ago, impulse said:

.....where Pelosi had declined Trump's offer of National Guard to protect the Capital building.  

 

That's a complete lie.  Yet, you still believe it.  What the heck is wrong with these MAGA people?

8 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The guns were stored nearby.

 

Trump didn't offer National Guard protection

 

Trump did not sign an order to deploy 20,000 troops on Jan. 6

Why would he sign an order if Pelosi declined?

 

From your link:

 

While Trump was involved in discussions in the days prior to Jan. 6 about the National Guard response, he issued no such order before or during the rioting.

 

The House sergeant at arms does sit on the Capitol Police Board, which also includes the Senate sergeant at arms and the architect of the Capitol. That board opted not to request the Guard ahead of the insurrection, but did eventually request assistance after the rioting had already begun. 

 

My claim is that he offered, and the offer was declined.  I never claimed he ordered troops.

 

 

Edited October 12, 20232 yr by impulse

12 minutes ago, impulse said:

Why would he sign an order if Pelosi declined?

 

From your link:

 

While Trump was involved in discussions in the days prior to Jan. 6 about the National Guard response, he issued no such order before or during the rioting.

 

The House sergeant at arms does sit on the Capitol Police Board, which also includes the Senate sergeant at arms and the architect of the Capitol. That board opted not to request the Guard ahead of the insurrection, but did eventually request assistance after the rioting had already begun. 

 

My claim is that he offered, and the offer was declined.  I never claimed he ordered troops.

 

 

Fact Check: Did Pelosi Reject Trump’s Request for National Guard Troops on January 6?

 

It's hard to imagine you still believe Donald Trump's lies.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Fact Check: Did Pelosi Reject Trump’s Request for National Guard Troops on January 6?

 

It's hard to imagine you still believe Donald Trump's lies.

And I find it hard to imagine anyone who still believes the MSM and so called fact checkers after they're been proven wrong again and again.  Russian collusion, Hunter's laptop, $3.5 million from China, "no evidence of voter machine problems"...  Need I go on?

 

But I'm packing for my flight to BKK so I'll let you TDS'ers carry on without me for a day or so...

 

45 minutes ago, impulse said:

Why would he sign an order if Pelosi declined?

 

From your link:

 

While Trump was involved in discussions in the days prior to Jan. 6 about the National Guard response, he issued no such order before or during the rioting.

 

The House sergeant at arms does sit on the Capitol Police Board, which also includes the Senate sergeant at arms and the architect of the Capitol. That board opted not to request the Guard ahead of the insurrection, but did eventually request assistance after the rioting had already begun. 

 

My claim is that he offered, and the offer was declined.  I never claimed he ordered troops.

 

 

The same debunked B.S. again! Pelosi was not in charge of security at the Capitol.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/

 

Edited October 12, 20232 yr by candide

1 hour ago, impulse said:

No.  I'm saying that if it were an insurrection, they wouldn't have left their guns back at home.  And Trump wouldn't have offered National Guard protection if that was his plan.

 

And why did Trump want the National Guard for?  ????

 

Trump wanted troops to protect his supporters at Jan. 6 rally

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congresswoman-says-trump-administration-botched-capitol-riot-preparations-2021-05-12/

 

In his simple mind, he may even have thought that the N.G. would have sided with protesters.

1 hour ago, impulse said:

And I find it hard to imagine anyone who still believes the MSM and so called fact checkers after they're been proven wrong again and again.  Russian collusion, Hunter's laptop, $3.5 million from China, "no evidence of voter machine problems"...  Need I go on?

 

But I'm packing for my flight to BKK so I'll let you TDS'ers carry on without me for a day or so...

 

OK, so you’ve swallowed Trump’s instructions to not believe the media.

 

How about you wash it down with a large glass of this:

 

“The D.C National Guard was formed in 1802 by President Thomas Jefferson to defend the newly created District of Columbia. As such, the Commanding General of the D.C. National Guard is subordinate solely to the President of the United States.  This authority to activate the D.C. National Guard has been delegated, by the President, to the Secretary of Defense and further delegated to the Secretary of the Army.  The D.C. National Guard is the only National Guard unit, out of all of the 54 states and territories, which reports only to the President. ”

 

https://dc.ng.mil/About-Us/

 

 

Let me know if you want some pickles or sauce on your proven utterly wrong burger.

 

 

Edited October 12, 20232 yr by Chomper Higgot

5 hours ago, impulse said:

If that's true, she's a perfect example of why someone long ago coined the phrase "Physician, heal thyself". 

 

That woman oozes crazy.

 

Really?

 

And what experience do HAVE in Psychiatric diagnosis to state that the woman oozes crazy?

 

Have you ever met her, diagnosed  her (according to you) problem?

 

Al least she has met Trump and has the qualifications to diagnose him.

 

Or is it that we HAVE to take your word that YOU know more than Mary Trump?

6 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Actually if you were accurate with any of your posts you would have posted "Just like Vietnam in 1975"... but what's two years right.

Secondly what does this have to do with the Afghanistan withdrawal except to point out that Joe didn't learn a thing from the botched Vietnam debacle and just repeated a failed policy??

A failed policy that was initiated by Trump during the last days of his failed presidency.

 

There is a lot more information in the link below.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

 

The fact is, President Joe Biden and his predecessor, Donald Trump, were both eager to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan and end what Biden referred to in his Aug. 16 speech as “America’s longest war.”

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.

 

Trump Strikes a Deal
Feb. 29, 2020 — U.S. and Taliban sign an agreement that sets the terms for a U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan by May 1, 2021, but do not release two classified annexes that set the conditions for U.S. withdrawal. At the time of the agreement, the U.S. had about 13,000 troops in Afghanistan, according to a Department of Defense inspector general report.

Edited October 12, 20232 yr by billd766
corrected some bad spelling

5 hours ago, impulse said:

Why would he sign an order if Pelosi declined?

 

From your link:

 

While Trump was involved in discussions in the days prior to Jan. 6 about the National Guard response, he issued no such order before or during the rioting.

 

The House sergeant at arms does sit on the Capitol Police Board, which also includes the Senate sergeant at arms and the architect of the Capitol. That board opted not to request the Guard ahead of the insurrection, but did eventually request assistance after the rioting had already begun. 

 

My claim is that he offered, and the offer was declined.  I never claimed he ordered troops.

 

 

provide a link showing that Trump offered the National Guard, and Nanci Pelosi declined. There is something called "Google" that can help you.

On 10/11/2023 at 8:43 AM, JonnyF said:

We all have THAT strange relative who starts ranting nonsense at the family get togethers. 

 

She sounds a bit like some of the anti-Trump brigade on here TBH. 

 

"Could someone have a look for Mary's tablets please." ????

Why?

 

She speaks logic and reality. trump is ignorant and dangerous and should be in jail.

On 10/11/2023 at 1:43 AM, JonnyF said:

We all have THAT strange relative who starts ranting nonsense at the family get togethers. 

 

She sounds a bit like some of the anti-Trump brigade on here TBH. 

 

"Could someone have a look for Mary's tablets please." ????

Why don't you go ahead and point out something....anything....positive about trump.

 

-He tried to overthrow US democracy

-He stole highly classified documents and then lied about it

-He is a convicted sex offender

-He is a convicted charity fraudster

-He withheld already-approved aid to Ukraine expecting Zelenskyy to make up lies about Biden

-He is a convicted fraudster (for his silly "university")

-In a partial summary judgement, he was found to have committed bank and insurance fraud

-He ordered his bag man to pay off a pornstar with whom he had an affair, watched the bagman convicted for the crime and sentenced to jail...all so Stormy would say again, "not quite freakishly small by well below average"

-He uses tactics taught him by Roy Cohn to elicit violence from his Goobers...anyone who argues otherwise is either a liar of an idiot...trump is more transparent than a stripper's nighty

-He tried to pressure the Georgia SecState to commit fraud and 'just find me 11,780 votes'

-Such a child is trump that he threw a hissy fit when Forbes removed him from its 400 list, tossing out the usual "failing publication" argument...yet he demands to be on that 'failing publication's' money list

-Oh, the the self-proclaimed real estate genius claimed his 10,997 sf NYC apartment was 33,000 sf

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

A failed policy that was initiated by Trump during the last days of his failed presidency.

 

There is a lot more information in the link below.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

 

The fact is, President Joe Biden and his predecessor, Donald Trump, were both eager to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan and end what Biden referred to in his Aug. 16 speech as “America’s longest war.”

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.

 

Trump Strikes a Deal
Feb. 29, 2020 — U.S. and Taliban sign an agreement that sets the terms for a U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan by May 1, 2021, but do not release two classified annexes that set the conditions for U.S. withdrawal. At the time of the agreement, the U.S. had about 13,000 troops in Afghanistan, according to a Department of Defense inspector general report.

It seems to be a recurring behaviour for Trump: negotiate an agreement without the presence of the other main interlocutor.

He also made a peace plan by only consulting Netanyahu, without involving the Palestinian Authority.

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

A failed policy that was initiated by Trump during the last days of his failed presidency.

 

There is a lot more information in the link below.

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

 

The fact is, President Joe Biden and his predecessor, Donald Trump, were both eager to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan and end what Biden referred to in his Aug. 16 speech as “America’s longest war.”

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.

 

Trump Strikes a Deal
Feb. 29, 2020 — U.S. and Taliban sign an agreement that sets the terms for a U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan by May 1, 2021, but do not release two classified annexes that set the conditions for U.S. withdrawal. At the time of the agreement, the U.S. had about 13,000 troops in Afghanistan, according to a Department of Defense inspector general report.

Those Taliban jihadis, once trump released them, went on to overthrow the Afghan govt, and they now run it. They also engineered the airport attack that left many US Marines dead.

 

"The great dealmaker"....only if you're on the other side.

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

Those Taliban jihadis, once trump released them, went on to overthrow the Afghan govt, and they now run it. They also engineered the airport attack that left many US Marines dead.

 

"The great dealmaker"....only if you're on the other side.

Trump was probably the worst president ever but he still continues to be an asset to our worst enemies .Mary Trump is correct and she has the experience and credentials to state her diagnosis .stop undermining our nation ignore this fraud and let justice follow its course.if he continues to try to intimidate or interfere lock his rear end up.then deal with any nutters.simple get it done!!