Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Correct, refer ONS report I linked above.

 

 

Incorrect.

 

Some/many/a %%%% of voters............

 

Not "voters". That suggests all that vote.

 

 

3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Incorrect.

 

Some/many/a %%%% of voters............

 

Not "voters". That suggests all that vote.

 

 

Where would sophistry be without obsessive semantics?

 

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Where would sophistry be without obsessive semantics?

 

Where would forums be without the usual inane questions from those defending incorrect comments?

Just now, youreavinalaff said:

Where would forums be without the usual inane questions from those defending incorrect comments?

Which is why it’s always nice to have a report from the ONS and a couple of by-election results to refer to.

 

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Which is why it’s always nice to have a report from the ONS and a couple of by-election results to refer to.

 

 

Exactly.

 

All of which prove not all voters think the same or vote for the same reasons. As I've already stated. 

Just now, youreavinalaff said:

Exactly.

 

All of which prove not all voters think the same or vote for the same reasons. As I've already stated. 

Shock horror, voters each have a range of concerns at the front of their mind as they vote.

 

Double shock horror, those concerns are shared and can be collated to reveal key concern.

 

Placeholder was right, refer ONS report.

 

17 hours ago, JonnyF said:

I think he's confusing her with Sturgeon. 

 

Bitter pills can stick in the throat for longer than expected.

Has Sturgeon had any allegations of tax avoidance leveled at her? Your desperation to protect your beloved Nasty Party is clear, of course, but that means you simply fall into fantasy whataboutery. 

 

As for Sunak's multi billionaire wife, I am sure that you are aware that she had to be shamed into paying tax in the UK.

 

In fact, I would be surprised if you were unaware because normally you are so swift to denounce the possiblity of dark skinned foreigners coming to the UK to live off the taxpayer.

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17 hours ago, placeholder said:

"We won't forget the Blair years of lies, warmongering and destabilizing the middle east any time soon."

"We"? Really. Who appointed you spokesman for the British electorate.

 

Maybe you could check the results of the last 4 general elections. We, the British people firmly rejected Labour.

 

 

17 hours ago, placeholder said:

And it's dubious that an election is going to be decided on a issue of foreign affairs. Voters pay much more attention to issues concerning the economy and health care.

 

Maybe in the past. When foreign conflicts spill over into British streets and Pro Palestine supporters desecrate the Cenotaph it becomes a massive issue. 

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Maybe you could check the results of the last 4 general elections. We, the British people firmly rejected Labour.

 

 

 

Maybe in the past. When foreign conflicts spill over into British streets and Pro Palestine supporters desecrate the Cenotaph it becomes a massive issue. 

The last four by-elections tell a different story.

 

Feel free to cling to your hope that anything at all is going to knock, the cost of living crisis, the NHS crisis, the housing crisis, climate change and the environment and of course Tory sleaze off the list of voter’s concerns.

 

Winter is on the way, heating bills will rise, the NHS crisis will worsen and with each passing day more homeowners move off fixed interest rate mortgages to their new higher ‘Tory lettuce induced’ rates.

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Maybe you could check the results of the last 4 general elections. We, the British people firmly rejected Labour.

 

That certainly goes a long way to explaining why the UK has become such an international laughing stock over the past 10 to 15 years; why infrastructure has crumbled; why inequality has rocketed and the standard of living enjoyed by most has fallen while the corrupt cabal at the top are coining it in like never before.

6 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

As for Sunak's multi billionaire wife, I am sure that you are aware that she had to be shamed into paying tax in the UK

That's not an accurate comment and you know it.

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The last four by-elections tell a different story.

 

Feel free to cling to your hope that anything at all is going to knock, the cost of living crisis, the NHS crisis, the housing crisis, climate change and the environment and of course Tory sleaze off the list of voter’s concerns.

 

Winter is on the way, heating bills will rise, the NHS crisis will worsen and with each passing day more homeowners move off fixed interest rate mortgages to their new higher ‘Tory lettuce induced’ rates.

 

 

 

Winter is the government's fault now. When will it ever end. 🤣🤣

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Maybe you could check the results of the last 4 general elections. We, the British people firmly rejected Labour.

 

 

 

Maybe in the past. When foreign conflicts spill over into British streets and Pro Palestine supporters desecrate the Cenotaph it becomes a massive issue. 

And before that, Labor won 3 in a row (without needing to be in a coalition.) By your logic, the Conservatives should never have regained power in the first place.

5 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

That's not an accurate comment and you know it.

So after her non-domicile status was reported, she proudly abandoned it?

Just now, placeholder said:

So after her non-domicile status was reported, she proudly abandoned it?

She didn't have to be shamed into paying tax in UK as she doesn't have to pay tax in UK.

 

12 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Winter is the government's fault now. When will it ever end. 🤣🤣

Oh, you are back to inventing and attributing to me points of view I myself never expressed.

 

Feel free to provide a quote from me where I state that winter is the fault of Government.

 

 

12 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

That's not an accurate comment and you know it.

 

You may be right. I don't actually think that she has the capacity to feel shame. But feel free to enlighten us on your understanding of her efforts to avoid paying UK tax.

 

Akshata Murty may have avoided up to £20m in tax with non-dom status

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/07/rishi-sunaks-wife-says-its-not-relevant-to-say-where-she-pays-tax-overseas

4 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

She didn't have to be shamed into paying tax in UK as she doesn't have to pay tax in UK.

 

So why has she begun paying taxes after her non-dom claim was exposed?

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

So why has she begun paying taxes after her non-dom claim was exposed?

To shut up the whingers. Mirror mirror.

12 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

You may be right. I don't actually think that she has the capacity to feel shame. But feel free to enlighten us on your understanding of her efforts to avoid paying UK tax.

 

Akshata Murty may have avoided up to £20m in tax with non-dom status

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/apr/07/rishi-sunaks-wife-says-its-not-relevant-to-say-where-she-pays-tax-overseas

There are no efforts required. It's the law. There are thousands with non dom status in UK. People seem to think she should be treated differently just because of her husband's job.

4 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

To shut up the whingers. Mirror mirror.

So she proudly shut up the whingers?

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

So she proudly shut up the whingers?

With one or two exceptions, it would appear.

7 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

There are no efforts required. It's the law. There are thousands with non dom status in UK. People seem to think she should be treated differently just because of her husband's job.

Yes, there are thousands. And it's not like it's a tax avoidance perk for the rich. Anyone who can lay claim to a foreign residence can do it. At least anyone with the ability to £30,000 per year.

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2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

With one or two exceptions, it would appear.

I guess whingers are a powerful political force in the UK.

50 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And before that, Labor won 3 in a row (without needing to be in a coalition.) By your logic, the Conservatives should never have regained power in the first place.

 

Labour lied to Parliament and the British electorate, taking Britain into an illegal war where thousands of UK troops were killed and the middle east was destabilized. Thats' why they were dumped and haven't been trusted since. 

 

A bit worse than having a Guardian hit piece alleging a few quid was invested into a firm linked to a politicians wife. Desperate stuff. 😄

5 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Labour lied to Parliament and the British electorate, taking Britain into an illegal war where thousands of UK troops were killed and the middle east was destabilized. Thats' why they were dumped and haven't been trusted since. 

 

A bit worse than having a Guardian hit piece alleging a few quid was invested into a firm linked to a politicians wife. Desperate stuff. 😄

Thanks for the deflection.

On 10/23/2023 at 2:25 PM, placeholder said:

I don't see how a sentence composed in the third person can be understood to be taken as that of a spokesman.

3rd person?  

1 minute ago, Raindancer said:

3rd person?  

As opposed to the first person ("I" or "we").

Just now, placeholder said:

As opposed to the first person ("I" or "we").

Yep...misread it.  Thank you.

34 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Labour lied to Parliament and the British electorate, taking Britain into an illegal war where thousands of UK troops were killed and the middle east was destabilized. Thats' why they were dumped and haven't been trusted since. 

 

A bit worse than having a Guardian hit piece alleging a few quid was invested into a firm linked to a politicians wife. Desperate stuff.

Which illegal are you referring to.  If it was the Iraq war, it was actually 179 British servicemen who lost their lives.