Thailand objects to displaying of graphic images from Hamas attack on Israel

[webfact]

Thailand’s Foreign Ministry has voiced disapproval over Israel’s publication of video showing the brutal killing of a victim, asserted to be a Thai national, at a UN General Assembly meeting.

 

The ministry’s statement described the victims being shown as being “inhumanly killed, injured and abducted” as a result of the conflict in Israel and Gaza.

 

“Such horrific brutality has stirred a sense of outrage, not only among Thais but, undoubtedly, among people worldwide,” according to the statement.

 

The ministry disapproved of the display of such footage, which does not afford the proper respect and due consideration to the deceased and his family.

 

The Thai ministry was referring to a clip shown by Israel’s permanent ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan, as he was addressing the special session of the UNGA on the Hamas-Israeli violence on Oct 26.

 

TOP: Israel’s Ambassador to the United Nations Gilad Erdan holds a paper with a QR code as he speaks to an emergency special session of the United Nations General Assembly on the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas at U.N. headquarters in New York City, U.S., October 26,.//REUTERS

 

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[Screaming]

Meanwhile, Thailand continues to court Russians, including Putin himself, to Thailand despite the autocracies that are being committed in the Ukraine by the Russian army. It's all about money with the Thais. Nothing else matters to them.

[Goat]

9 minutes ago, Screaming said:

It's all about money with the Thais. Nothing else matters to them.

By asking the israelis to show a bit of respect to families here by not showing the graphic images of their loved ones to the world how is that making them money? 

 

With a twist, a turn and a backflip perhaps?

[dinsdale]

Hamas tied a pregnant woman to a chair, cut out the baby, stabbed it to death, cut off the woman's breasts and left her to die. Hamas are animals and need to be put down. It's awful that civilians are caught up in this but Hamas are nutter Islamic terrorists.

[ourmanflint]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Hamas tied a pregnant woman to a chair, cut out the baby, stabbed it to death, cut off the woman's breasts and left her to die. Hamas are animals and need to be put down. It's awful that civilians are caught up in this but Hamas are nutter Islamic terrorists.

Yes that is terrible and Hamas are nutters, but do you think exploding bombs on pregnant women is somehow OK or better? Dead is dead. Both sides are utterly immoral

[dinsdale]

Just now, ourmanflint said:

Yes that is terrible and Hamas are nutters, but do you think exploding bombs on pregnant women is somehow OK or better? Dead is dead. Both sides are utterly immoral

Hamas are using human sheilds. They do not care about Palasinian civilians. They are a terrorist organisation that needs to be wiped out. Yes, the cost to the innocent is massive but this is down to Hamas. If they didn't go in to Israel and butcher people and take hostages this would not be happening. War is not and will never be moral. It's war.

[brewsterbudgen]

I do wonder if the Israelis would have shown the 'hoe beheading' video to the media, if it had been an Israeli victim rather than a Thai?

[silverhawk_usa]

I believe this is what the topic is about.  Many other places to debate the war.
"The ministry disapproved of the display of such footage, which does not afford the proper respect and due consideration to the deceased and his family. "

[Foxx]

57 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Hamas tied a pregnant woman to a chair, cut out the baby, stabbed it to death, cut off the woman's breasts and left her to die.

 

Fake news.  Israeli propaganda.

[dinsdale]

10 minutes ago, Foxx said:

 

Fake news.  Israeli propaganda.

Yeah! Sure. There have been images released to the media and images released to the intelligence community. You think it's all fake news? Ok. Israeli propaganda is people were shot down, people were burnt to death in their own homes, people were taken hostage, massive attrocities happened and are documented but for you this is fake news and Israeli propaganda. Fair enough. Shows where you're at in your mind.

[dinsdale]

37 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I do wonder if the Israelis would have shown the 'hoe beheading' video to the media, if it had been an Israeli victim rather than a Thai?

Absolutely they would have.

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Absolutely they would have.

Many such videos were online in the days after it happened, including this one. They were already out there.

 

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, Foxx said:

 

Fake news.  Israeli propaganda.

I really do have to respond to this again. This comment is pure trolling so please stop it or back up your comment.

[Foxx]

10 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

2 hours ago, Foxx said:

 

Fake news.  Israeli propaganda.

I really do have to respond to this again. This comment is pure trolling so please stop it or back up your comment.

 

Try searching Google for "Hamas tied a pregnant woman to a chair, cut out the baby, stabbed it to death, cut off the woman's breasts and left her to die" - not a single match from a reputable news source.  (The Daily Mail, which appears as results #2 is not a reputable news source, but a sleazy UK tabloid filled with clickbait.)

Of course, if you have a link to some reputable news sources including all the details alleged, I'll retract.

As Aeschylus said two and a half millennia ago “In war, truth is the first casualty.”  Still true today.

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, Foxx said:

 

Try searching Google for "Hamas tied a pregnant woman to a chair, cut out the baby, stabbed it to death, cut off the woman's breasts and left her to die" - not a single match from a reputable news source.  (The Daily Mail, which appears as results #2 is not a reputable news source, but a sleazy UK tabloid filled with clickbait.)

Of course, if you have a link to some reputable news sources including all the details alleged, I'll retract.

As Aeschylus said two and a half millennia ago “In war, truth is the first casualty.”  Still true today.

I guess you believe Israel bombed the hospital

[billd766]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Yeah! Sure. There have been images released to the media and images released to the intelligence community. You think it's all fake news? Ok. Israeli propaganda is people were shot down, people were burnt to death in their own homes, people were taken hostage, massive attrocities happened and are documented but for you this is fake news and Israeli propaganda. Fair enough. Shows where you're at in your mind.

It also shows where you are at in your mind.

 

Hamas is fighting with what it has against heavily armed troops, armoured bulldozers, tanks, ground attack aircraft, helicopter gunships who lay waste Gaza and ALL the Palestinians, not just Hamas.

 

Israel has a total land, sea and air blockade around Gaza, They have cut off ALL food, water, electricity and communications in Gaza. That in itself is a war crime, never mind the number of innocent Palestinians killed  murdered every single day by the IDF.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67258466

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-67257333

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67226957

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67252107

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-67254766

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-67211248

 

[dinsdale]

39 minutes ago, billd766 said:

It also shows where you are at in your mind.

 

Hamas is fighting with what it has against heavily armed troops, armoured bulldozers, tanks, ground attack aircraft, helicopter gunships who lay waste Gaza and ALL the Palestinians, not just Hamas.

 

Israel has a total land, sea and air blockade around Gaza, They have cut off ALL food, water, electricity and communications in Gaza. That in itself is a war crime, never mind the number of innocent Palestinians killed  murdered every single day by the IDF.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67258466

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-67257333

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67226957

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67252107

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-67254766

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-67211248

 

Ok. So this justifies the terrorist actions does it? Please be aware that the BBC you quote multiple times here got the missile attack on the hospital wrong. That was freindly fire so to speak. It was Hamas that launched an attack on Israel not Israel launching an attack on Gaza. It was Hamas that carried out attrocities on civilians. It was Hamas that took hostages. I don't like the right wing zealot Israelis but Hamas are just terrorist maniacs. Have you forgotten what Hamas has done? It's now said to be over 230 hostages. This seems to be the case but in reality the whole of the Palistinian populace are hostage to Hamas. Hamas does not care about the people of Gaza. They only care about their stupid religious fanaticism. Why doesn't Hamas hand over the hostages. If they cared about the people of Gaza this is what they should do.

 

[billd766]

Where do you get your information from?

 

If you wish I can link to the BBC which you don't like.

 

Al Jazeera, Youtube, UN Press, CNN, CSIS, politico.eu and many more

 

About 92,000,000 results (0.51 seconds) 

[dinsdale]

24 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Where do you get your information from?

 

If you wish I can link to the BBC which you don't like.

 

Al Jazeera, Youtube, UN Press, CNN, CSIS, politico.eu and many more

 

About 92,000,000 results (0.51 seconds) 

Hamas atrocities in Israel. Google/Youtube this.

Edited October 30, 2023 by dinsdale

[brewsterbudgen]

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Absolutely they would have.

Possibly, but with the consent of the victim's family.  It seems obvious that they did not consult the family of the Thai victim, hence the Thai government's protest.

[dinsdale]

22 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Possibly, but with the consent of the victim's family.  It seems obvious that they did not consult the family of the Thai victim, hence the Thai government's protest.

I agree. Not good. I remember seeing my father who was dying of pancreatic cancer in a hospice on TV where a TV channel was doing a story. Public interest as they were doing a story on the hospice so no consent needed was what we were told at the time. I wasn't happy about that at all. This is a big mistake by the Israeli PR/propaganda machine but they want the truth out there.

Edited October 30, 2023 by dinsdale

[Freddy42OZ]

15 hours ago, Foxx said:

 

Try searching Google for "Hamas tied a pregnant woman to a chair, cut out the baby, stabbed it to death, cut off the woman's breasts and left her to die" - not a single match from a reputable news source.  (The Daily Mail, which appears as results #2 is not a reputable news source, but a sleazy UK tabloid filled with clickbait.)

Of course, if you have a link to some reputable news sources including all the details alleged, I'll retract.

As Aeschylus said two and a half millennia ago “In war, truth is the first casualty.”  Still true today.

 

Not that specific event but there is enough info in this report to see that Hamas are just backwards animals who haven't evolved since they were herding goats in the desert 2000 years ago.  They are cavemen with automatic weapons.  

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-video-of-hamas-terror-attacks-war-in-gaza/

[JCauto]

18 hours ago, ourmanflint said:

Yes that is terrible and Hamas are nutters, but do you think exploding bombs on pregnant women is somehow OK or better? Dead is dead. Both sides are utterly immoral

That you seem not to indicates a profound lack of judgement and understanding of the human condition.

[JCauto]

18 hours ago, silverhawk_usa said:

I believe this is what the topic is about.  Many other places to debate the war.
"The ministry disapproved of the display of such footage, which does not afford the proper respect and due consideration to the deceased and his family. "

 

How does the ministry feel about the constant stream of victim videos of road accidents, shootings, etc. that are continuously published in the Thai media? Holy double standards Batman!

[JonnyF]

21 hours ago, webfact said:

The ministry’s statement described the victims being shown as being “inhumanly killed, injured and abducted” as a result of the conflict in Israel and Gaza.

 

“Such horrific brutality has stirred a sense of outrage, not only among Thais but, undoubtedly, among people worldwide,” according to the statement.

 

 

I guess they now know how Hannah Witheridge's family must have felt when she was murdered in a similar fashion (head smashed in with a garden hoe) in Koh Tao and pictures of her naked body were put on social media.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-29544361

 

[brewsterbudgen]

15 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

I guess they now know how Hannah Witheridge's family must have felt when she was murdered in a similar fashion (head smashed in with a garden hoe) in Koh Tao and pictures of her naked body were put on social media.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-norfolk-29544361

 

Not the same, unless the Thai government officially released the photos?  The point of this thread is that it was an official government briefing that featured the video of the Thai worker's decapitation.  There are thousands of other horrible videos and photos on social media, but this relates to an 'official' release.

[JonnyF]

6 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Not the same, unless the Thai government officially released the photos?  The point of this thread is that it was an official government briefing that featured the video of the Thai worker's decapitation.  There are thousands of other horrible videos and photos on social media, but this relates to an 'official' release.

 

Well, the murder was virtually identical. In terms of the release of images, the Thai police had a responsibility to ensure that those crime scene photos were not released. Do you think those photos would have been released if the victim was a member of a prominent Thai family? It was a disgrace and ultimately the government was responsible for the behaviour of the RTP.

 

But when a Thai is the victim they expect the images to remain hidden. They expect respect to be shown. A classic Thai double standard.

[bob smith]

20 hours ago, Screaming said:

It's all about money with the Thais. Nothing else matters to them.

money is the language they speak.

[2baht]

3 minutes ago, bob smith said:

money is the language they speak.

 

     It's a religion, Bahtism, they worship Lord Baht! 

[Purdey]

23 hours ago, Screaming said:

the autocracies that are being committed in the Ukraine

I think you mean atrocities?