Do you like condensed milk?

[Asquith Production]

Condensed milk contains 40 to 45 percent sugar. Anyone who consumes this in any amount must be crazy.

[PETERTHEEATER]

It has its place but not in savoury dishes. But this muck is another street food sellers dressing along with my other pet hate. Sweetened mayonnaise in sandwiches!🤢

[cracker1]

Salad Dressing made from condensed milk.

• 1 can condensed milk
• 100 - 150 ml malt vinegar
• 1 - 2 heaped tbs of mustard powder
• 1/4 tsp salt
• Put in the blender for at least a minute and store in the refrigerator.

[bendejo]

21 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

No. But on pretty girls it looks kind of sexy. ;) 

Were you making porn movies in the 1960s?

 

[spidermike007]

22 hours ago, NextG said:

Do they have Condensed Milk in Thailand? 
I haven’t seen it. It’s either some non-dairy weirdness or some milk powder mixed with palm oil etc

Condensed Milk usually comprises of Milk and Sugar. That’s it. 

Carnation is the most popular brand. It contains alot of milk. And goes rancid quickly once opened. Dangerous stuff to consume here, if opened and sitting in the hot sun. 

[KhunLA]

Not really a fan of either, evaporated or condensed.

 

Curious about the difference, so google substitute for:

Condensed milk ... use 1.5 cup sugar with can of evaporated milk, heat, stir till sugar dissolves 

[JensenZ]

20 hours ago, NextG said:

The one in the picture is Condensed. The Pat Ong Go pictured on the can should have been the giveaway for you.

But it’s not Condensed Milk anyway. It’s described as a Milk Product at best. 
 

Compare U.K version:

 

 

 

to the local versions: https://www.saleeinter.com/17549999/sweetened-condensed-milk

 

Nothing to do with Condensed Milk at all.

 

Read all about it:

 

 

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Sweetened condensed milk is one of the staples of the Thai kitchen. We pour the gooey, creamy goodness on roti, bread, coffee, tea and more -- even topping it off with sugar sometimes. Its sweetness is liked by both children and adults. We can buy a can for about 20 baht in practically every shop that sells general goods.

In the past, different countries producing lots of fresh milk would convert their products into either powdered or canned milk for ease of storage. The producers would evaporate the water out by half, with the milk ending up twice as thick. This is packed into cans. To consume, the evaporated milk is mixed with an equal amount of water to bring it back to its original condition.

Originally, sweetened condensed milk was made with 55% evaporated milk and 45% sugar.

As technology continued to develop, producers also started to become smarter (or sneakier) with their recipes. In sweetened condensed milk, milk fat is now being substituted with palm oil to reduce the cost of production. The removed fat is used to make cream and butter which can be sold at a higher price compared to milk.

The non-dairy creamer -- or artificial creamer -- led to a booming business. According to Assoc Prof Dr Visith Chavasit, director of The Institute of Nutrition at Mahidol University, the product is nothing but saturated fat mixed with flour (glucose syrup) and added milk protein. To sum it up, for both sweetened condensed milk and non-diary creamer, there's barely any milk in them any more.

Cans are now labelled as either "sweetened condensed milk product" or "sweetened condensed non-dairy creamer". A can of sweetened condensed milk on the market lists ingredients as 45% sugar, 10% non-fat powdered milk, 8% palm oil, 5% low-fat powdered milk and 4.5% whey powder.

Comparatively, a can of sweetened condensed non-dairy creamer is 48% sugar, 10% palm oil, 7.6% glucose syrup, 5.6% whey powder and 3.6% non-fat powdered milk.

Based on our observations, there are comparatively more creamers than milk products available on the market. They are sold in similar packaging and have a similar price. Without carefully reading the label, one can be mistaken for another easily.

"With the words 'non-dairy creamer' and 'milk product', manufacturers can avoid the law. They can pretty much put anything inside. On the contrary, if the product is advertised as solely 'milk', there's a set regulation as to how much milk needs to be in there," he said.

While the amount of sugar still keeps to its original 55/45 formula, it can be seen that the amount of milk has been reduced by a large margin. The change has been slow but progressive, and even now a lot of people still don't know what they're consuming every day.

"Technically, the manufacturers are not breaking any laws. They're just tweaking with the wording and going with the loopholes they can find. And the bad thing is people just don't understand the differences," said Visith. "People need to be aware that these products are not what they used to consume, even though they still retain the same taste and texture."

 

You're right, the Carnation brand available in Thailand is labeled as "Milk Product for cooking and bakery", although online shopping sites list it as "Condensed Milk".

 

If you live in Thailand, you either use it or you don't. What they use in the UK is irrelevant because it's not available here. Maybe you can convince one of the major retailers to import it then everyone will be happy. I would also prefer the real deal, as it's also real condensed milk in Australia and NZ.

 

 

[Bundooman]

Yes.

[adv008]

Make your own condensed milk. Its very easy to do and you can control how much sugar you want in it. It also works much better in bakery products 

[rwill]

I try my hardest to avoid refined sugar or corn syrup stuff.  But I know when I go to restaurants here I am probably getting sugar.  They love sugar in just about everything.

[JensenZ]

7 hours ago, Asquith Production said:

Condensed milk contains 40 to 45 percent sugar. Anyone who consumes this in any amount must be crazy.

There's nothing crazy about it at all.

 

The Thai product is 13.33% sugar (serving size = 15 ml, containing 1 gram of sugar and 2 grams total carbohydrates {probably 1 gram of lactose}). That's less sugar than most people take in their tea or coffee. A teaspoon of sugar weighs about 4 grams.

 

If that's a problem for you, you better stay away from chocolate (52% sugar) and ice cream (24% sugar) both with a lot more fat.

 

 

 

 

[steven100]

when we were kids,   mum would boil a can of condensed milk which turns it into caramel sandwich spread.  Tastes much nicer that way than as a sweet milk product. 

[sipi]

Ice cream sandwich with condensed milk and crushed nuts, served from the back of a motorbike by a lady with large knockers and a wide smile.

It's a treat.

[Asquith Production]

3 hours ago, JensenZ said:

There's nothing crazy about it at all.

 

The Thai product is 13.33% sugar (serving size = 15 ml, containing 1 gram of sugar and 2 grams total carbohydrates {probably 1 gram of lactose}). That's less sugar than most people take in their tea or coffee. A teaspoon of sugar weighs about 4 grams.

 

If that's a problem for you, you better stay away from chocolate (52% sugar) and ice cream (24% sugar) both with a lot more fat.

 

 

 

 

 Not when you eat chocolate with 85 percent cacao.

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Asquith Production said:

 Not when you eat chocolate with 85 percent cacao.

I don't eat processed chocolate candy bars or whatever anymore, and just eat dark chocolate.   Wife even got some pods a couple times and did her thing.   What a difference ... heaven.  But a lot of work, for small yield.  Thankfully the pods were free.  That would be the way to go, if finding pods cheap, and were a purist.

[Skeptic7]

Don't like any milk. 🤮 Except for my gf's...they're luscious & scrumptious❗😍

[JensenZ]

1 hour ago, Asquith Production said:

 Not when you eat chocolate with 85 percent cacao.

I should have mentioned regular milk chocolate. I would not eat the chocolate you're referring to. It has to be sweet... just as my ice cream has to be sweet and creamy LOL. 

[JensenZ]

32 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I don't eat processed chocolate candy bars or whatever anymore, and just eat dark chocolate.   Wife even got some pods a couple times and did her thing.   What a difference ... heaven.  But a lot of work, for small yield.  Thankfully the pods were free.  That would be the way to go, if finding pods cheap, and were a purist.

There's nothing wrong with eating processed candy bars, as long as they are a regular part of your diet.

 

Trying to find healthy chocolate to eat kind of defeats the purpose of having luxurious treats from time to time.

[Burma Bill]

On 12/17/2023 at 12:18 PM, Chris Daley said:

Do you like condensed milk?

 

Yes, the unsweetened condensed (concentrated) French milk available here in Cambodia - great with strong Vietnamese coffee. I am a diabetic - no sugar.

 

 

[Asquith Production]

42 minutes ago, JensenZ said:

I should have mentioned regular milk chocolate. I would not eat the chocolate you're referring to. It has to be sweet... just as my ice cream has to be sweet and creamy LOL. 

To me 85% is sweet. I keep sugar out of my diet as much as possible

[GammaGlobulin]

I do not drink milk.

 

I have not drunk milk, condensed, or otherwise, since I left America, a place where the gov encourages EVERYBODY to ALWAYS drink PLENTY of milk.

 

There is no need to drink milk, as an adult.

 

Sugar, at least for me, is poison.

 

I do not add sugar to my diet, including lactose, unless I cannot avoid doing so.

 

 

[paulbrow]

On 12/17/2023 at 12:18 PM, Chris Daley said:

On your roti, on your chicken, on your shredded pork sandwich, on your bread ''cake'', on your fried cooled and refried cold crabstick sandwiches, and on your raw cabbage salads?  I love it.

 

How about you?  Do you like condensed milk?

I hate condensed milk in most applications!

[NextG]

On 12/17/2023 at 5:48 PM, spidermike007 said:

Wrong. Most use Carnation. Carnation® Evaporated Milk is from milk with about half the water removed - making it richer, creamier and perfect to cook with.

 

Store in a cool dry place. Refrigerate after opening.

Sometimes I think that you don’t reside in Thailand at all, like so many of the posters here. Just sitting watching YouTube and making comments as if they were there. 
 

Next time, pick up one of the tins and get your girl to read the ingredients. You’d be shocked by the sounds of it. 
There is no Evaporated Milk nor Condensed Milk as you describe it. Those are products distributed elsewhere, but not in Thailand. 
In Thailand it’s a bit more ‘complicated’. 
They have ‘equivalents’ of Condensed and Evaporated Milk but not the actual products. 
Pick up the tin and READ the description. 
It will either state MILK PRODUCT or CREAMER. It WILL NOT state Condensed MILK nor Evaporated MILK. There is a reason for that. 
The Condensed product still has 45% of sugar. But the milk PRODUCTS within range from around 8% to 15% at best. Take a look for yourself. 

[NextG]

On 12/18/2023 at 11:16 AM, spidermike007 said:

Carnation is the most popular brand. It contains alot of milk. And goes rancid quickly once opened. Dangerous stuff to consume here, if opened and sitting in the hot sun. 

 

NO!

It contains a small amount of milk product. 
You are just making assumptions. 
Let’s just say that those particular brands are under different ownership in Asia. 
Fraser & Neave are a company owned by CP. They have a different recipe and don’t call it Condensed Milk nor Evaporated Milk. 
Pick up a tin and take a look for yourself. 

[NextG]

On 12/18/2023 at 2:30 PM, JensenZ said:

There's nothing crazy about it at all.

 

The Thai product is 13.33% sugar (serving size = 15 ml, containing 1 gram of sugar and 2 grams total carbohydrates {probably 1 gram of lactose}). That's less sugar than most people take in their tea or coffee. A teaspoon of sugar weighs about 4 grams.

 

If that's a problem for you, you better stay away from chocolate (52% sugar) and ice cream (24% sugar) both with a lot more fat.

 

 

 

 

Nope. The Thai product is 45% sugar. 

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, NextG said:

 

NO!

It contains a small amount of milk product. 
You are just making assumptions. 
Let’s just say that those particular brands are under different ownership in Asia. 
Fraser & Neave are a company owned by CP. They have a different recipe and don’t call it Condensed Milk nor Evaporated Milk. 
Pick up a tin and take a look for yourself. 

I did. Concentrated milk, Disodium phosphate, Sodium ascorbate (vitamin C), Carrageenan, Cholecalciferol (vitamin D3).

 

At least 50% milk product. Highly toxic and dangerous when left opened, and uncooled, in the heat. 

 

But, I know you won't agree. You must love hearing yourself argue. 

Edited December 25, 2023 by spidermike007

[NextG]

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I did. Concentrated milk, Disodium phosphate, Sodium ascorbate (vitamin C), Carrageenan, Cholecalciferol (vitamin D3).

 

At least 50% milk product. Highly toxic and dangerous when left opened, and uncooled, in the heat. 

 

But, I know you won't agree. You must love hearing yourself argue. 

Take a picture and post it here. I simply do not believe you. You are just copying and pasting from a website. Pick up an actual tin in Thailand and take a picture. 

[NextG]

6 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I did. Concentrated milk, Disodium phosphate, Sodium ascorbate (vitamin C), Carrageenan, Cholecalciferol (vitamin D3).

 

At least 50% milk product. Highly toxic and dangerous when left opened, and uncooled, in the heat. 

 

But, I know you won't agree. You must love hearing yourself argue. 

Sorry, but you are lying. 

[NextG]

It’s sad… are there only fake posters left on this forum?

100% @spidermike007 has not taken  that information off an actual tin in Thailand, but perhaps a North American website. 
Does no one have any integrity left? Shame on you. 

Edited December 25, 2023 by NextG

[thaibeachlovers]

Depends if the OP means sweetened, or non sweetened.

I used to suck down sweetened straight out of the can, but only the NZ version ( real milk ). The version in a Thai can was inferior.

 

Only gave it up as got pre diabetes. Had to give up all life's little culinary treats then. Getting old sucks greatly.