webfact Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 THE BODY of a young Ukrainian man was found mysteriously hanged with his hands tied behind his back at a remote durian orchard on Koh Samui last evening, Amarin TV said this morning (Jan. 25). Pol. Col. Denduang Thongsrisuk, superintendent of Bo Phut police station, and his team together with forensic officers, a doctor from Koh Samui Hospital and rescuers, went up the steep Tha Sok mountain on four-wheel-drive vehicles to the spot at the durian orchard where the foreign tourist’s body was found hanging from a branch of a tree. He was wearing a pair of shorts and no shirt but a red T-shirt covered half his face. Cable ties had been used to tie his hands behind his back and a red chair had fallen beneath him. His decomposed body was taken to Koh Samui Hospital for autopsy and it was estimated that he had been dead for four to five days. by TNR Staff TOP: Rescuers taking the body of the dead Ukrainian man to the hospital for autopsy. Photo: Amarin TV Full story: THAI NEWSROOM 2024-01-25 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffersLos Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? 15 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dmaxdan Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 14 minutes ago, JeffersLos said: Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? Alternately the description of how he was found would suggest murder? 10 13 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeffersLos Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said: Alternately the description of how he was found would suggest murder? No. Stand on stool, setup the noose, secure hands behind back, then kickpush the stool away. Standard. 12 4 1 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffersLos Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, webfact said: Cable ties had been used to tie his hands behind his back 59 minutes ago, stoner said: he tied his own hands behind his back You seem to think that is somewhat difficult. 3 cable ties and about 3 seconds. What is your IQ? 8 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 Probably suicide, case closed... RTP don't like to their job and investigate properly as we have seen many times already.. 3 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheFishman1 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 So they found them with his hands, tied with wires behind his back a shirt over his head and it red chair kicked out. I would be checking for any Russians in the area. Those Russians are pretty tricky. They could’ve made it look like a suicide I still can’t figure out how one would actually tie their hands behind their back then put a rope or noose around their neck, and they kick the chair out, then again TIT 5 3 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AAArdvark Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, JeffersLos said: You seem to think that is somewhat difficult. 3 cable ties and about 3 seconds. What is your IQ? Probably MUCH higher than yours! 6 3 1 5 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, JeffersLos said: Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? Yeah, he lost his war already🙏 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said: So they found them with his hands, tied with wires behind his back a shirt over his head and it red chair kicked out. I would be checking for any Russians in the area. Those Russians are pretty tricky. They could’ve made it look like a suicide I still can’t figure out how one would actually tie their hands behind their back then put a rope or noose around their neck, and they kick the chair out, then again TIT Reverse the sequence - stand on red chair, put red t-shirt over head, secure noose around neck, secure hands at the back with cable tie (this could be a bit of a challenge but if the lead is long enough, it's still doable), kick away chair and snap! Not suggesting this is what happened, just saying it is possible. It could be a suicide, or murder made to look like a suicide. Edited January 25 by outsider 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pi Tao Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 RIP 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, JeffersLos said: Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? The link says he's lived in Thailand for many years, and was now suffering form depression.. maybe suicide. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, JeffersLos said: You seem to think that is somewhat difficult. 3 cable ties and about 3 seconds. What is your IQ? and why would one do that? a friend of mine, a farmer in Germany, hung himself in his barn, hands by his side. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jackbenimble Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 it'll be those pesky Burmese again - obviously! Cant turn your back for a minute and they're at it. ;-) 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gottfrid Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, JeffersLos said: Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? Yeah, off course. You chose: First he hanged himself, and after tied his hands behind his back. First he tied his hands behind his back, and after took a rope and hanged himself. Maybe, you realize, neither of the above really works. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwiken Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, JeffersLos said: Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? More like expat russkies 1 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, stoner said: and the award for dumbest comment on AN ever goes to the above. clearly he had nirvana in mind when he tied his own hands behind his back then proceeded to hang himself. of course to achieve nirvana one often walks out into a remote durian orchid....to become one with the universe and all. Ditto’s Well said 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie baby Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Very easy to place cable ties already looped over hands behind back, he would only need to feel for the ends to tighten. That said, even the Thai experts should be able to rule out suicide or murder. RIP young man. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinyara Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 RIP. Having wrestled with the visa choices in my late 40's as the ability to stay long-term became harder, I'm always a little surprised when you read of situations where young people have managed somehow to achieve that, in this unfortunate guy's case presumably for some time since his 20's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffersLos Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 47 minutes ago, soalbundy said: and why would one do that? a friend of mine, a farmer in Germany, hung himself in his barn, hands by his side. They often do it, so that they cannot change their mind. If they do it without bind their hands together behind their back before kicking the stool away, the natural instinct is of course to struggle to pull themselves up etc. 32 minutes ago, Gottfrid said: Yeah, off course. You chose: First he hanged himself, and after tied his hands behind his back. First he tied his hands behind his back, and after took a rope and hanged himself. Maybe, you realize, neither of the above really works. Cable ties. One around each wrist. then hands behind the back and slip another one through both and pull. It would probably take about 3 seconds for anybody to do it. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post harleyclarkey Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 For frigs sake - this tragic post with a young human being dead, finished has degenerated into a discussion regarding the friggin cable ties. Get a dam grip here. 6 2 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 5 minutes ago, harleyclarkey said: For frigs sake - this tragic post with a young human being dead, finished has degenerated into a discussion regarding the friggin cable ties. Get a dam grip here. Exactly some right <deleted>in weirdos on here. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SAFETY FIRST Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, stoner said: the award for dumbest comment on AN ever goes to the above Nope, I've seen many dumber comments. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chongalulu Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, JeffersLos said: No. Stand on stool, setup the noose, secure hands behind back, then kickpush the stool away. Standard. Could you give us a personal demonstration... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sallecc Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 5 hours ago, JeffersLos said: Couldn't stay, couldn't face going home to Ukraine, went to nirvana instead? Can't you read or comprehend? He was murdered, execution style. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baz69er Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 I've only ever heard someone hanging themselves with there hands tied in Thailand, why would you tie your hands behind your back before hanging? Or is it just in case you change your mind or do you automatically try to pull yourself up (grabbing rope) etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeffersLos Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 24 minutes ago, sallecc said: Can't you read or comprehend? He was murdered, execution style. Why are you lying? Why are you making up stories about the report? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bobthegimp Posted January 25 Popular Post Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, harleyclarkey said: For frigs sake - this tragic post with a young human being dead, finished has degenerated into a discussion regarding the friggin cable ties. Get a dam grip here. Yes, he's dead and his suffering is over. Did you know or care about him when he was alive? Why the sudden concern now, when it's of no use to anyone? Would you prefer 8 pages of idiots writing "RIP", as if the dead guy is reading these comments ? 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 "Additionally the autopsy result is awaited to determine the cause of death but it is still uncertain whether he was hanged or hanged himself, they said." (Quote from article.) Probably difficult to hang oneself with hands tied on the back with cable ties; even if one suffers from depression and is a long time habitant on the island. The are a number of Ukrainians living/staying on Samui, some have been here since before the Covid-pandemic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgealbert Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 RIP, sad end to a young life. Too little information in the article to make any judgement about suicide or not. Leave in to the forensic team to produce the evidence and reach a conclusion. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-me-zahau-knots-20180326-story.html https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1556-4029.14567 (Full report behind paywall, but abstract shows how cause conclusion may be determined). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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