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Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

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From the meeting in Washington Yesterday.

 

Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III

I underscored the high priority of securing the safe release of all hostages held captive by Hamas, including American citizens, and commended Minister Gallant for Israel's support for the comprehensive ceasefire and hostage proposal that it has offered, which President Biden outlined and the United Nations Security Council endorsed.

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https://x.com/SecDef/status/1805728714820329854

 

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  • thaibeachlovers
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    Let's never forget that israel came to be when Irgun and Stern gang terrorism drove the British out of Palestine, and a terrorist ( Begin ) even  became PM. Born of terrorism, and IMO still uses

  • Jeff the Chef
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    The following is a list of United Nations resolutions concerning Israel. As of 2023, the State of Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC).  

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    Founded in 1987, Hamas opposed the secular approach of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, rejected attempts to cede any part of Palestine, and embraced th

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Doctors Without Borders denies IDF accusation that slain employee was a terror operative

The medical charity Doctors Without Borders says it has no indication that one of its employees, who was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza, was a terror operative as claimed by the Israel Defense Forces.

Israel said yesterday that it killed Fadi al-Wadiya, who it said was a “significant operative” in the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror group. It said Al-Wadiya was involved in the group’s rocket arsenal, as well as in its electronics and chemistry know-how.

Doctors Without Borders, known by its French name Médecins Sans Frontières, says Israel has not provided evidence about its claim.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/doctors-without-borders-denies-idf-accusation-that-slain-employee-was-a-terror-operative/

 

 

Well this is awkward..................

 

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https://x.com/HenMazzig/status/1806047584135356536

 

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https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1806050662666686933

 

Maya Regev was shot, tortured, and kidnapped on October 7th. In her own words she says: "I am one of the lucky ones.”

120 hostages, including Americans, are still held and abused in Gaza.

 

Aaaah, oh well................lol

 

New EU sanctions list for Hamas financiers includes front companies based in Spain, Sudan

The European Union on Friday imposed asset freezes and visa bans on several firms and individuals accused of helping to finance Palestinian militant Islamist group Hamas, Brussels said.

The sanctions were the second round to be imposed by the EU on the Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad groups after their attack on Israel on October 7. 
Overall the bloc has so far blacklisted 12 individuals and three entities linked to the militants. Among the latest targets were three front companies used by key financier Hamza Abdelbasit to funnel funds to the group, including Spanish real estate firm Al Zawaya Group, and two others based in Sudan, an EU statement said.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240628-new-eu-sanctions-list-for-hamas-financiers-includes-front-companies-based-in-spain-sudan

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Two posts containing links contravening community standards has been removed: @Neeranam

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

 

Both Lebanon based websites with no named owner or Journalists asking readers to send in articles is not a credible source.

 

On 6/27/2024 at 5:47 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Doctors Without Borders denies IDF accusation that slain employee was a terror operative

The medical charity Doctors Without Borders says it has no indication that one of its employees, who was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza, was a terror operative as claimed by the Israel Defense Forces.

Israel said yesterday that it killed Fadi al-Wadiya, who it said was a “significant operative” in the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror group. It said Al-Wadiya was involved in the group’s rocket arsenal, as well as in its electronics and chemistry know-how.

Doctors Without Borders, known by its French name Médecins Sans Frontières, says Israel has not provided evidence about its claim.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/doctors-without-borders-denies-idf-accusation-that-slain-employee-was-a-terror-operative/

 

 

Well this is awkward..................

 

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https://x.com/HenMazzig/status/1806047584135356536

 

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https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1806050662666686933

 

 

On 6/23/2024 at 10:29 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Another weapon supply route smashed. The house of cards keeps crashing

 

Israeli drone strike kills Hamas ‘weapons supplier’ 25 miles inside Lebanon

The IDF said Ghatma was responsible for supplying weapons to Hamas and al Jama’a al-Islamiyya, an Egyptian terrorist group, in Lebanon and had been targeted for advancing attacks against Israel.
Conflict has been escalating along Israel’s northern border with Lebanon in recent months, stoking fears of a wider regional war.
In Gaza, the Israeli military said in a statement that “IDF fighter jets struck two Hamas military infrastructure sites in the area of Gaza City.”

https://archive.ph/wer3T

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/22/israel-drone-kills-hamas-terrorist-lebanon-bombs-gaza-city/

 

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On 6/24/2024 at 2:37 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Nice, more dismantling of Hamas

 

The IDF says it has raided and demolished a Hamas training complex in the Tel Sultan neighborhood of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.

The so-called Abu Said outpost, belonging to Hamas's Tel Sultan Battalion, was captured by the 401st Armored Brigade.

The IDF says that at the Hamas base, troops located the office of the commander of the Tel Sultan Battalion, Mahmoud Hamdan, as well as a weapons depot and several tunnel shafts.

The tunnels are being investigated and demolished, the army says.

Also in the outpost, the IDF says troops raided the office of Yasser Natat, a Hamas commander responsible for the Rafah Brigade's rocket fire on Israel and troops in Gaza.

The 401st Brigade raided a separate training site in the area, where weapons, additional tunnels, and intelligence materials were found, the military adds.

 

 

So much winning..and yet...

 

Israeli Generals, Low on Munitions, Want a Truce in Gaza

Israel’s top generals want to begin a cease-fire in Gaza even if it keeps Hamas in power for the time being, widening a rift between the military and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has opposed a truce that would allow Hamas to survive the war.

The generals think that a truce would be the best way of freeing the roughly 120 Israelis still held, both dead and alive, in Gaza, according to interviews with six current and former security officials.

Underequipped for further fighting after Israel’s longest war in decades, the generals also think their forces need time to recuperate in case a land war breaks out against Hezbollah, the Lebanese militia that has been locked in a low-level fight with Israel since October, multiple officials said.

https://archive.ph/sDZM8

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/world/middleeast/israel-military-gaza-cease-fire.html

 

The article goes on to note that the generals now recognize that the 2 goals of defeating Hamas and rescuing the hostages are mutually incompatible.

It also relays the generals' concern that given Netanyahu's refusal either to occupy Gaza or turn governance over to alternative Palestinian leadership, the war could drag on indefinitely and continue to sap Israel's military strength.

 

But so what? After all, the IDF keeps on sharing with us the progress it has been making and will continue to make...maybe forever?

 

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

 

 

So much winning..and yet...

 

Israeli Generals, Low on Munitions, Want a Truce in Gaza

Israel’s top generals want to begin a cease-fire in Gaza even if it keeps Hamas in power for the time being, widening a rift between the military and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has opposed a truce that would allow Hamas to survive the war.

The generals think that a truce would be the best way of freeing the roughly 120 Israelis still held, both dead and alive, in Gaza, according to interviews with six current and former security officials.

Underequipped for further fighting after Israel’s longest war in decades, the generals also think their forces need time to recuperate in case a land war breaks out against Hezbollah, the Lebanese militia that has been locked in a low-level fight with Israel since October, multiple officials said.

https://archive.ph/sDZM8

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/world/middleeast/israel-military-gaza-cease-fire.html

 

The article goes on to note that the generals now recognize that the 2 goals of defeating Hamas and rescuing the hostages are mutually incompatible.

It also relays the generals' concern that given Netanyahu's refusal either to occupy Gaza or turn governance over to alternative Palestinian leadership, the war could drag on indefinitely and continue to sap Israel's military strength.

 

But so what? After all, the IDF keeps on sharing with us the progress it has been making and will continue to make...maybe forever?

 

Biden forget to approve munition shipments? 

History erased

Since the beginning of the war, Unesco has identified damage to at least 50 cultural sites in its damage assessment. Some of those places have a history that goes back thousands of years.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-might-have-destroyed-gaza-heritage-sites-it-cannot-erase-memories

 

 

This is of course more war crimes 

 

Intentional attacks against historic monuments and buildings dedicated to religion are serious crimes under the Rome Statute – the founding treaty of the ICC, adopted by more than 120 states from around the world.  

 

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-prosecutor-international-criminal-court-fatou-bensouda-following-transfer-first#:~:text=see justice done.-,Intentional attacks against historic monuments and buildings dedicated to religion,states from around the world.

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

History erased

Since the beginning of the war, Unesco has identified damage to at least 50 cultural sites in its damage assessment. Some of those places have a history that goes back thousands of years.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israel-might-have-destroyed-gaza-heritage-sites-it-cannot-erase-memories

 

 

This is of course more war crimes 

 

Intentional attacks against historic monuments and buildings dedicated to religion are serious crimes under the Rome Statute – the founding treaty of the ICC, adopted by more than 120 states from around the world.  

 

https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/statement-prosecutor-international-criminal-court-fatou-bensouda-following-transfer-first#:~:text=see justice done.-,Intentional attacks against historic monuments and buildings dedicated to religion,states from around the world.

Not if they were being used by Hamas terrorists. 👌

Pockets of dissent, hardly surprising knowing they've been used by Hamas leadership as their own "necessary sacrifices"

 

Hamas faces growing public dissent as Gaza war erodes support

The man in the video is beside himself, a mask of anguish radiating through his bloodied face. “I am an academic doctor,” he says, “I had a good life, but we have a filthy [Hamas] leadership. They got used to our bloodshed, may God curse them! They are scum!” The video - unthinkable before the Gaza war - was filmed outside a hospital, inundated with hundreds of Palestinian casualties after an Israeli operation to free hostages from central Gaza last month.
Warning: Graphic image

Seconds before the video ends, he turns to the crowd.
“I’m one of you,” he says, “but you are a cowardly people. We could have avoided this attack!”
The video went viral. And it’s not the only one.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0vewvp14zdo

The ongoing genocide, destruction of Gaza, starvation of Palestinians and devastation of livelihoods, combined with Israel’s strategic and security considerations, point towards a reoccupation of the Gaza Strip with the goal of displacing Palestinians from their land,” Ihab Maharmeh of the Doha Institute said.

https://aje.io/8ju5km

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

The ongoing genocide, destruction of Gaza, starvation of Palestinians and devastation of livelihoods, combined with Israel’s strategic and security considerations, point towards a reoccupation of the Gaza Strip with the goal of displacing Palestinians from their land,” Ihab Maharmeh of the Doha Institute said.

https://aje.io/8ju5km

 

   That is a great photo 

 

 

An Israeli tank manoeuvres near the Israel-Gaza border

 

If you are interested in helping , or care about the dying children in Gaza, check out Save the Children. 

 

Families in Gaza are being forced from their homes further and further south, into smaller and smaller areas, with no guarantee of safety and no basic services like food, water or medical supplies.

Children are terrified. Their worlds have been destroyed and time is running out. 

 

https://www.savethechildren.net/nowhere-is-safe-for-children-in-gaza

 

 

 

15 hours ago, Neeranam said:

The ongoing genocide, destruction of Gaza, starvation of Palestinians and devastation of livelihoods, combined with Israel’s strategic and security considerations, point towards a reoccupation of the Gaza Strip with the goal of displacing Palestinians from their land,” Ihab Maharmeh of the Doha Institute said.

https://aje.io/8ju5km

Ihab Maharmeh who also happens to be a policy maker at the Palestinian Network in Qatar is quoted by Al Jazeera who has employed Hamas terrorists, who is funded by Qatar who also funds Hamas. Excellent authoritative piece there!

 

In the meantime Hamas are infighting.

 

Senior Hamas official criticises terror group for not building shelters to protect Gazans
A senior Hamas government employee in Gaza has revealed his fury towards Hamas for putting civilian lives in Gaza in peril with its attack on southern Israel on October 7 and for “neglecting” the home front – including the lack of rocket shelters.
The Hamas official, who spoke to the BBC on the condition of anonymity, said: “I know from my work with the Hamas government that it prepared well for the attack militarily, but it neglected the home front.”
The source criticised the terror group for not building any shelters. Although Hamas constructed a vast network of tunnels under the Gaza Strip, larger in scale than the London Underground network, the group has not built a single shelter for civilians in Gaza.

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/senior-hamas-official-criticises-terror-group-for-not-building-shelters-to-protect-gazans-izha3h4k

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On 7/3/2024 at 2:45 AM, coolcarer said:
#bringthemhome Taken from his wife and child
 

Omri Miran (46) has been held hostage in Gaza for 268 days. He was taken from his family right before their eyes. His daughters Roni and Alma need their father. 

 

How many Palestinian hostages have been taken under the guise of an arrest being an "Administration Detainee" for decades. Held, without charge, and no legal recourse to be absolved. Free all the innocents on both sides.  

27 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

How many Palestinian hostages have been taken under the guise of an arrest being an "Administration Detainee" for decades. Held, without charge, and no legal recourse to be absolved. Free all the innocents on both sides.  

Nah, only Hamas apologists come out with false comparisons

 

 

31 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

How many Palestinian hostages have been taken under the guise of an arrest being an "Administration Detainee" for decades. Held, without charge, and no legal recourse to be absolved. Free all the innocents on both sides.  

 

   It has been established that the Palestinians held in Israeli jails are prisoners and NOT hostages and posts stating otherwise are usually removed 

1 hour ago, coolcarer said:

Nah, only Hamas apologists come out with false comparisons

 

 

Correct, neither, any Israeli or Palestinian civilian, regardless of age or gender, be subjected to the atrocities that have been forced upon themselves from doctrine.

8 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Prisoners under "Administrative Detention" without any charges laid or an avenue of recourse for legal remedy = HOSTAGE. Play further on semantics as you will.😄

 

 

   You just made up a definition of what the word hostage means 🙂

Look in  a dictionary for what the word really means 🙂

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6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You just made up a definition of what the word hostage means 🙂

Look in  a dictionary for what the word really means 🙂

You need to look outside of a biased view of "prisoners" being held upon "Administrative Detention". Maybe before you give an "off the cuff" comment. Research and then expand personal viewpoint.

 

2 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

You need to look outside of a biased view of "prisoners" being held upon "Administrative Detention". Maybe before you give an "off the cuff" comment. Research and then expand personal viewpoint.

 

 

   Do I really need to tell you what a hostage is ?

Its a person being held by a group/another person , held captive and being released on the condition that the captors receive something in return .

   Demands being made for a hostages release

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