Move Forward, don’t forget the police

[snoop1130]

 

In a Facebook post listing topics that the Srettha government must be grilled for, the biggest political party did not mention arguably the biggest problem of the hour _ the police crisis.

 

The Move Forward Party asks the Thai public to monitor this week the apparent government failures it plans to criticise in detail during a parliamentary debate. According to the post, they include uncertainties and so-far no-show of the digital wallet programme, the “sporadic” increases of labour pay, the continuous rise of electricity fees, the continued military conscription of your children and grandchildren, and the continued imprisonment of “some” political prisoners.

 

Full story: Thai PBS 2024-04-01

 

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[hotchilli]

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

In a Facebook post listing topics that the Srettha government must be grilled for, the biggest political party did not mention arguably the biggest problem of the hour _ the police crisis.

Prayut said he would stop corruption, under his term it probably increased, now Srettha does nothing while blatant corruption is rife in almost every aspect of Thai life.

The RTP one of the entities are disgusting parasites.

[bamnutsak]

No one is going to tackle the police corruption issue.

 

During the recent election, politicians and parties talked about all sorts of reforms: marriage, education, alcohol, military, and even the Monarchy.

 

Did you hear a peep about "Police Reforms"? Uhm, No.

 

That's because, for all their failings, the RTP is the glue that keeps Thai civil society reasonably under control, and the oil that keeps the machine rolling.

 

Corruption is just part of the mechanisms that are tolerated.

 

Plus there's the dosh.

[lordgrinz]

It's not just police corruption, its a police force in name only, they need to actually start working for a living. When is the RTP going to actually make Thai society safer? You know like enforcing road rules/laws, and making it safer for pedestrians to travel (i.e. Sidewalks and Zebra Crossings). I have been here for 8 years, and I have never seen a single police officer doing any work, let alone meaningful work, they seem to do nothing all day. They have the same number of police officers for 100,000 of the population that the USA has, but none of them are actually doing anything all day. I assume they spend their entire day working on building long-lasting corruption connections, and stuffing their pockets with the ill-gotten gains. Disband the RTP, start over, and don't hire any previous officers from the ranks of the RTP. After that investigate all previous officers in high-ranking positions for unusual wealth, then prosecute and jail them for life.

[mikebell]

1 hour ago, lordgrinz said:

I have been here for 8 years, and I have never seen a single police officer doing any work, let alone meaningful work, they seem to do nothing all day.

Here here.  And I've been here 20 years and seen no evidence of police 'work'.  They've installed CCTV cameras all over but the police are too lazy to look at them unless the case hits Facebook.

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

No one is going to tackle the police corruption issue.

 

During the recent election, politicians and parties talked about all sorts of reforms: marriage, education, alcohol, military, and even the Monarchy.

 

Did you hear a peep about "Police Reforms"? Uhm, No.

 

That's because, for all their failings, the RTP is the glue that keeps Thai civil society reasonably under control, and the oil that keeps the machine rolling.

 

Corruption is just part of the mechanisms that are tolerated.

 

Plus there's the dosh.

 

That and Thai people really like breaking the law.  If the "corruption" within the Thai Police force went away (and we have to assume that means that they actually enforced the law), Thai society might not be able to function.  Imagine if they enforced all traffic laws in the same way it is done in the West.  Most of the population would be off the road in a couple of weeks.

[lordgrinz]

1 hour ago, BangkokReady said:

 

That and Thai people really like breaking the law.  If the "corruption" within the Thai Police force went away (and we have to assume that means that they actually enforced the law), Thai society might not be able to function.  Imagine if they enforced all traffic laws in the same way it is done in the West.  Most of the population would be off the road in a couple of weeks.

 

One can only hope and pray!

[spidermike007]

There's no doubt that the RTP is highly corrupt, there seems to have been an agreement between the agency and the government from the time it was formed back in the 1930s. We will not pay you a living wage, but you have a franchise and you're free to do with it whatever you will, to your heart's content, and to the very edges of your creative mind and abilities, and you will rarely if ever be held to account for it.

 

So asking anyone to attempt to rid the RTP of corruption I believe is a a big ask.

 

What strikes me is that despite the lack of competent policing and despite the corruption within the RTP, Thailand is a relatively law-abiding society, and there seem to be a relatively small percentage of super freaks who commit crazy acts and break the law on a consistent basis.

 

Of course I am excluding traffic from this equation as the vast majority here seem to be lawbreakers in that regard. But since there is little in regard to a deterrent, you put a kind and reasonable Thai person behind a wheel and anything goes. 

[Srikcir]

RTP needs to be decentralized from a national to a stratified organization (ie., nation, province, district) whereby each level of leadership is elected and directly accountable to its representative public. Imagine the whole of police organizations in the US were under the US Deparment of Justice but with the DOJ appointed by an unelected presidential committee -  chaos, corruption.