sandyf Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 5 hours ago, webfact said: In the past four days, 3,890 people have been put on probation, about 96% of them were found guilty of drunk driving. Fairly obvious they should ban the sale of alcohol leading up to and during Songkran. Everyone wants the numbers down, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 2 hours ago, neeray said: I realize the death and injured numbers are always high in Thailand but seeing the numbers in print at this time each year portrays Thailand as a vehicular slaughterhouse. Extend the festivities, extend the death toll. Less than the total yearly average. Which is typical during Songkran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngster30uk Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 36 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: I dont get your point, govt claims 20k year headline says 160 /4 days =40 day my point 20k a year =54 day, the figures are crap whichever way you take them, songkran is safer, The govt says 20k year the govt says 46 in four days.................i bet the 4 days death rate is way more accurate than the yearly, i bet the yearly is way UNDER reported. Dead going to hospital in hospital doesnt count For years the figures reported during songkran are actually lower than the average day Dead going to hospital doesnt count? I hear that may times, Can you substantiate it? I am not necessarily disputing it, but I have never seen it be more than hearsay Yes, you dont get my point, you are agreeing with me, despite the fact you appear to be arguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 6 hours ago, webfact said: Another 38 people were killed and 311 others were injured in 317 road accidents on Sunday, bringing total death toll for four days since April 11th to 162. Altogether 1,279 people were injured. Bangkok and Roi-et recorded the most fatalities, at 10 each, while Nakhon Si Thammarat has the most road accidents and injuries, at 50 and 54 respectively. Speeding accounted for 37.22% of road accidents yesterday, drunk driving, 25.87% and poor visibility, 15.46%. Motorcycles were involved in 87.51% of the road accidents. Meanwhile, 2,136 traffic violators were put on probation by the courts yesterday, most of them found guilty of drunk driving. In the past four days, 3,890 people have been put on probation, about 96% of them were found guilty of drunk driving. Bangkok has the most cases of drunk driving, at 399, followed by 227 cases in Nonthaburi and 214 cases in Samut Prakan. Source: Thai PBS 2024-04-16 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe Well, good chances to hit the 300 number this year. 3 days to count left. Good luck🥴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 56 minutes ago, youngster30uk said: I have heard that many times, but never seen any proof of it, do you have any proof, or is it just hearsay? , but agree the numbers are likely to be higher than stated. If you base it on the WHO numbers, this week is lower than average, If you base it on the Thai numbers, this week is exactly average, despite the Government saying they are significantly higher, that dont add up either way I heard it from the horses mouth some years ago and saw a direct reference to it in the public domain in the past 12 months or so. It will be out there some-where. Either way, take it easy on the roads .... we don't want to be part of the official or unofficial stats ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngster30uk Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said: I heard it from the horses mouth some years ago and saw a direct reference to it in the public domain in the past 12 months or so. It will be out there some-where. Either way, take it easy on the roads .... we don't want to be part of the official or unofficial stats ...... The horses mouth? who exactly would that be in this instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 162 people killed, 1,279 injured within 4 days? No big deal. Cannabis is the national catastrophe: 162 people with anxiety and 1,279 with reduced motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john donson Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 aren't those numbers, daily statistics as average ? police enforcement, not if no money is involved... a little bribe and continue driving drunk or stupid, or both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Here we go with yet another Groundhog Day of comments.. 😴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Quote Meanwhile, 2,136 traffic violators were put on probation by the courts yesterday, most of them found guilty of drunk driving. Presumably these were all old charges pending in the legal queue? What does 'probation' in these cases actually mean? Is it an effective deterrent? 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 5 hours ago, youngster30uk said: That is my point, if we use the 20k number, then they really dont add up but it DOES add up that SONGKRAN has a lower death rate than a normal day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 4 hours ago, youngster30uk said: Dead going to hospital doesnt count? I hear that may times, Can you substantiate it? I am not necessarily disputing it, but I have never seen it be more than hearsay Yes, you dont get my point, you are agreeing with me, despite the fact you appear to be arguing replied above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngster30uk Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 20 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said: but it DOES add up that SONGKRAN has a lower death rate than a normal day. But the government claim that over songkran the numbers are higher, so it doesnt add up. And it doesnt add up that it is lower over songkran because it is not lower, it meets the yearly average, that means the same not lower either way, it does not add up! Your maths aint mathing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris333 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Amsterdam opts for 30 kilometers per hour in the city A city with safer traffic The effects of a lower speed on traffic safety: Collisions have less impact; Motorists have a wider field of view; There is more time to react; The braking distance is reduced considerably. Source: https://bikecity.amsterdam.nl/en/amsterdam-opts-for-30-kilometers-per-hour-in-the-city/ In highways we can decrease speed limit from 130km to 80km in order to reduse car emissions and safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 14 hours ago, hotchilli said: Sunday was a holiday with people at their destinations. Monday and Tuesday people will be on the move again. I think you mean daily average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 3 minutes ago, Paris333 said: Amsterdam opts for 30 kilometers per hour in the city A city with safer traffic The effects of a lower speed on traffic safety: Collisions have less impact; Motorists have a wider field of view; There is more time to react; The braking distance is reduced considerably. Source: https://bikecity.amsterdam.nl/en/amsterdam-opts-for-30-kilometers-per-hour-in-the-city/ In highways we can decrease speed limit from 130km to 80km in order to reduse car emissions and safety. This does not solve the tailgating issue that happens in thailand if one doesn’t understand the concept of safe breaking distance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 18 hours ago, webfact said: In the past four days, 3,890 people have been put on probation, about 96% of them were found guilty of drunk driving. If you get caught drunk driving, you should be banned from driving, heavily fined or jailed. None of this probation bs, there needs to be serious fines and jail time. Time they got serious about it, but yeah, I know TIT Edited April 16 by PremiumLane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 14 hours ago, youngster30uk said: But the government claim that over songkran the numbers are higher, so it doesnt add up. And it doesnt add up that it is lower over songkran because it is not lower, it meets the yearly average, that means the same not lower either way, it does not add up! Your maths aint mathing id say yours isnt adding up and using their figures which we both know are false but we have to use you cant mix an match theyre saying 40 a day during songkran which is the gist of this argument and then yearly 20k proving by their figures songkran is safer regardless if they say its more dangerous they give out the numbers proving it isnt, they deal with a populace who havent a clue in many cases. their figures say 40 a day in songkran and 54 out of songkran making songkran safer. and the latest figures back that up, now up to 200 over 5 days and its been like that every year since forever, go back to last year and check and before excepting covid. nothing more to add. Edited April 16 by Rampant Rabbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 6 hours ago, cardinalblue said: This does not solve the tailgating issue that happens in thailand if one doesn’t understand the concept of safe breaking distance correct its the old BS of speed is the be all and end all when really its just a money making govt scam. You can drive perfectly safety at any speed if distance is kept, except in a dense area where with the amount of traffic these days is impossible anyway, speed for conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 6 hours ago, Paris333 said: Amsterdam opts for 30 kilometers per hour in the city A city with safer traffic The effects of a lower speed on traffic safety: Collisions have less impact; Motorists have a wider field of view; There is more time to react; The braking distance is reduced considerably. Source: https://bikecity.amsterdam.nl/en/amsterdam-opts-for-30-kilometers-per-hour-in-the-city/ In highways we can decrease speed limit from 130km to 80km in order to reduse car emissions and safety. more bs using "emissions" global warming as the go to for any reason to prohibit.............. ok so we go all electric we can speed up right? i mean ....no emissions, no wait it will then be particulate matter from tyres right!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 16 hours ago, youngster30uk said: But the government claim that over songkran the numbers are higher, so it doesnt add up. And it doesnt add up that it is lower over songkran because it is not lower, it meets the yearly average, that means the same not lower either way, it does not add up! Your maths aint mathing I've never heard them claim that's it's higher, but they always dub it the "7 deadly days" to make the people think about driving safer. Labling some days as deadly isn't the same as saying they're more dangerous than other days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 9 hours ago, cardinalblue said: I think you mean daily average I know what I mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobydog Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 4/16/2024 at 11:12 AM, Ralf001 said: Why should they give a breakdown ? Really? Headlines etc etc when farangs do wrong but not much about what the Thai contribution is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bobydog said: Really? Headlines etc etc when farangs do wrong but not much about what the Thai contribution is... Have there been any headlines etc etc since Friday about foreigners at fault in regards to road deaths ? Edited April 17 by Ralf001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 But none in Phuket because the BiB are so effective there !!!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twizzian Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 In between all the traffic jams, I could clearly see all types of vehicles going even faster during the four days. With all the stats on accidents here especially at Songkran nothing phases them. Gotta get to that bottle of Hongtong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 and the winners? mechanics morticians alcohol companies yaba dealers pot shops chinese water gun sellers crappy plastic phone pouches stupid floral shirts thais dont seem to keep from last year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 11 hours ago, twizzian said: In between all the traffic jams, I could clearly see all types of vehicles going even faster during the four days. With all the stats on accidents here especially at Songkran nothing phases them. Gotta get to that bottle of Hongtong ive always been a sangsom connessior and will mow down a granny to get it.....ahh sangsom..the gift and the curse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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