Popular Post snoop1130 Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 The Vibharam Hospital, a private healthcare facility in Bangkok, was fined 100,000 baht for not treating a critically injured patient who later succumbed to his injuries. The hospital previously rejected another fatally injured individual. The incident states that the Emergency Medicine Committee (EMC) imposed the penalty on the hospital for failing to provide treatment to a policeman. The police officer was hit by a vehicle not far from the hospital, while on duty. Evidence shared with the EMC, including witness accounts, showed that the hospital twice declined the Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) unit's plea to treat the officer. Consequently, the injured officer had to be taken to another hospital where he was eventually declared dead. The EMC stated that the hospital was obliged to provide treatment to the injured person given the critical nature of the emergency. The committee members recognized this incident as the second instance where the hospital declined to treat a severely injured patient. In a similar case from December last year, the hospital refused to treat a Taiwanese tourist who was injured by a car while crossing the road. The tourist had to be taken to a different hospital where he later died from his injuries. Photo: Creative Commons License via Google -- 2024-04-26 Get our Daily Newsletter - Click HERE to subscribe 1 6 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheFatOne Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 Barbaric practices in Thailand are on the decline it seems. Slowly but surely (let's face it 100,000THB fine is pretty much nothing). Overall, good news 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 Sounds like a terrible place the management should all be terminated. 3 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: was fined 100,000 baht for not treating a critically injured patient Cost of treatment: maybe 200k or more Fine: 100k No surprise that they chose the cheaper option. After all, a private hospital is a business. To solve this, I suggest the following: a) Make sure any hospital would be compensated for their services. b) Fine them at least 10 times as much as the service cost might be. Problem solved. 1 1 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 300sd Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 10 million is more like it. Then perhaps it won't happen again. 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celsius Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I doubt doctors anywhere would work for free regardless of the professional ethics 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dingdongrb Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 How about fining those driving that do not give the right of way to emergency vehicles? Maybe if an injured person could get to a hospital in a reasonable amount of time they would have a better chance for survival. 2 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dddave Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 Many of Thailand's private Hospitals are owned by individual Doctors or the family of the founding Doctor and I suspect many are micromanaged by the owners who can be heavy handed, browbeating any staff that admit a patient incapable of paying. I know a nurse who worked in such a hospital in Yaowarat The staff were constantly yelled at and threatened with dismissal for any act the owners did not approve of. I would not be surprised if that is the case in this instance. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 It happens in other hospitals, they died so that hospital doesn't want dead bodies on it's record 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I wonder what the outcome would have been if it had not been a cop, but just a poor person. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Island Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 This has happened many times before. Can't pay before treatment, your left on a gurney in the parking lot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlcwaterfall Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, bkk6060 said: Sounds like a terrible place the management should all be terminated. "Terminated" With one of their own needles perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Problem is probably more to do with death statistics and making the hospital look bad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: The EMC stated that the hospital was obliged to provide treatment to the injured person given the critical nature of the emergency. The committee members recognized this incident as the second instance where the hospital declined to treat a severely injured patient. In a similar case from December last year, the hospital refused to treat a Taiwanese tourist who was injured by a car while crossing the road. The tourist had to be taken to a different hospital where he later died from his injuries It's not about care in Thailand... It's all about money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 13 hours ago, Celsius said: I doubt doctors anywhere would work for free regardless of the professional ethics If they're clocked in they're getting their salary, patients or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuang Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 100K is peanuts to the hospital... No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1duckyboy Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 One would hope the fine for a second offense in five months would be large enough to discourage such shameful actions. !00k will do nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 16 hours ago, bkk6060 said: Sounds like a terrible place the management should all be terminated jailed. There. Fixed it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aussienam Posted April 27 Popular Post Share Posted April 27 100,000 Baht for a hospital is a pittance. In a civilized country there would be criminal prosecution for negligence, huge civil litigation and medical registration authorities would possibly be able to make steps to shut down the hospital, if the private operator is liable and complicit. These are death hospitals. Scary. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexPattaya Posted April 27 Popular Post Share Posted April 27 Thai Law mandate All Hospitals in Thailand to provide Emergency Care irrespective of the Patient’s ability to pay! The Family of the deceased Police Office should definitely file a Big Lawsuit against this Hospital!! 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 1 hour ago, AlexPattaya said: Thai Law mandate All Hospitals in Thailand to provide Emergency Care irrespective of the Patient’s ability to pay! The Family of the deceased Police Office should definitely file a Big Lawsuit against this Hospital!! Agree. Private hospitals shouldn't be able to 'cherry pick' where Emergency Treatment is required and they are the nearest facility. I don't know what they are reimbursed by the Thai Government (if indeed they are) for providing Emergency Treatment? Could be they get the same as a Government Hospital which would explain their reluctance! Additionally, Private (and Government) Hospitals face problems if the patient survives and requires further treatment. Without money in their bank account beforehand (or consent from any insurer if they choose to accept that) they are then placed in the position of having to discontinue treatment. I've read that a Private Hospital would, at that point, seek to transfer the patient to a Government Hospital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 So much for the Hippocratic oath…. Hypocritical oath at this hospital perhaps… 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 The medical industry is just that, an industry. It is not there for the patient but only to make money. Just look at the medical services around the world. Greed, greed and more greed. They supposedly took the Hippocratic oath, or it is assumed they did, but obviously forgot about it as soon as they saw the money. The family of the patient should sue the hospital for millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 On 4/26/2024 at 4:24 PM, bkk6060 said: Sounds like a terrible place the management should all be terminated. It should be shut down for a year, that would make them learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john donson Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 100k, wth, that is what they overcharge any farang on the normal bill nothing will ever change here... miracle the hospital was finally named... or is a 100 million defamation lawsuit coming now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 On 4/26/2024 at 5:15 PM, TheFatOne said: Barbaric practices in Thailand are on the decline it seems. Slowly but surely (let's face it 100,000THB fine is pretty much nothing). Overall, good news Given that the hospital name was made public, it is a serious loss of face in the medical industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 7 hours ago, Photoguy21 said: The medical industry is just that, an industry. It is not there for the patient but only to make money. Just look at the medical services around the world. Greed, greed and more greed. They supposedly took the Hippocratic oath, or it is assumed they did, but obviously forgot about it as soon as they saw the money. The family of the patient should sue the hospital for millions. It is sad that the medical hospital industry were controlled by private corporations whose motto is to make money above all else. Same all over the world . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 11 hours ago, Ctkong said: It is sad that the medical hospital industry were controlled by private corporations whose motto is to make money above all else. Same all over the world . It is i agree. They are a business not a health care facility which is their product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE88 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Closing the hospital for 6 months would have been the best punishment so that other private hospitals do not follow the same path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE88 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 28 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said: It is i agree. They are a business not a health care facility which is their product. This only happens due to corruption and the letting various governments do, a public service must function as a public service not as a bank. If the hospital does not accept this task it must be closed. The case of this policeman certainly had insurance and therefore his refusal was unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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