Yagoda Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, In Full Agreement said: Nope. The trial is about the fraud Trump committed when he falsely reported the payment to Daniels on his business records. No the trial is for the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump personaly made or directed a false business entry in furtherance of another crime, which has never been named. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 5 hours ago, Hanaguma said: There is something about the prosecution star witness admitting UNDER OATH that he is a thief and stole tens of thousands of dollars from his boss that makes this whole thing seem farcical. That was good! 😅 So it seems he's telling the truth in this trial! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 5 minutes ago, candide said: That was good! 😅 So it seems he's telling the truth in this trial! At this point, who knows? "I was lying then , but not now" is a hard sell at the best of times. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: At this point, who knows? "I was lying then , but not now" is a hard sell at the best of times. You do understand he is out of jail on probation? If he can be proved to be lying in his testamony then he returns to jail. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) Michael Cohen might have taken ‘center stage’. But it Robert Castello swooped in just before the final curtain to steal the show: ’All the best people’. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hush-money-judge-rips-into-witness-robert-costello-2024-5 Edited May 21 by Chomper Higgot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 42 minutes ago, Yagoda said: So then you agree his trials are a farce. You need to watch CNN more My personal opinion is that Appeals courts generally offer relief, because if they didn't, the judges would be out of a job, due to lack of customers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 28 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: At this point, who knows? "I was lying then , but not now" is a hard sell at the best of times. You do know that lots of criminal associates flip on their bosses, it happens all the time. Your posts indicate that this trial thing is all new to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 39 minutes ago, Yagoda said: No the trial is for the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump personaly made or directed a false business entry in furtherance of another crime, which has never been named. Michael Cohen pled guilty for the underlying crime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Wow! The Trump people have placed an ad here in this topic! Okay, Trump fans, how much are you going to give this time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: My personal opinion is that Appeals courts generally offer relief, because if they didn't, the judges would be out of a job, due to lack of customers. Your personal opinion is not an accord with hundreds of years of tradition and the way the law works. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yagoda Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Michael Cohen pled guilty for the underlying crime. After all these pages you still can't tell me what it is. If you're going to play it's an obscure federal crime game, you better figure out the jurisdictional issues. But why bother it's all over but the shouting. Let's see what the jury says because everybody with half a brain knows what an appeals court would say 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjinchiangrai Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Tick, tick, tick, tick....... Do they make orange jump suits in triple extra fat? They may need to let it out a little for his special underwear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 10 minutes ago, Yagoda said: After all these pages you still can't tell me what it is. If you're going to play it's an obscure federal crime game, you better figure out the jurisdictional issues. But why bother it's all over but the shouting. Let's see what the jury says because everybody with half a brain knows what an appeals court would say Campaign finance violation. You have asked the same question over and over, despite my answering the question. Groundhog Day trolling. It doesn't work. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted May 21 Popular Post Share Posted May 21 Kind of amusing that a trial of the most dishonest man in history could be derailed by a man who stole a relatively small amount of money and lied about it. Something ironic about that. Dishonest men using any reason to have their man avoid facing reality and punishment. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 4 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said: James Comey has a worthy opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9QEUedVhRw What was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 4 hours ago, In Full Agreement said: Nope. The trial is about the fraud Trump committed when he falsely reported the payment to Daniels on his business records. Personal records, not business records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, cjinchiangrai said: Tick, tick, tick, tick....... Do they make orange jump suits in triple extra fat? They may need to let it out a little for his special underwear. For Alvin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Danderman123 said: Campaign finance violation. You have asked the same question over and over, despite my answering the question. Groundhog Day trolling. It doesn't work. Campaign finance violation is not an answer. Still Can't point to a statute. You lose. Even if you get a conviction it's going to be reversed on appeal. I just goes to show how low you're lot can sink. SHOW Trial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Campaign finance violation is not an answer. Still Can't point to a statute. You lose. Even if you get a conviction it's going to be reversed on appeal. I just goes to show how low you're lot can sink. SHOW Trial And Cohen was paid with personal, not business funds, and the payment was recorded in personal, not business books. Show trial with made-up crimes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: What was it? High probability of conviction, low probability of a hung jury, zero probability of an acquittal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 56 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: High probability of conviction, low probability of a hung jury, zero probability of an acquittal. Yeah, he knows the fix is in. Remember when he fixed it for Hillary? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 2 hours ago, Yagoda said: Campaign finance violation is not an answer. Still Can't point to a statute. You lose. Even if you get a conviction it's going to be reversed on appeal. I just goes to show how low you're lot can sink. SHOW Trial The underlying crime was a campaign finance violation. Cue: Groundhog Day trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 21 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: The underlying crime was a campaign finance violation. Cue: Groundhog Day trolling. Cue: Continued inability to answer. Falsus in uno 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 7 minutes ago, Yagoda said: Cue: Continued inability to answer. Falsus in uno The underlying crime was a campaign finance violation that Michael Cohen pled guilty to. Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Eight Counts, Including Criminal Tax Evasion And Campaign Finance Violations I welcome you to go troll the Department of Justice and tell them they are lying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Just now, Danderman123 said: The underlying crime was a campaign finance violation that Michael Cohen pled guilty to. Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty In Manhattan Federal Court To Eight Counts, Including Criminal Tax Evasion And Campaign Finance Violations I welcome you to go troll the Department of Justice and tell them they are lying. They know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Just now, Yellowtail said: They know. @Yagoda doesn't seem to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 28 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: @Yagoda doesn't seem to know. He knows. I think even you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: @Yagoda doesn't seem to know. Anything that makes sense to anyone else! Edited May 21 by scottiejohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Just now, scottiejohn said: Anything! That's pretty rich coming from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Okay, I hope the "underlying crime" trolling is over. The Defense will give it up tomorrow without having disproven any significant facts that Prosecution witnesses have alleged. That's usually bad for the Defense. Truly, the best hope for Trump is that he got info on one of the jurors and has either threatened or bribed them to hold out for acquittal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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