Popular Post Jingthing Posted May 13 Popular Post Share Posted May 13 Zero.votes from the public. Zero. Let that sink in. Objectively the song wasn't that bad. It got votes from the jury. So why the Zero? Obviously can't call Eurovision fans homophobic but was the homoerotic staging just too much? Not camp. More like soft porn? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted May 13 Popular Post Share Posted May 13 And you lost against this one. 555 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 (edited) 9 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: And you lost against this one. 555 Yes the first non binary winner but that was not like a porn fantasy. Some say it was because Olly can't sing probably a factor but i think the problem was the sexualization. I predicted Switzerland would win.but I liked Croatia's entry better. Edited May 13 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Henryford Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 It was disgusting. Ashamed to be a Brit when this represents us. 2 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 (edited) Obviously the Eurovision audience is very LGBT friendly. But there is a time and a place for pornographic fever dreams. Olly tested the limits of what the Eurovision audience wants to see in a song contest. He's an artist and good artists take risks but that doesn't mean they are guaranteed to pay off. Zero votes from the public. It could be worse. His brilliant acting career will go on. At least he's not a politician who murdered her puppy in a gravel.pit. Edited May 14 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 (edited) Another question on this.... Could a parent comfortably watch the Eurovision Song Contest along with their children as family viewing ? This song alone highlights most definitely not IMO... Not just a step too far, but in targeting to a somewhat kitsch and 'acronym' friendly audience, this was a full on assault against decency. If it were a 'male & female - hetero image' the song was purveying in the same over sexualised crude manner it would be equally as crude, distasteful and offensive... the same could be argued of Madonna, Sam-Smith etc - but they don't target family audiences. The line between 'art and self indulgent gratification' was overstepped for what is supposed to be 'family friendly TV.... Catchy song, completely unnecessary performance. The British judges were well out of touch for even accepting this - shows how frightened the woke are of having an balanced opinion. Edited May 14 by richard_smith237 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Gay or not its <deleted>e -- poor concept, poor execution, poor performance Then there is the fact that he keeps hitting flat notes throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Is there such a thing as too gay anymore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: a full on assault against decency. id say it was just plain <deleted>e. decency has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 I thought the performance was good actually but more suited to a nightclub. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theblether Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 I watched this with my 10.year old granddaughter and it was ridiculous viewing for a so-called family show. The European public have spoken. Too far, too much. That's enough. I genuinely believe too many young gay people won't be happy until they alienate the public. Zero points. Zero self-awareness. Ridiculous. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 Just now, Jingthing said: I thought the performance was good actually but more suited to a nightclub. Or a grade school in the US 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theblether Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I thought the performance was good actually but more suited to a nightclub. That's the complaint. Keep.it away from the one family show that all Europe watches. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 Just now, theblether said: That's the complaint. Keep.it away from the one family show that all Europe watches. The family has to be destroyed to continue the leftward march. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 30 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Or a grade school in the US No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 27 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: The family has to be destroyed to continue the leftward march. Yeah only right wingers have families. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 10 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: And you lost against this one. 555 Where's the egg? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 In happier times. Olly is a talented sweetheart but he made an artistic mistake with the staging. If you haven't already watch him in Its a Sin. I seriously doubt with the zero votes result that any other act will try similar in future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Eurovision has always had a global family audience. Over the last couple of decades the LGBT community have really embraced it and almost claimed it as their own. Which is understandable in a way - I mean it's always been very camp. Unfortunately it's gone too far now, and it's almost become a giant Pride parade. The organisers need to understand that their core audience don't want to see gay fetish acts on stage. As for the zero points from the British public, I did hear the voting system is a bit like 'first past the post' as in Olly might have received a lot of votes but they didn't translate into points. A bit like UKIP getting 4 million votes but no seats in the 2015 UK election. But I suspect it's mainly because Olly's performance was essentially gay sex show, plus he can't sing live. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: Another question on this.... Could a parent comfortably watch the Eurovision Song Contest along with their children as family viewing ? This song alone highlights most definitely not IMO... Not just a step too far, but in targeting to a somewhat kitsch and 'acronym' friendly audience, this was a full on assault against decency. If it were a 'male & female - hetero image' the song was purveying in the same over sexualised crude manner it would be equally as crude, distasteful and offensive... the same could be argued of Madonna, Sam-Smith etc - but they don't target family audiences. The line between 'art and self indulgent gratification' was overstepped for what is supposed to be 'family friendly TV.... Catchy song, completely unnecessary performance. The British judges were well out of touch for even accepting this - shows how frightened the woke are of having an balanced opinion. Good point. This contest used to be great for the kids to watch. I thought the whole thing was chit. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 3 minutes ago, nauseus said: Good point. This contest used to be great for the kids to watch. I thought the whole thing was chit. When I was in school, I remember this was for my parents one of those TV highlights of the year. I never understood the fuss about it. But years ago, it was just mostly just bad music. Now it's additionally a pride parade and political signaling. Something for the LBGTQ+/- and woke and nobody else. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeBob Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Since Cameron it was not a secret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin71 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 minutes ago, nauseus said: Where's the egg? From the stance i think I could guess where his love eggs are.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Martin71 said: From the stance i think I could guess where his love eggs are.... I'm sure they have lovely eggs. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 (edited) Anyway it's a fact that Eurovision has evolved largely into a LGBT cultural event. Like it or not I like it. Others don't. Not every show needs to be heteronormative pablum. That said it's mostly been about high camp, silliness, male and female divas, highlighting different cultures as well which is not so gay. What Olly did going so sleazy was an outlier! I don't recall a Eurovision act like that before. He tried something new and it bombed. I doubt what he did will be repeated. So not to worry. Eurovision as a LGBT cultural extravaganza will continue and I predict Switzerland will be less of a cluster f year than this one. Edited May 14 by Jingthing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 14 hours ago, Jingthing said: Zero.votes from the public. Zero. Let that sink in. Objectively the song wasn't that bad. It got votes from the jury. So why the Zero? Obviously can't call Eurovision fans homophobic but was the homoerotic staging just too much? Not camp. More like soft porn? To gay? Not possible for eurovision, it is a or have become the most gay music festival/show on the planet. Just look back on the history. If even the gay audience was put off by their stage show and song, then the gay community was the ones who turned their back to it, not the straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hummin said: To gay? Not possible for eurovision, it is a or have become the most gay music festival/show on the planet. Just look back on the history. If even the gay audience was put off by their stage show and song, then the gay community was the ones who turned their back to it, not the straight. You took the title too literally. Obviously an act can't be too gay for Eurovision. But my argument is that it was too sleazy sexualized for Eurovision. Edited May 14 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 37 minutes ago, Jingthing said: You took the title too literally. Obviously an act can't be too gay for Eurovision. But my argument is that it was too sleazy sexualized for Eurovision. In my opinion as a straight, yes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 54 minutes ago, Hummin said: In my opinion as a straight, yes, It's not a gay or straight question. He got zero votes from the public, a public that is watching a premiere LGBT cultural event. I already went over this. The zero votes was not about being anti gay. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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